Thread Number: 19965
HOOVER 160 model ( UK ) instructions booklet and service manual : anyone can help ? |
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Post# 223536   3/14/2013 at 14:59 (4,052 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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Hallo everyone ! You know I go crazy for the english HOOVER 160 model and already have 2 nice models ....but I got this on Ebay.co.uk last week and would like to have some more material about this wonderful machine in oder to start a serious revamp and renovation on my maschines.
I was hoping some kind collector from UK or worldwide ( South Africa also had the same model ) could scan some Hoover 160 material - possibly from original instructions booklet or/and repair-service manual for this machine, publishing it on this forum and help me with my restoration project... I will be happy to share my renovation-progress on Vacuumland ! Thanks in advance for all the help you can give me ! Cheers from Italy, GUIDO |
Post# 223540 , Reply# 1   3/14/2013 at 15:23 (4,052 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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Post# 223557 , Reply# 2   3/14/2013 at 17:04 (4,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 223558 , Reply# 3   3/14/2013 at 17:05 (4,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 223561 , Reply# 4   3/14/2013 at 17:08 (4,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 223563 , Reply# 5   3/14/2013 at 17:09 (4,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 223564 , Reply# 6   3/14/2013 at 17:10 (4,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 223566 , Reply# 7   3/14/2013 at 17:11 (4,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 223567 , Reply# 8   3/14/2013 at 17:12 (4,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 223568 , Reply# 9   3/14/2013 at 17:13 (4,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 223570 , Reply# 10   3/14/2013 at 17:14 (4,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 223571 , Reply# 11   3/14/2013 at 17:15 (4,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 223572 , Reply# 12   3/14/2013 at 17:16 (4,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 223573 , Reply# 13   3/14/2013 at 17:16 (4,052 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 223596 , Reply# 14   3/14/2013 at 19:10 (4,052 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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VACBEAR !!! Thankyou so much for your help, once again you have been very kind to me : i only had one scan from this beautiful booklet - which i had never seen entirely - and now I can have it complete ! Thanks really ! Now I only hope to have a copy from the service manual, which for sure I will need for the internal repair.
P.s. seing the image of the HOOVER builing in PERIVALE on the booklet, I take also the occasion to post some good images I took in my recent january-trip to LONDON. I had forgotten to post them here and I think someone could be pleased to have a look ! It was a great motion for me to finally visit the place where my favourite HOOVERS were buil in the 30's and 50's |
Post# 223598 , Reply# 15   3/14/2013 at 19:14 (4,052 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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Post# 223599 , Reply# 16   3/14/2013 at 19:17 (4,052 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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Post# 223600 , Reply# 17   3/14/2013 at 19:20 (4,052 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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Post# 223610 , Reply# 18   3/14/2013 at 20:04 (4,052 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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HOOVER 262 - my latest find in LONDON !
I must be honest : I was never fascinated by the model 262 which I always found poor in look and design, if compared to its glorious "brother" model 160 or following 612 model. But I bought this anyway on EBAY while I was in LONDON in January, taking advantage of the fact that I could have collected it in person. I paid 10 pounds for this dusty machine, which looked so sad in the only image available on the auction, and only because my collection was missing that model. Well, when I met with the nice seller outside London and i saw the cleaner .... I really was amazed : what seemed to be scratches and other damages were only dust ! The cleaner was so well kept ! The bag - which i thought was a replacement - was only in the wrong side but was beautiful and all original ! There were no attachments but the cable is original, rubber bumpers are ok and the motor hood is really like new ! Only some scratches on the handle...but really a beautiful machine, different from what I had seen on internet images and forums ! It was already 6 pm when I went back to city centre but I wanted to buy food to bring home so...I brought the cleaner with me ...I had no choice ! We 2 ( the 262 and me ! ) had a beautiful London trip, crossing PICCADILLY CIRCUS, TRAFALGAR, LEICESTER SQUARE and many other landmarks and - of couse - the LONDON tube ! You have no idea how funny it was for me - pity I had no camera with me : people looking, smiling, mothers explaining to children about vacuums ...curious people asking me about the year of production, old people recalling " I remember those "... Back to the hotel,a maid looked at me with some suspect in her eyes, eheheh but... I ABSOLUTELY HAD TO TEST IT !!!!! And sure I did. A litte bit of dust arised in the room and the old thing "roared" again, with working light and all !!! And I was so happy ! So...this is how me and the HOOVER 262 finally became friends and now - back in italy - it is now one of my very very favourite machines ! |
Post# 223613 , Reply# 19   3/14/2013 at 20:13 (4,052 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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Post# 223675 , Reply# 20   3/15/2013 at 09:34 (4,051 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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You come to London and you do not contact me to see my cleaners too? And I only work a few km from the Hoover factory as well!
