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Advice, looking for the BEST canister (Unhappy w/Miele) |
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Post# 215560   1/24/2013 at 01:54 (4,081 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut)   |   | |
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This is my story...I HATE my Miele Capricorn (sorry guys but I do) and here's why.
Miele is so not worth the cost they demand. Case in point Miele Capricorn Vacuum (top of the line) I payed around $1400.00 (added turbo brush, bigger power nozzle, extra bags & filter). I'm SO disappointed in Miele (I don't think they know what Americans want or need on their appliances). Cord too short. Hose too short. On board attachments are too tiny. The upholstery tool doesn't use horse hair (a felt material is used) which came unglued and almost got sucked into the vacuum, had to super glue it back on. Dusting brush is ridiculously too small, and the bristles collapse in on themselves and get sucked into the hole. You can't park the SEB-236 (power nozzle) on the vacuum. Wheels on the SEB-236 (power nozzle) are too small and sink into my thick carpeting. No matter what setting you use for carpet height, the SEB-236 is hard to push on thick carpet. The wheels on the vacuum itself are too little to prop it off thick carpeting. The beater bar doesn't even pull the power head along, you really have to apply force. The plastic material used for the hose is too springy and bumps into things when you vacuum like walls, TV etc. One of the c-clips that hold the wheels on the SEB-236 came off on first use. Mini turbo brush is air powered, not powered by it's own motor, not very effective and stops very easily. Sorry but my still working Kenmore Progressive canister has way more features and longer cord/hose and larger attachments. I'll never buy a Miele anything again. So...what I've read lurking here is even the Aerus Lux Guardian Platinum Canister has some short comings that are a deal breaker (no handle switch, no on board tools, no telescopic wand...etc). I'm thinking maybe the Riccar Immaculate Premier might make me happy. I want a big canister, with big on board tools big dust bag, a long cord AND hose. Great suction for floors and carpeting, uses real horse hair on attachments. The only thing is that the power nozzle on the Immaculate Premier is not the Chevron type roller brush. Something like my Kenmore Progressive but BETTER (the new Progressive's are NOT better). Please people, I need the truth. Video's on line persuaded me to get the Miele because they didn't show me all the short comings of the Capricorn. I don't mind spending good money up front for an excellent machine but I don't want to give up TOL features or spend a ton of money on bags and filters. I'd love to get feed back on what everyone thinks is the ultimate full sized full featured canister vacuum and I thank you in advance. |
Post# 215570 , Reply# 2   1/24/2013 at 03:37 (4,081 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 215585 , Reply# 6   1/24/2013 at 07:39 (4,081 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)   |   | |
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GeorgeCT,
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Post# 215587 , Reply# 7   1/24/2013 at 07:50 (4,081 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I would recommend the red Panasonic CG902 - it's basically a clone of the original Kenmore Progressive and has a large bag, full-size on-board tools and a nice long 24 foot cord. The hose and wands are standard diameter so you can buy any universal tools and they will fit. It's a recommended vac in recent Consumer Reports testing as it cleans all surfaces very well, is relatively quiet and has good filtration (you can use Kenmore Hepa bags available at any Sears store.)
Some at Vacuumland claim the motor will need to be replaced in a few years. But since it only costs about $250, with the money you saved you can easily replace the motor for $140 every 5 years! It's a very dependable and practical canister vacuum. |
Post# 215599 , Reply# 10   1/24/2013 at 10:14 (4,081 days old) by GM1982 ()   |   | |
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The Aerus will probably glide the easiest on thick carpets, try an upright if you have lots of carpeting. |
Post# 215600 , Reply# 11   1/24/2013 at 10:24 (4,081 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut)   |   | |
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@parwaz786...Dyson and Henry have been eliminated.
