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Post# 217243   2/2/2013 at 13:30 (4,098 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

I've had this sat in my mums loft for the past 7 years. Not really ever done anything with it, but bought a belt for it so bought it home today.

Post# 217245 , Reply# 1   2/2/2013 at 13:31 (4,098 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

New belt

Post# 217247 , Reply# 2   2/2/2013 at 13:32 (4,098 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Old vs new

Post# 217249 , Reply# 3   2/2/2013 at 13:33 (4,098 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

You don't get detail like this anymore

Post# 217250 , Reply# 4   2/2/2013 at 13:34 (4,098 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

More detail

Post# 217251 , Reply# 5   2/2/2013 at 13:35 (4,098 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Much better now, grooms like a goodun

Post# 217252 , Reply# 6   2/2/2013 at 13:36 (4,098 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

The two beiges together

Post# 217254 , Reply# 7   2/2/2013 at 13:42 (4,098 days old) by jakesvacs ()        

Must have been nice to dig that out of the loft after that time. Its in really good condition and the fabric bag could be passed off as a modern!


Post# 217256 , Reply# 8   2/2/2013 at 13:50 (4,098 days old) by squarehandle ()        
Nice UK convertible

 Nice Hoover, Mate!

Post# 217257 , Reply# 9   2/2/2013 at 14:17 (4,098 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Cheers guys. Could probably do with a strip down but its not too bad. Its a vinyl bag, not a cloth one.

Also, is there any risk with running it at the higher tool speed rather than the normal 400w speed?

Post# 217273 , Reply# 10   2/2/2013 at 16:13 (4,098 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Sam

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I presume you know that this is an American manufactured vacuum, but sold in UK for a short while around 1973/74. Whilst Externally similar to the UK Rangers there are differences, mainly the handle mounted switch and of course the cable clips are on the left rather than the right. The bag is original. It looks like a good example and is worth looking after as these are reasonably rare

Post# 217277 , Reply# 11   2/2/2013 at 16:37 (4,098 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Yep its american made. I presume it came across the water with the orange celebrities and Connie's?

I've never seen one before, its a keeper. Waiting for a set of tools to surface for it.

Post# 217303 , Reply# 12   2/2/2013 at 18:48 (4,097 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Accompanying models

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It was sold alongside the orange Connie 858, but not strictly the Celebrity air ride, which although manufactured in the USA was introduced somewhat later in 1975, and carried on until 1981 or 82. There was another version of the celebrity sold here too, one with wheels, but that was short lived here. None of the later versions of celebrity were sold here, excepting the air ride

Al

Post# 217304 , Reply# 13   2/2/2013 at 18:51 (4,097 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Tools

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Surprisingly enough they were also sold with American tools as well, much the same as UK ones, but without the stretch hose but with telescopic wand. They came complete with a plastic carry bag, not unlike that supplied with the later version 507 & 429

Al

Post# 217305 , Reply# 14   2/2/2013 at 19:00 (4,097 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

As has been mentioned on this site before, the USA versions of the Constellation and Senior were rumored to have been sent over to supplement stocks of UK models in the event of a strike at one of the UK's Hoover plants. I was told that a strike never took place and that stocks were later sold off, which accounts for why the cleaners were built early in the 1970's but not sold until later on. Vacbear I am sure it was yourself who offered evidence that there had been a gap of around 18 months to 2 years in between production and sales of these cleaners. This backed up what I had been told a good deal of years ago. Although I was very much alive during this era, I had no association with vacuum cleaners until I bought my shop in 1979, so I cannot tell you first hand.

The Celebrity cleaners were part of a campaign which Hoover ran, in which they attempted to bamboozle consumers with all manner of choice. As well as a vast range of models to select from, a good deal of cleaners also came in a choice of colour too. The Air-ride was one such example of this, as were several models in the Freedom range. In a sense, one could not be blamed for not buying a Hoover product at all, seeing how the competitors made buying a cleaner so much easier. For Hoover, less was never more.

Post# 217404 , Reply# 15   2/3/2013 at 16:11 (4,097 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Age & models

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Just a quick followup on what vintagerepairer has said above. From memory the 4003 were manufactured around 1973/74 but the connie 858 wre manufactured around 1970 or so. Both were manufactured in North Canton. It may surprise some that machines with UK voltage were manufactured there, but parts were also shipped out to Australia and New Zealand from North Canton to be assembled there, if memory serves Fisher & paykal were part of this operation.