Oh well maybe another time. Congratulations on the 262, although there are some points to note: 1 On certain years of production the flex (cord) can react with itself, particularly on pressure point like around the hooks, so that the rubber on the outside of the flex reacts with itself amd "melts" - I can think of no better description for it. So, you will need to keep an eye on it to make sure it does not happen to yours. The inner cables are fine, its just the outside cover. 2. Sorry, I do not think that is the original bag, which should be more like that used on the 612 - the one you have is a very good match though. I did not think much of the 262 either but I have grown to like mine too. Al |
Post# 223681 , Reply# 21   3/15/2013 at 11:01 (4,051 days old) by hoover119dude (england)   |   | |
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hi guido. i really liked the story of you and 262 escapading around london. i hope you both had a good time. your collection looks great. i have a hoover 119 which is my pride and joy. i had sold it in 2006 to fund a trip to spain. i spent a few years kicking myself for selling it as i never saw another even close to the condition mine was in. just before xmas 2011 i saw one for sale on ebay which looked very familiar. i saw the seller id and almost died. the same ebayer that bought it from me was selling it. i couldnt click the buy it now button fast enough. a few days later it came back to me in the post. my aunt has named it BOOMER as like a boomerang when you throw, it comes back to you. now we are reunited i have no plans to ever sell him again. here is a pic of him with his boxes and tools. gary.
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Post# 223726 , Reply# 22   3/15/2013 at 16:40 (4,051 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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Oh thankyou both !
Al : sorry I did not contact you but I came to LONDON really "last minute" and had no plans at all ! At that moment I just wanted to escape from Italy and from everyday life to forget all the problems at my restaurant: I adore Great Britain and in LONDON i feel like at home ! As always the city gave me all the good mood and energy I needed to re-start but it would have been extraordnary to see your collection !!!!!!!!!!! but listen : I come to LONDON at least 2 times a year so....I think I will soon let you know my next visit, it' a promise, possibly before summer-season starts ( really busy here on Lake Garda ! ). As far as the 262 BAG, well I will post a better image tonight here ( as you cannot really see it well in my foto, with the HOOVER CLEANER logo and all ) : I would appreciate a second look and opinion from you, in order to be sure if this is a replacment or not. And thanks again for the HOOVER 160 instructions ! |
Post# 223728 , Reply# 23   3/15/2013 at 16:47 (4,051 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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GARY : your story is as crazy as mine !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This cleaner is in wonderful condition ! Mine is really poor....but I love all of them anway ! Listen : I have now a straight rule : whatever happens I never sell anything from my collection even when I need money !!!. I also did it in the past and was always so repented ! So now I know it and I can sell everything but nothing from my personal collection ! I prefer to give something for free to other collectors but never sell,ehhe ! |
Post# 223736 , Reply# 24   3/15/2013 at 18:18 (4,051 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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So here is a better image of my HOOVER 262 model : Al, please give a look at the bag and let me know if it might be original. The handle is also very well kept and is not perishing like many of that series usually are...anyway i have oiled all rubber parts with AREXON'S PNEUS OIL hoping the rubbers to last longer and avoid drying...hope it is a good choice !
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Post# 223781 , Reply# 25   3/16/2013 at 04:07 (4,050 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Guido
Do send me a message when you next come to London - my email address is in my profile. I am afraid the bag look slike a replacement - here is mine. The clue is that there is no mention of emptying the bag. Still, yours is a very good match and I dont think it takes from the value of the cleaner at all :) |
Post# 223785 , Reply# 26   3/16/2013 at 05:22 (4,050 days old) by hoover119dude (england)   |   | |
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hi guido, i now feel the same way about my 119. i was extremely fortunate to be able to buy it back like i did as that almost always never happens. maybe it was fate? the bag on your 262 is a replacement but a very good one though. the photo that vacbear58 sent shows the original. yours must be a replacement made for that series of models. i sometimes wonder if the hoover company figured that one day these machines would be collector items so they came up with aftermarket replacement bags instead of giving the service stations a supply of original bags when people needed them. maybe they only wanted the examples in their museums to be originals. WHO KNOWS!!! my 119 bag is original and i converted it to take paper bags to prevent wear. not many bags survived as people shook the bags like instructions said.