Dyson's I just don't like, pretty on paper but performance overall not so great. If Henry only offers a "turbo" power nozzel, then It's not for me. @electromatik...I do love canisters (work better/eaiser with tools). I don't like water filtration, Rainbow out. Filter Queen...it's bagless, I like canisters with a bag and some other shortcomings with them. Riccar may be a contender though I wish it had a mini "power nozzel". I will have to look deeper into the Platinum. I don't mind paying $1000.00 or more for the best. @GM1982 & countryguy...Good points taken. I wish the Aerus Platinum Canister had power settings on the handle and not on the body of the canister. I don't like uprights, awkward on stairs. @eurekaprince...That cord is acutally shorter on the Panasonic, I need something over 25ft. @cue003...I've looked into Sebo (D4) and it's OK but would like a power nozzel that has a step hight adjustment (not a dial I have to bend over to access). I liked the hose material and length of the Kenmore Progressive (6ft). |
Post# 215603 , Reply# 12   1/24/2013 at 10:38 (4,081 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Well you can get Henry here with a turbo head here:
and it also comes with a 10 year warranty! - Joe CLICK HERE TO GO TO Ultimatevacman's LINK |
Post# 215604 , Reply# 13   1/24/2013 at 10:48 (4,081 days old) by matty0033 (New Brunswick, Canada)   |   | |
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Post# 215605 , Reply# 14   1/24/2013 at 10:53 (4,081 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )   |   | |
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@Ultimatevacman, That link to the go vacuum pet edition of the Henry still on has an air driven turbo brush not a separate motor driven power nozzle. I think the OP wants a motor driven power brush. |
Post# 215606 , Reply# 15   1/24/2013 at 10:59 (4,081 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 215611 , Reply# 16   1/24/2013 at 11:08 (4,081 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 215614 , Reply# 17   1/24/2013 at 11:14 (4,081 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 215615 , Reply# 18   1/24/2013 at 11:32 (4,081 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 215618 , Reply# 19   1/24/2013 at 12:13 (4,081 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)   |   | |
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Actually Tacony does have an electric mini nozzle but unfortunately you need to also buy this mini wand to go with it which looks like it would be very cumbersome
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Blackheart's LINK |
Post# 215634 , Reply# 21   1/24/2013 at 15:06 (4,081 days old) by director12 ()   |   | |
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I don't see how you dislike Miele. I think this post is getting controversial, as people love their Mieles. |
Post# 215643 , Reply# 22   1/24/2013 at 15:20 (4,081 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 215646 , Reply# 23   1/24/2013 at 15:50 (4,081 days old) by luxman107 (USA )   |   | |
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Look at the lux platinum. You won't be disappointed. |
Post# 215647 , Reply# 24   1/24/2013 at 15:55 (4,081 days old) by luxman107 (USA )   |   | |
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Btw, I agree not everyone like s Miele. I don't care for them either. The tools are terrible in my opinion. Everyone has their likes and dislikes. That doesn't make them wrong. |
Post# 215651 , Reply# 25   1/24/2013 at 16:15 (4,081 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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I see your points ... But i sill love my 'Miele |
Post# 215654 , Reply# 26   1/24/2013 at 16:24 (4,081 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)   |   | |
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I knew one existed, Nacecare.com used to have one on their site but i don't see it now. The link is to a UK shop who offers it.
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Post# 215697 , Reply# 30   1/24/2013 at 20:12 (4,081 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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I beg to differ about the storage of tools on the new Aerus Guardian Platinum: you can only store the crevice tool and the combination upholstery nozzle/dusting brush on the wand. I have always found this storage method inconvenient and annoying since the tools get in your way when you are trying to clean under furniture or high up on mouldings. As well, the combination tool needs to be attached with an adapter and I'm not sure where that adapter is stored. Aerus provides no way to store the floor brush or the mini power nozzle on board like the Kenmore canisters do.
For the money you pay for this vac, Aerus should really include a full-size tool carrier that can store everything including extra bags, filters and the instruction manual.... Just my thoughts on this downside to the Aerus Platinum.... |
Post# 215712 , Reply# 33   1/24/2013 at 23:28 (4,081 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 215753 , Reply# 36   1/25/2013 at 07:49 (4,080 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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The Kenmore Intuition does indeed have a headlight - it's actually placed on the lower tip of the wand - which is a nice feature since you then have illumination on your cleaning surface when using the floor brush or any other attachment connected to the telescopic wand. It's time for Aerus to start including innovative conveniences like this on their vacuum cleaners.
