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"Uh, mom, we need a new vacuum cleaner"
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Post# 220193   2/21/2013 at 19:34 (4,075 days old) by gmerkt (Edmonds WA)        

"Because this one sucks. Er, uh, I mean, it doesn't suck anymore."

I got this lovely lavender Hoover Windtunnel bagged SP a while back and it's been waiting for work. The definition of lovely being it came with all of its attachments including both wand sections (worth $4.29 each if you cannot scrounge used ones and have to buy replacements).

It was dirty enough that it needed disassembly for cleaning. When I took the dust compartment cover off, I noticed the bag was packed tight like a sack of Portland cement. When I pulled it off, here is what I found.


Post# 220194 , Reply# 1   2/21/2013 at 19:37 (4,075 days old) by gmerkt (Edmonds WA)        

It was filled right up to and into the bag dock but it didn't yet extend into the hose.

Since aside from being dirty there isn't anything else wrong with this machine, I assume it was discarded due to the bag being full. In another thread here, we were discussing the "why" of $42 specials at Walmart. Because of our hyper-disposable society, this is the why.

By the way, that isn't dog hair. I believe it's cut human hair.


Post# 220195 , Reply# 2   2/21/2013 at 19:38 (4,075 days old) by gmerkt (Edmonds WA)        
Oh, I forgot...

This machine was dated 2006.

Post# 220199 , Reply# 3   2/21/2013 at 19:58 (4,075 days old) by GM1982 ()        

This is the result of someone not changing the bag and/or filters.... poor maintenance

Post# 220200 , Reply# 4   2/21/2013 at 19:59 (4,075 days old) by goadie12 ()        

Wow that's amazing I just don't understand why people don't take care of their vacuum cleaners. If people would take a little time to maintain their machines they would save an enormous amount of money just my two cents thanks. Zach

Post# 220224 , Reply# 5   2/21/2013 at 22:24 (4,075 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut)        
That's a shame

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and pretty gross to boot.

You'd think changing a bag was brain surgery.


Post# 220231 , Reply# 6   2/21/2013 at 23:26 (4,075 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

This reminds me of the TriStar EXL that I found on the curb; the bag compartment was full of dirt & hair; & did NOT have either the paper or cloth bags in the vacuum.  The dirt was even backed up inside the hose, wands & PN; & the PN & MiniStar brush rollers were worn down to nothing!Surprised

 

Why would ANYONE want to mis-treat even high-end brand vacuums?  This happened to be a surprise; but at least I got the newer TriStar for free.Tongue out


Post# 220232 , Reply# 7   2/21/2013 at 23:28 (4,075 days old) by ned_flanders ()        

Looks like a lot of material there for that artist who makes houses out of vacuum bag debris...

Post# 220381 , Reply# 8   2/22/2013 at 22:50 (4,074 days old) by lunchboxsean ()        


I've seen Mieles do that, I've seen Kirbys do that, and I've seen Orecks do that. That is a testament to the Hoover right there.

Post# 220401 , Reply# 9   2/23/2013 at 04:15 (4,073 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Yea, that's human hair. Someone must've used one of those vacuum hose haircutters with it or vacuumed up a hair salon with it. Sad that someone is that lazy (or ignorant) that they don't bother changing a bag. I've always loved changing filters and bags. It let's me feel good to throw dirt away.

Post# 220410 , Reply# 10   2/23/2013 at 06:05 (4,073 days old) by GM1982 ()        

Unfortunately, its become a lazy ignorant society in this country...can you image now, how many people probably don't think to change their home air filters, refrigerator water cartridges, or even the oil in their car when its due. :-0

Post# 220415 , Reply# 11   2/23/2013 at 07:21 (4,073 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )        

If it was a hair salon it could have been a younger person using the vacuum. The younger generation is a bagless generation and don't know a whole bunch or maybe nothing at all about a bagged vacuum. They may have thought that you vacuum and the hair magically disappears never to return.

Post# 220417 , Reply# 12   2/23/2013 at 07:55 (4,073 days old) by GM1982 ()        

If you graduate high school then I think one can figure out pretty easily that its not a bagless vacuum. I am real estate agent, and I have been in homes where I have seen a bagless vacuum in the homeowners laundry room filled to the brim with dirt...guess they magically think the dirt will disintegrate or empty itself.

A bagged vacuum is better, but I guess with the fast paced oh so busy society, a bagless is more convenient, especially when you run out of bags and don't have the time to get off your lazy ass and order a new bags. In my experience, since I am in people's homes often, I tend so see more affluent households take care of their appliances, vacuums, flooring, landscaping, etc. better.


