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Simplicity Vacs any good?
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Post# 216506   1/28/2013 at 19:15 (4,104 days old) by heritageIIhd ()        

Wife and I are considering the purchase of a new vacuum. We like the Simplicity models for their US-made status as well as the fact that they seem very nice.

Long-time Kirby owner but not a fan of the hand-me-down G-4 we got to replace our Heritage II, which went back to mom and dad because being older they wanted a lighter one and wanted to have it refurbed.

Are the Simplicity models any good? Probably not going to buy another Kirby or anything really expensive. $600-700 budget, MAX.

Thanks!


Post# 216507 , Reply# 1   1/28/2013 at 19:22 (4,104 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

You don't call $700 expensive?? Wish I had your finances, lol. In any case, yes, Simplicity vacs are good ones. I'd recommend them. Riccar products are known to be high quality far exceeding mass market equipment. Should be a workhorse for years.

Post# 216508 , Reply# 2   1/28/2013 at 19:42 (4,104 days old) by heritageIIhd ()        

LOL, certainly not rich here. I mean, Kirbys I have seen run @ $1700.

We're both tired of buying "cheap" $100-200 vacs that crap out or lose suction within a year or two and cannot be repaired.

Our hope is that we spend more and cry now rather than spend less and cry later.

A $649 Simplicity with a 6-year warranty beats $125 a year spent on crappy junk at Target/Wal-Mart/wherever.


Post# 216512 , Reply# 3   1/28/2013 at 20:12 (4,104 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

Yea, you think like me. I have a Kirby too. Simplicity is actually the mid range models from Tacony, which makes Riccar as it's top of the line. They are a high end company so the Riccar's will exceed $1,000. I believe you will be well pleased. They are rugged machines with good tools and a quiet high powered motors coupled with decent filtration. Just about anybody here would recommend buying it!

Post# 216515 , Reply# 4   1/28/2013 at 20:26 (4,104 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )        

@electromatik, the TOL Simplicity Gusto and the TOL Riccar Immaculate have the exact same specs and even the same price. So in what way is the Simplicity the mid-range and the Riccar the high end? Heck even the Moxie lines up with the Impeccable model. Just curious. Thanks.

Post# 216516 , Reply# 5   1/28/2013 at 20:38 (4,104 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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I've had experience with numerous Tacony vacs(Riccar, Simplicty) and they are pretty good machines. People often compare them to traditional Panasonic uprights, but even the high-end Panasonics don't really match the build quality of Tacony.

I own both the Riccar Brilliance(Simplicity Synchrony) and a Riccar 8600s series(Simplicity 7 series) I got both at extremely low prices compared to the MRSP so I do not feel compelled to like these machines because of their high cost. The Brilliance is no better than an $80 Eureka 1934a. It grooms the carpet a bit better, but cleans about the same as a good Eureka, which says a lot if you've ever used one. People might disagree with me, but from personal experience they don't blow me away like some YouTube videos suggest. They are also a pain to service. The 8600 feels much lighter and is excellent at removing grit. Repairs are a snap and bags are cheap. My model, I think from the mid-90s, is pretty quiet. However, some of the older models use flimsy plastic. You can really tell when you open the bag door and in the handle grip. I've never seen the plastic break or crack, but it's not amazing. But when you buy one new, and take care of it, it should not be any issue.

I would look at the 7 series. I would not recommend Tacony's tandem-air machines at their retail price. Just recently Tacony set up a web-page to buy their machines without a dealer, so check out their prices and see what you think. You might want see one in person before you order, just to make sure. Choose wisely.


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Post# 216517 , Reply# 6   1/28/2013 at 20:43 (4,104 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Simplicity and Riccar

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are identical in price they make both so if one dealer sells Riccar another close by can sell Simplicity . Prices are identicaland they are the same just different small changes .

Either are a perfect fit and will outlast store bought brands .


Post# 216518 , Reply# 7   1/28/2013 at 20:48 (4,104 days old) by heritageIIhd ()        

I was quoted the Synergy for $649 at local dealer and one of the aluminum-handled models lower than it for $399. At the very least we need the capability of the floor selector switch which starts in the $399 models -- our house is about 60/40 hardwood/vinyl to carpet.

I will check out the 7 series as well.

Wife is interested in Dyson but I feel like they are just expensive unrepairable store-brand vacs. Any thoughts?


Post# 216520 , Reply# 8   1/28/2013 at 20:54 (4,104 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)        

@cue I thought the Simplicity was the mid range priced with fewer "features" and the Riccar's were the top line. That's not the case so he can disregard that comment. I did tell him to buy it.

Post# 216526 , Reply# 9   1/28/2013 at 21:31 (4,104 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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Stay away from store bought brands, Dyson included. The sooner you move away from cheapo machines the better. A Simplicity will give you many years of good service.

Post# 216528 , Reply# 10   1/28/2013 at 21:40 (4,104 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

I recommend all Tacony products. Riccar is identical to Simplicity.


Post# 216532 , Reply# 11   1/28/2013 at 21:56 (4,104 days old) by mieles7 (TX)        

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I have the Riccar version of the Simplicity 7 series (model 8900) and it's one of the better vacuums in my collection. The only problem I have with my vacuum is that there is no hose, but the Synergy/Radiance and TOL 7 series/8900 should have one.