I think all vacmakers should provide a handy tool carrier as part of their deluxe canister packages. If a customer is spending over $700 on a power nozzle canister, they deserve to have a convenient way of storing every accessory including bags and filters. Just my humble opinion....:-) |
Post# 215755 , Reply# 38   1/25/2013 at 09:03 (4,080 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 215759 , Reply# 39   1/25/2013 at 09:18 (4,080 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 215820 , Reply# 41   1/25/2013 at 17:01 (4,080 days old) by xraytech ()   |   | |
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Like others here I would suggest an AerusLux. Another suggestion would be the Tristar, they seem very reliable, but not certain about tool storage or if it has an electric mini brush |
Post# 215821 , Reply# 42   1/25/2013 at 17:02 (4,080 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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A few things:
-- Most canisters have a cord winder, they only fit a certain amount of cord. Most are 25'. The longest by far is the Sebo D4 and in my mind that is the only benefit of that machine. The Tacony Riccar & Simplicity lines are 28' most Kenmores and Panasonic are 24'- 26' -- Most canisters on the market are made out of special well tested material that is known as "crush proof". You can step on it, crinkle it up, and it pops right back to life and some how electric current still works. It seems cheap and has a tendency while vacuuming to cut off suction when hose gets full tangled and twisted. But when you straighten the hose out everything pops back to life again. There are only a few companines without this style that still use the thick rubber, and primarily they are Aerus and Panasonic. Panasonic also makes the Kenmore canisters. -- Most canister hoses are 6'. The Hoover, basic Kenmores, Mieles are all about 6'. Riccar/ Simplicity, Sebo are about 7'- 8' long. -- Are you an allergy sufferer, I am. However despite being an allergy sufferer I do fine with the filtration on older Hoovers, new Hoovers, Kenmore's, Panasonics. If you are severely allergy allergic or are fearful of dust then you'll the newer sealed systems and excellent S Class HEPA filtration from Riccar, Simplicity, Aerus, Lindhaus, Miracle Mate, Sebo and of course your Miele. -- As many of stated, there is no perfect machine. Just like there are Vanilla, Chocolate and Strawberry combo pack flavors of ice cream with everyone having a favorite there are many vacuums out there. The one to get depends a lot on the surfaces in your home. If you have hard wood floors, you want rubber coated or non marring wheels this would be the Royal Lexon SR30020, Simplicity, Miele and many others. -- You mentioned your Miele power nozzle struggling on your thick carpets. Are we talking about 1" long very dense high pile carpet, 2.5" loose weave yarn style carpet or a shorter style yarn/ wool that's a little fluffier and dense but not as dense as a standard medium pile. For any of the looser weave carpets a manual height adjusted power nozzle is probably your best bet, such as Riccar, or Panasonic head. The Sebo heads DO NOT WORK AT ALL ON THE LOOSER WEAVE rugs!!! The circuit board kicks and shuts them off. So if you have those rugs, forget that brand it will be useless to you. If I were you I would go with Riccar/ Simplicity. They are excellent high quality machines that are extremely durable. There were a few made abroad that were having problems which is why they have changed over their entire line in 2012 with new models that are all made in the U.S at their factory in Missouri. The overall fit/ finish, quality is superb over their previous. Riccars are very powerful. Most of the machines carry a 5 year warranty, while some carry a 3 year warranty. The power nozzles have a 6 position foot pedal activated adjustment, also push pedal handle release. Most of the full size power nozzle have a metal brush roll with 2 rows of brushes, the TOL machine from Riccar and Simplicity such as the Simplicity Gusto have 3 rows of brushes on the power nozzle. The power nozzles are very powerful with lifetime rated serpentine belts. Many would say that the power nozzle on the Riccars are more powerful than Filter Queen, and Aerus. It is also a significantly more powerful, better cleaner and easier to use machine over the Sebo D4. Someone also mentioned the idea of a central vac. Yes the upfront price will be high for installation and unit. However once installed it has COUNTLESS benefits: -- Household ammenity-- adds value to house for future sale -- No emissions-- units vent outside so there is no dust emissions for