Post# 220532 , Reply# 13   2/23/2013 at 21:24 (4,073 days old) by vacuumman206 ()        
not changing the bag

I know a few people that the bag got so full the cover blew off and the bag exploded from being so packed (obviously not bypass vacs). I saw a concept one once the bag was so full it looked like the machine was on all the time!! My dad's old bissell lift away got so full one time the dirt packed the bag and filled about 1/2 of the hose and there was a clog in the nozzle hose due to the continued loss of suction. I don't bother maintaining that vac for him and his wife, it's there own fault if they are too dumb to change the bag and belt every once in a while even after my years of attention to the up-keeping of their vacuums.

Post# 220587 , Reply# 14   2/24/2013 at 07:06 (4,072 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

A lot of it is due to how you are raised. If you were raised to care for your possessions, as I was, you tend to do the same. Growing up my Mom had an Electrolux Model R in bronze. She bought it in the late '60's. It lasted her the better part of 20 years of regular use. She ruined it accidentally. When I was little our hot water heater leaked and soaked half our flooring. We didn't know it and she began vacuuming one of the saturated carpets. She sucked a great deal of water into it and fried it. The entire time she owned it she emptied it's cloth bag nearly every time she used it and periodically she would take it out and wash it. She was good to it. After it was thrown away, she bought a Hoover Spirit straight suction which burnt up in about 5 years or less. She never got one to last until she got her Kirby in 1999. She raised me to care for stuff you buy with your hard earned money and I am grateful!

Post# 220600 , Reply# 15   2/24/2013 at 08:49 (4,072 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

i once got an old Panasonic upright, and the bag had got packed full, and had gone up the hose, complately filled the hose, gone into the cleaner head right up until it reached the opening at the brushroll. how could someone let it get so full??? no wonder they thought it was broken! they cut the plug off and put it in the shed and got a dyson DC01. nearly 20 years later i noticed they had 2 vacs in their shed. one was the old panasonic and the other was the Dyson which had replaced it. turns out the dyson had died 5 years ago and had been in the shed since the. i got the dyson working again but the panasonic was completely siezed up!

Post# 220603 , Reply# 16   2/24/2013 at 09:31 (4,072 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Halfway down this archived thread about a rather spectacular 2008 curbside junk weekend haul is the Bagectomy I had to perform on a Kirby G4 tossed, literally, to the curb because "Mom says it doesn't work anymore".

So stuffed with dirt that the inner bag had burst, filling the outer cloth bag and windways as Mom kept vacuuming as though there was some magical cosmic debris vaporizing masticator inside.

The Copper Cord Bandits had already made their rounds but I stuffed the car with some real treasures that day.

I knew it was at least worth bringing home for parts at least...

 

Dave



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Post# 220626 , Reply# 17   2/24/2013 at 12:05 (4,072 days old) by jodan3399 (Brownsville, PA)        

I see alot of those.

Un-clog them and they're ready to go again...even after what looks like years of abuse.

Best one was the "bagless" vac that someone had at a bar, they couldn't understand why it kept blowing dust out everywhere but used it like that for months until they brought it to me.

Had they put a bag in it they might have noticed a difference...it wasn't bagless.



Post# 220628 , Reply# 18   2/24/2013 at 12:11 (4,072 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        
LOL

Too funny!

Post# 220949 , Reply# 19   2/26/2013 at 23:38 (4,070 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)        

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OMG, Dave! I had forgotten about that Kirby surgery until I saw this thread again.

 

Human beings never cease to amaze me. You are right - they think the dirt gets vaporized into space somewhere!


Post# 221041 , Reply# 20   2/27/2013 at 17:49 (4,069 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)        
Average Joe vac user empties his machine

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See linked video...hmm, don't know what to make of this.

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Post# 221088 , Reply# 21   2/28/2013 at 08:41 (4,068 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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Here's a link that works better.

I must say he reminds me of a character from the Muppets! I love his voice and silly antics. Although he dumped the vacuum in the bin, he did take it out again and looks like he's going to use that poor Powerforce all over again - however, its a good testament for that vacuum!

"Any old Muppet can shorten a vacuum cleaner's life, but a Bissell Powerforce lasts!"


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Post# 221114 , Reply# 22   2/28/2013 at 11:51 (4,068 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Yes that bissel power force did the worst job I've ever seen !