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Post# 223878 , Reply# 27   3/16/2013 at 17:17 (4,050 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 224035 , Reply# 39   3/17/2013 at 18:16 (4,049 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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Thanks Gary !
Thanks AL ! The instruction booklet for the HOOVER 262 is also super nice, and I had never seen it also ! I think I will try to reprint it and use a copy for display ! Well ...my HOOVER 262 bag is not the orginal ....but I love it the same: it belongs to its "personal history", let's say ! And anyway its a very old replacement which fits with colour and all so...I'm not unhappy about it, but I wanted to know that for "collecting" reasons . Now, I will wait to find the HOOVER 160 or 262 service manual which will be a precious help for some future repairs on a 160 defect machine I have ( hopefully the 160 and 262 should have the same motor and electric scheme...i hope ! ). Unfortunately in Italy HOOVER machines are quite rare to find ( for unknown cultural reasons, we seldom used carpets in our homes in Italy: the first Hoover to be seen around was the 652 series but prior models a really a rare-to-find down here ). Curiously enough, Italy always had- from 1950 onwards - an enormous request of vacuum-floor-cleaners/ scrubbers for our marble/stone/wooden/ceramic floors. It's quite unusual and an exclusive italian phenomenon ! The english made floor scrubbers were not what the italian market required so HOOVER Ltd launched a special FLOOR CLEANER with vacuum suction and bag just for the italian market. The original machine had 3 brushes instead of two, it was pink/white and quite similar to the first 652 ( you collectors for sure have already seen the model I'm talking about ) and underwent some remodeling through the 1970's but kept the same chassis for almost 30 years. Not many know that this HOOVER machines were produced in Italy- as the label confirms - even if i have not discovered by who, maybe by the same firm wich also produced the germany based VORWERK-Folletto floor cleaners ( both Hoover and Vorwerk dìd not have a real plant here in Italy : this were special re-badged machines only ). I will try to investigate this in the next days also !!! So,thanks everyone by now and thanks again AL for te beautiful images sent ! guido |
Post# 224518 , Reply# 40   3/21/2013 at 07:28 (4,045 days old) by uksausage (eastbourne east sussex UK)   |   | |
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what a machine ive been after 262 for many many years but no such luck just yet oh well there is still time congratulations on your find david x |
Post# 224609 , Reply# 41   3/21/2013 at 21:21 (4,045 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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Hi David ! Happy to hear from another UK collector ! Thanks for your kind comment, I love this 262 ! I even didn't really want one ( and I bought it for 10 pounds only on internet ) but I changed my mind when i saw it, a great machine ! I see anyway some cheap HOOVER 262 sometimes on ebay or other internet sales...sometimes complete, sometimes with some parts to repair but there are still spares around as the 262 was more popular - i suppose - then other Hoover models from the same period like 160 or 612 ( usually the rubber handle and bumper tend to perish and disintegrate but I found a spare NOS handle for my HOOVER 160 anyway! ).So I think you will soon find a wonderful HOOVER 262 too !!!!
And now here is what I got today for only 6 pounds...I bought it for spare parts for my other cleaners but...... I don't want to dismantle it anymore and I prefer to keep this old scruffy marvel just for display and exactly "as is", just some light polishing................... "FROM PERIVALE - GREENFORD - MIDLESEX" : AN EX-HOOVER 160 CLEANING ENSEMBLE...the "ensemble" is gone but the "heart" still goes strong !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Post# 224610 , Reply# 42   3/21/2013 at 21:42 (4,045 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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A QUESTION ABOUT THE HOOVER 262......