the house -- Extremely powerful-- Most central vacuums have tremendous more suction power over normal household vacuum -- Sort of like using a canister as you're just maneuvering an electric power nozzle and hose. --Most units are universal fit ends to utilize any number of attachments from Hoover, Kenmore, etc. You can attach the Wessel Werk MEB160 electric mini power nozzle too. --Most hoses are 30', I would recommend getting the 35' just to ensure you won't have any problem reaching any area of your home. Utilizing the new "crush proof" style hoses they are much lighter weight compared to previous. --Many power nozzles on the market. The Beam Rugmaster is based off the Eureka Express head and utilizes a well known VGIII brush roll. Or you can high performance and get a Riccar style power nozzle, you could even find the power nozzle that your Kenmore used, they are still on the market, and use that nozzle. Kenmore is just a name and there units were manufactured by Panasonic using Cen-Tec manufactured power nozzles. I realize this is a lot to digest. I've been cleaning houses for 18 years, helping my clients choose vacuums that are appropriate for their households and excellent cleaning performance while being very efficient with in budget for me to use. I strongly recommend going to your local trusted vacuum dealer to see what they recommend and what is comfortable for you to use. If you happen to have a sample of carpeting from your house that is hard to vacuum, bring it to the shop with you and the dealer can be more helpful for finding a machine. Good Luck and feel free to contact my profile if you need further info. |
Post# 215848 , Reply# 44   1/25/2013 at 18:38 (4,080 days old) by mieles7 (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 215852 , Reply# 45   1/25/2013 at 18:43 (4,080 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )   |   | |
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@Miles7, thanks for the clarification on the S-Class. Good to know. |
Post# 215854 , Reply# 46   1/25/2013 at 18:46 (4,080 days old) by mieles7 (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 215861 , Reply# 48   1/25/2013 at 19:28 (4,080 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )   |   | |
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@floor-o-matic, does tri-star underrate their machines? I assume you are referring to the Tristar CS cleaner and their specs page says 86 inch H2O. I wonder what type of CFM this Tristar has. CLICK HERE TO GO TO cue003's LINK |
Post# 215864 , Reply# 49   1/25/2013 at 19:31 (4,080 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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I wasn't happy with the carpet grooming ability on the new TriStar. Now maybe with that new style green agitator that is supposed to be more aggressive bristle texture it's better.
One night at Vaccrazy's house, a collector on here. We used several vacuums that night. The TriStar MG style and a Sebo upright did not groom well compared to rest of competition. A Meile Blue Moon with SEB236 did very well, a Lux Classic canister did well, and a Silverado with PN4 did well along with several Hoovers that groomed very well and a Eureka Rotomatic power nozzle canister that did very well. Kirby Sentria groomed ok. |
Post# 216024 , Reply# 54   1/26/2013 at 15:16 (4,079 days old) by electromatik (Taylorsville, North Carolina, U.S.A.)   |   | |
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Just correcting myself here... It appears I was incorrect regarding the Kenmore Progressive lacking variable speed motor. It does indeed have 3 speeds. Perhaps I was thinking of a blower function, which it lacks. I personally wouldn't buy one, but it is a decent vac as mass produced store brands go and might be the right choice for you. Good luck. |
Post# 216027 , Reply# 55   1/26/2013 at 15:30 (4,079 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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The only brand of newer canister I have experience with is Kenmore. All of the Progressives (white, blueberry, and red) have variable speed controls. I have the red model. It has an 8 foot hose, the others have 6 and 7 foot hoses. The wand is telescoping and has a built in LED light like the Intuition. The attachments I find decent. Mine has a horsehair dusting brush, rubber-like upholstery tool, crevice tool, and horsehair bare floor tool. The crevice tool lets air leak at the sides so it doesn't provide much suction. The floor tool an upholstery tool store on the canister, the dusting brush and crevice tool are on the hose handle. The Pet Powermate tool stores on board the canister also.