Post# 216535 , Reply# 12   1/28/2013 at 22:16 (4,104 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Here are some Riccar products:
www.riccar.com/products/canisters...
www.riccar.com/products/canisters...
www.riccar.com/products/uprights/...
www.riccar.com/products/uprights/...
www.riccar.com/products/uprights/...
www.riccar.com/products/uprights/...
www.riccar.com/products/8-pound/Q...
www.riccar.com/products/specialty...
Here are some Simplicity products:
www.simplicityvac.com/products/ca...
www.simplicityvac.com/products/ca...
www.simplicityvac.com/products/up...
www.simplicityvac.com/products/up...
www.simplicityvac.com/products/up...
www.simplicityvac.com/products/up...
www.simplicityvac.com/products/up...
www.simplicityvac.com/products/ot...
I hope this helps.


Post# 216539 , Reply# 13   1/28/2013 at 22:32 (4,104 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)        

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Here are some youtube videos comparing performance of a few product lines of Simplicity and Riccar to Dysons and some others. I will let the videos do the talking for the cleaning performance.

















This is a very small sample, there are many more out there on youtube found by searching Riccar and Simplicity. Overall you're getting a powerful machine that will last many years. They offer well built, powerful, quiet, high filtration machines that are made in their plant in St. Louis, Missouri.

Here is a picture of my Riccar 1700 canister that I'm very impressed with.


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Post# 216555 , Reply# 14   1/28/2013 at 23:46 (4,104 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

If Riccar/Simplicity is too rich for your blood, I recommend Sanitaire/Eureka/Hoover.
Here are some Hoovers:
hoover.com/products/details/s3670...
hoover.com/products/details/u6485...
hoover.com/products/details/u5491...
hoover.com/products/details/u5140...
Here are some Eurekas:
www.eureka.com/en-US/Vacuums/Cani...
www.eureka.com/en-US/Vacuums/Upri...
www.eureka.com/en-US/Vacuums/Upri...
www.eureka.com/en-US/Vacuums/Upri...


Post# 216556 , Reply# 15   1/28/2013 at 23:51 (4,104 days old) by KirbyUltimateG (Troy Ohio 45373 USA)        

Here are some Sanitaires:
www.sanitairevac.com/commercial/p...
www.sanitairevac.com/commercial/p...
www.sanitairevac.com/professional...
www.grainger.com/Grainger/SANITAI...


Post# 216588 , Reply# 16   1/29/2013 at 07:51 (4,103 days old) by sarasvacshack ()        
Miele Upright

As long as you are doing research, check out the Miele uprights. They are built well, have the Miele 1200 watt motor, and have the twist feature that makes them very manueverable, and they are sealed. Both the AutoEco and the Swing are full featured and within your price range.

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Post# 216597 , Reply# 17   1/29/2013 at 09:27 (4,103 days old) by GM1982 ()        

I like the Simplicity mid and upper line canisters...but in the uprights, I think Miele is much better. Its quieter, has variable speed control, metal base plate, swivel neck, extra long hose without having to turn a switch to floor tools position. More convenient and for $300-400 less. I think you can find the Miele S7 Salsa model in red for $599 with LED headlight. The Simplicity uprights are like $600-1,000... vacuum stores in my area seem to push the Miele's over Simplicity, why?, perhaps because what I just mentioned.

Post# 216702 , Reply# 18   1/29/2013 at 20:54 (4,103 days old) by swiveltop (Galveston, TX)        

HeritageIIHD, A New Synergy for 649.00, That is quite a bargain, Is it used? These retail $1139.00 for the X-9 to $1529.00 for the G-9, These have sold used on ebay for $500.00, The Synchrony models,also tandem motor machines start at 769.00 for the deluxe and up to $969.00 for the premium model, I have a Synergy X-9 and I am very pleased, It has metal in all the needed places and is a very high quality vacuum. I've had other models from the Riccar,Simplicity lineup and they have all been good.

Post# 216798 , Reply# 19   1/30/2013 at 08:37 (4,102 days old) by heritageiihd ()        

Perhaps she quoted me the wrong price, but I have a copy of a card with a photo/specs of the dark blue Synergy model, $1139 list price, with $649.00 written on it by the sales person at the store. Supposed to be new, not refurbished or anything. I guess it would be the X-9 because the price on my card matches what you have said up there. The little line card is at home or I'd check it and see.

Post# 219929 , Reply# 20   2/20/2013 at 11:52 (4,081 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)        

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Considering the Simplicity Series 7 & it's Riccar counterpart solely (not any other Tacony models), both of these vacuums are direct copies of the standard commercial Panasonic...you can just get the Panasonic at Wal-Mart & save crazy $$. Tacony builds extra strength (metal bottom plate, metal brush roll etc.) into their vacs & so does Panasonic on it's commercial vacs. If you don't need above floor cleaning you can get one of these for less $135 before tax...if you do the price is about $50 higher, (see link).
Or you can opt for Panasonic's Platinum Plus line versions of the vac (some color Hepa, pet option etc.) for about $350, still half the cost of the Tacony.
But If you want it built in America by all mean go for the Tacony.


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