Maybe AL knows something about it : Looking at AL's 262, I was noticing that the paint of the 2 chassis look different : AL's seems the same hammer paint (not really hammer paint but anyway rough at touch, difficult to polish and almost impossible to restore ) used in the HOOVER 160 model, while mine looks translucent ....my machine does not seem to have undergone a repaint as the under of the machine has the same paint type ( the 612 also has no "rogh paint" effect ). Anyone has more info about this ? |
Post# 224684 , Reply# 43   3/22/2013 at 13:51 (4,044 days old) by uksausage (eastbourne east sussex UK)   |   | |
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thats a bargain for £6 im quite envious ive had a love affair with 262 since i was old enough to know what a vacuum is one day i will find a half decent one but untill then ill make do with what ive got enjoy the 262 would love to see more pics |
Post# 224699 , Reply# 44   3/22/2013 at 16:45 (4,044 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Guido
It is possible that the two are different as both the 160 and the 262 were both produced either side of WW2 so it could be perfectly possible that they used different paints. Also, if yours should be a late model it is possible that they adopted the finish of the 612 on the last model 262s as the back is similar to that used on the 612 |
Post# 225875 , Reply# 45   3/31/2013 at 22:48 (4,035 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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Here I'm back for what probably is going to be the end of this thread ...unfortunately no service manual for my 262 and 160 cleaners, but I got already lots of material from AL for the ìnstruction manual so I am very happy already !
I wanted to share my satifaction for a good work i have done on my latest HOOVER 160 ( see image at the top of this page ! so it was when it arrived home ), which- after hours of careful polishing ( cotton discs de-make-up type and a common non aggressive de-greaser did the hard work and warm water and tooth brush removed the rest of the dirt !! ) has been renovated to very satisfying conditions. The motor runs smoothly, the brushes are perfect and the beating bar turns freely; just needed a new light for the "dirtfinder" ( unfortunately I found the 15 watts light bulb instead of 25watts but they are so difficult to find here ). The bakelite hood was lightly polished with MIRAGE paste to cancel most of scratches then re-washed and finally made "glittering" with 2 drops of sewing machine mineral oil. As soon as I can get DURAGLIT-BRASSO again, I think I will re-do it better ...unfortnately BRASSO is now illegal in ITALY because inflammable ( idiots ) so I have now ordered it on ebay... The rubber bumper has been washed with warm water and soap and then oiled with Arexon's OIL for PNEUS , its sticky but very good for old rubbers ...I will remove the excess in few days, just let the dry rubber "drink" the necessary quantity to avoid further drying. Finally: the aluminium band with the HOOVER logo was all smashed and bent so I brought it to a car repair who did it for free with a special hammer, in few minutes. COMMENTS AND SUGESTIONS ALWAYS WELCOME !!!!! Wish I had posted the image before...but unforunately I lost my camera AT HOME ( ! ) for alst 1 week so ....here it is the NEW Hoover 160 : |
Post# 225876 , Reply# 46   3/31/2013 at 22:55 (4,035 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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Post# 225894 , Reply# 48   4/1/2013 at 04:43 (4,034 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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Post# 226313 , Reply# 49   4/3/2013 at 16:27 (4,032 days old) by guido (ITALY)   |   | |
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VINTAGEREPAIRER, that's true, but consider - as you notice - that in those years not all houses had earthed socks. In Italy it was even worse : in the 1970's only th new houses had earthed plugs and tried to adopt a terrible new sistem called "MAGIC" which avoided children to be fried with their tiny little fingers inhe electric plugs...it was a disaster and after few years the new system was abadoned. But I collect vintage appliances and I can grant you that most of italian producers ( with few exeptions like REM floor cleaners from Milano or QUICK MILL mixers and grinders in MONZA )did not produce earthed products till the late 1970's ( !!!! ) as all old houses in Italy had not the system yet ! Until 1960 we had 160 volts in many italian regions and many appliaces could be chosen from catalgues choosing 110-125-160-220 volts or otherwise had universal voltage ( some electric fans, shavers, etc ) or had a voltage selector ( reel recorders, turntables, etc ).In 1960 they went to 220 volts but no earthed sockets until 1984 when it was made compulsory for a CEE law: many producers closed down or canceled many products from their catalogue as a production change was not convenient : quick-batter mixers were for example discontinued because of the iron lever-switches and other dangerous features...
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