Kenmore claims True HEPA AAFA certified. To get this, you must use the HEPA cloth bags which cost about $5 each. The build quality is decent, but as others stated not as good as Miele, Aerus, etc. The Intuition has more attachments, but it is quite expensive and I hear the floor nozzle that docks with the power nozzle has reliability problems with wheels falling off, etc. It has a horsehair dusting brush and angle brush that store on board as well as the crevice tool and Pet Powermate. |
Post# 216028 , Reply# 56   1/26/2013 at 15:36 (4,079 days old) by filterqueenman (Park City UT)   |   | |
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George - You are going to get a ton as you can see options from Members here. I was in the same boat several years ago. I wanted to to put in a central system. I heard the good, the bad and the ugly. I visited with a reputable store and took several systems for a spin. I ultimately elected on a system and glad I did. I love central systems it fit how I clean and the house layout was perfect for it. Then...
The Army moved me to Utah. This house would never work with a central system. Too many tight corners and to many expansive spaces to make it feasible. I elected to get the New Rainbow and love it. I have allergies and the salt plains here make for lots and lots of dust. The Rainbow is a perfect fit for ME! The system is all I could hope for and more. Would I do a central again? Yes, but not here. Maybe at retirement I will. For now the Rainbow is a good fit. Like you I am not a fan of the Miele. The biggest issue is what I called "belly flopping" on plush carpet. The wheels are so small it would glide across the room on the belly. Leaving a nasty carpet mark and so I returned the machine the same day I got it. The advice to take a carpet sample to the store is a great one; I plan to remember that if I buy another machine. Basically, go test drive them. Play with them and make the pro and cons list. You have been provided with a good list of great machines so good luck to you! The perfect machine for you is someplace, just got to find it! |
Post# 216031 , Reply# 57   1/26/2013 at 16:00 (4,079 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)   |   | |
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"I'm glad you love the upright, but for many of us, a canister just makes so much more sense."
I second this motion. I've been a die-hard upright user for four decades, but after visiting this website as I'm looking for a new vacuum (and keeping an open mind), I've had my own "Come to Jesus" moment about canisters, and how they really are much more appropriate for my Manhattan apartment. |
Post# 216036 , Reply# 58   1/26/2013 at 16:27 (4,079 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )   |   | |
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+1 on the canister. I too was an upright only until my current search. |
Post# 216047 , Reply# 59   1/26/2013 at 17:52 (4,079 days old) by luxman107 (USA )   |   | |
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I have 60 percent of my hose hard wood or tile and the rest carpet so canister is much better. Plus uprights just are practical for above the floor cleaning especially fo dusting furniture moldings etc. |
Post# 216051 , Reply# 60   1/26/2013 at 18:02 (4,079 days old) by Eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Actually, neither upright nor canister for me! Both!
Recent discussions at Vacuumland continue to prove to me that the wisest thing you can do is have an upright for carpets and a canister for everything else. The combination vacs are too complicated, heavy, and overengineered and the ones that come close to cleaning all surfaces well are overpriced. The wiring required to send power to a carpet nozzle makes these vacs have overly cumbersome hose handles and wands which are prone to electrical problems. And I do not like those cumbersome power nozzle hose handles that make it so tedious to clean cramped car interiors, bookshelves and other above the floor surfaces. I don't buy the excuse that 2 vacs take up too much room. I live in a small bachelor/studio/one-room apartment in a highrise in central Toronto and I have plenty of room for my Hoover Tempo upright and my little Electrolux UltraSilencer Green. They take up no more than 3 feet by 1.5 feet in my closet. Both are high performing vacs, extremely lightweight and cost me under $500 together. From my reading of Consumer Reports testing and brand reliability, the best vacuum team you can get now would be a Hoover Lightweight Platinum upright (the cheaper package without the portable canister) for carpets, and a Miele S2120 Olympus (red Contour in Canada) for everything else. If you want to splurge, you can upgrade the Miele with a "Home Care" accessory package for $150 which gets you a slim briefcase holding a big dusting brush, big upholstery nozzle and 1.5 meter hose extension. So for $250 (Hoover upright) + $300 (Miele canister) + $150 (deluxe Miele attachments), you get a cleaning team that is far easier to use and far more high performing than any single combination vac on the market. And the team will not take up more than 1 x 1.5 meters of closet space! Just my personal opinion friends....take it for what it's worth. :-) |
Post# 216073 , Reply# 61   1/26/2013 at 20:43 (4,079 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Spend as much money as possible to get great vacuums . Nothing but top of the line for me . I would never use big box store vacuums in my homes . Being a collector of quality vacuums for 40 years owning over 400 vacuums today's vacuums you can only get the best by purchasing TOL only . Yesterday's convertible hoovers and Eurekas were the last store bought vacuums that were made of the quality of today's D2D and TOL vacuum shop vacuums . If possible every home needs a TOL canister and TOL upright if you only could have two vacuums .