What VP says about models is also very true, although perhaps a little after the time of this cleaner. From the mid 1970s the "regular line" comprised:

DAM/Convertable
DAM/Convertable powerdrive (very short lived)
Senior Ranger
Junior Softbag
Junior Hardbag
Starlight Junior/Junior De Luxe (completely different from the "traditional" Junior)
along with a multitude of "exclusives" in terms of old model Junior & Senior along with varities of current models (mostly adding headlight and alternative colours).

In cannisters it was almost worse with
Five models in the sensotronic range (US Electronic 1000)
A similar number in the Compact (US Sprint) range, with considerable overlap with Sensotronic
Basic (750) and TOL Models from the old Freedom range (again overlapping with Sensotronic & Compact)
Both Connie and Celebrity Air Ride
The old 427 was widely available as an exclusive along with various exclusives of the compact range.

Its little wonder customers coudl be confused with such a variety and all at similar or overlapping prices too.

Al

Post# 217407 , Reply# 16   2/3/2013 at 16:46 (4,097 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Vacbear, from what I know of the Hoover in the 1970s, there were endless models in the freedom ranges, although I have to say I only every really saw the basic models in red, orange/cream, and green/cream, with electronic in orange or cream. But there were also two styles of electronic models, and variations in lilac too.

I know that as the 1970's drew to a close the Freedom cleaners were streamlined into red and cream, but as you've said there was also the constellation, two celebrity models, plus the standard basic cylinder (was it 419?). Hoover dropped the red Freedom cleaner around 1984 to replace it with the Powerglide, a cleaner which sported the same dustbag and identical motor. All that was different was the footprint of the cleaner as it was not quite so long in shape. But quite why this was done or where the cleaner fitted in along the Compact models, I just do not know. One thing which Hoover could be relied upon was providing plenty of choice, because as you also say, there were many exclusive models available too, as well as older lines still in stock (even possibly in production) after the replacement model had been launched.

Post# 217409 , Reply# 17   2/3/2013 at 16:52 (4,097 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
And if you thought it was bad here .....

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take a walk into the archive circa 2006, courtsey Tommy Milan.

Benny, the basic model was the 427 - successor to the 417. It did look a bit like the 419/429 (harlequin) as it utilised the same handle and similar front latching system, but it was actually physically shorter (different back end) and a painted body.

A good few years back I even saw one of these on Ebay in France which had the ring twist hose and wands - never saw that here, but it shows just how long they went on for

Al

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Post# 217412 , Reply# 18   2/3/2013 at 17:05 (4,097 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Vacbear did you see what I saw? A ranger-style senior (an exclusive to our Co-Op stores I believe) is pictured next to the much later style, the sort which went on to become Powerplus. There were many years difference between these style. As was there between the U1012 Junior and the U1104 which replaced the U1036. It is amazing how many models Hoover kept building long after the model had been replaced.

Also did you see both styles of Freedom electronic? The orange model is of a very old design, just like the standard 750 above it, but retaining the foot pedals next to the rear wheels.

Post# 217414 , Reply# 19   2/3/2013 at 17:24 (4,097 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Freedom

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I had forgotten about that, but you are quite right, it is the earlier style. By the way the Freedom 1000 (not the basic model) actually goes up to 1986 in the UK.

Whilst the Co Op version was exclusive here it was regular line in Italy. By the way, I am sure you will recall a hardbag exclusive version of the U1012, although the box was somewhat different to the design of the 1036 and following hard bag versions

Post# 217433 , Reply# 20   2/3/2013 at 19:15 (4,096 days old) by kirby505 (Arizona)        
very nice hoover

 Great vacuum hope you enjoy it.

Post# 217485 , Reply# 21   2/4/2013 at 03:26 (4,096 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Remember the hardbag version of the U1012 very well, though I must suggest it was only the front cover of the dust-bag which was different from the U1036 style. But what my own memory tells me is that in the UK this style of cleaner was brought in to replace the Junior Deluxe (Starlight style) of cleaner, which was clearly still on sale in Italy.

The range in this cataloge is clearly baffling; of the uprights there is little to chose between the U1012 Junior & U1104, and also the U4058 senior & U4064/ 46 other than the design difference, which to the average user wouldn't be much of an issue.

Post# 217584 , Reply# 22   2/4/2013 at 16:13 (4,096 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Kirby - will do! Need to find some deep pile carpet now, imagine that will be back at mums!

Very interesting to know the history, thanks all!


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