Post# 221176 , Reply# 23   2/28/2013 at 17:47 (4,068 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

Maybe this user needs a bagless machine. At least they could tell when it needs emptied.

Post# 222654 , Reply# 24   3/9/2013 at 00:36 (4,059 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Anyone who owns Flowbee hair clippers should use either a Lux automatic model with the Automatic Control setting to #3; or a Compact/TriStar. That way, folks would know when it's time to change the bag.

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Post# 222798 , Reply# 25   3/9/2013 at 17:51 (4,059 days old) by myles_v (Fredericksburg, VA)        

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At my mom's house I typically use the central vacuum for most of the house and my mom uses my Hoover T Series in the basement (where her room is). My mom knows how to take care of vacuum cleaners, so I was surprised when I went down there and found the container completely filled into the little plastic tube going to the hose. I asked her about it, and found out that her fiance (they broke up recently, so he's no longer her fiance) had vacuumed a few times, and apparently he's too lazy to take it to the trash can and push the button on the back of it. So I had to take it and clean it all out, while doing so I found a clog in the hose that was started by bits of styrofoam.

I have a hard time believing that so many people don't take care of their vacuum cleaners, and I realize that it's more than just vacuums. People don't check their A/C filters, car oil, security alarms, or smoke alarms. Even my grandma just recently learned that vacuum belts have to be replaced more often than when they break.


Post# 223942 , Reply# 26   3/17/2013 at 05:17 (4,051 days old) by hoover119dude (england)        

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i am also amazed how stupid people can be when it comes to changing bags and filters. my aunt found a green henery at the tip about 10 years ago. the only thing wrong was the bag was so full it was rock hard. guess that is why he wound up there. we took it home and i changed the bag and cleaned him up a bit and he worked perfectly. in fact so good he is still going strong to this day. he lives under her stairs and comes out for the weekly clean. i like his cheeky smile and so does my aunt. i doubt she will ever part with him. he now gets a clean bag once a month weather he needs it or not. his new lease on life was well deserved as his previous owners were to stupid to realise bags do need changing once in a while.

Post# 223986 , Reply# 27   3/17/2013 at 13:19 (4,051 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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You mean a green Numatic Henry? I was wondering if a "Henerey" was a vintage brand I had never heard of before!

 

Sadly a lot of owners throw out vacuums if they have been used to clean up after a dog and if the machine itself is beginning to look and feel old, also determined by its weight. I was amazed recently when a pal of mine had an old Miele S500 for many years now and nearly turfed it away because it stank of her dogs. She phoned me first saying that it just stank and she was going to buy a new Miele S2110 to replace it and would I want a free vacuum to work on?

 

The active air filter was intact but it badly needed replacing and the honk came from the suction hose and tubes. I showed her what to do though when it came to washing them out (though the pipes just got wet wipes pushed up and down soaked in bicarb soda) and in no time at all, the old and battered Miele was put back into service with a new filter. She also likes the older Miele style as the tools are on board and not the plastic holder that she was less impressed with on the S2. The old 500 model is desperately heavier than the much ligher S2 but I think she was prepared to keep using the old Miele until it dies. Now that's customer loyalty for you as well as the feeling that she saved herself £100 on a newer model.


Post# 225438 , Reply# 28   3/28/2013 at 14:42 (4,040 days old) by StrongEnough78 (Clovis California)        

My Grandma had a bad habit of burning up vacuum cleaners. Her old Kenmore Canister she had since I think the early 70's finally died in the mid or late 90's. I think I might know why too. Years before that when I was a kid I spent the weekend with her and was helping her clean. She turned on the vacuum and noticed it wasn't picking anything up. She opened the canister and stated that she just changed the bag. She pushed the reset button on the power head thinking it was tripped. She then turned it on with the lid opened when I noticed something out of the corner of my eye. The paper disk filter had about a half inch layer of lint and hair on it. When she would turn on the vacuum the whole thing sucked down onto the motor which put a huge strain on it. I pointed that out to her so she took the filter off and removed as much of the mess as she could since she didn't have any replacements on hand. She was good about keeping the bags changed, but always seemed to over look the filter itself. Needless to say she put it back together and it worked much better. A few years later it finally burned out, and I'm guessing she may have forgot about that filter again. She replaced it with a Fantom Fury, this was back during their hayday. She loved it, but it didn't last long either from what my Dad told me. I'm thinking the filter again lol. She now has a Kenmore Progressive canister which is actually a very nice machine. She takes good care of this one.


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