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Post# 216335 , Reply# 66   1/27/2013 at 20:34 (4,078 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )   |   | |
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That tri-star looks to be pretty sweet with that motor swap. Good job. |
Post# 217331 , Reply# 68   2/3/2013 at 02:41 (4,071 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut)   |   | |
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I'm heavily leaning toward the Riccar Immaculate Premier.
While the vacuum dealer I went to didn't have any Immaculate's for display, he had a 1500P that could play with. He also showed me the Sebo D4, which he personally likes. But once I saw that tiny dust brush, I was like, forget it. He said he would order for me the Immaculate Premier if that is what I wanted. He also said he would sell to to me at 30% off MSRP and throw in a box of free bags. (is that a good deal?) I'm also thinking of getting the "Handheld Electric Brush"(HEB-R), a mini powered brush for using on stairs and furniture (even though the Immaculate Premier comes with the "Deluxe Handheld Turbo Brush"). The only thing is that if you want to plug the Handheld Electric Brush into the hose handle, you need to get the "Canister Mini Wand". Otherwise it only plugs into the power nozzle wand. MSRP is $129.95 for the electric brush and $24.95 for the mini wand. Should I bother with extra HEPA filters and a extra belt (just in case)? Price break down: (MSRP) Immaculate Canister - $1529.95 Handheld Electric Brush - $129.95 Mini Wand for Canisters - $24.95 HEPA Post Filter/Charcoal Filter $41.95 Power Nozzle Belt $9.95 Canister HEPA Bags (6) - (FREE) Total $1736.75 - 30% discount (521.03) = $1215.72 Am I forgetting anything? |
Post# 217401 , Reply# 70   2/3/2013 at 15:35 (4,071 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Its a lot money. But I would go for it. A brand new Riccar Immaculate is a great vac.
The belt I would hold off on! The Riccars are warranted with lifefime belt warranty. There's very little maintenance needed with the Riccars. The filters are a good idea. The premotor filter has a carbon interior and is great at removing smells. They are stated as do not wash, but I washed mine and have had no problem with it. I wouldn't soak it over night but handwashing in some Woolite for about 30 minutes and a thorough rinse and it came out great. The post motor filter has a 25 hour timer. After 25 hours of use a light will flash on your hose handle instruction you to "Service Filter". My filter looked fine at end of first 25 hour cycle. My flashing light just went off yesterday and I will be replacing the post motor HEPA filter this time. The electric mini power head is your call. I personally would give the air turbine nozzle a try. At that point if not satisfied I'd even look into a separate corded hand vac with powered brush roll such as Hoover Sidewinder, or older style Dirt Devil hand vac. They're lightweight, easy to use and much more portable than taking out full size canister if you just want to clean a few things or flight of stairs. I'm very happy with my Hoover Sidewinders performance on carpeted steps. ***I use a smaller size belt than what came with unit and it runs stronger! CLICK HERE TO GO TO Durango159's LINK |
Post# 217467 , Reply# 73   2/3/2013 at 22:08 (4,071 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 217469 , Reply# 74   2/3/2013 at 22:20 (4,071 days old) by Durango159 (State College, PA)   |   | |
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Simplicity/ Riccar had a hose material problem. My old one broke, I got a replacement under warranty and the new, improved material is terrific!! It's very flexible and seems much more durable. The buttons on the hose also have a much better protection to them. I love the attachments on the Riccar.
I've used Lux's in the past and don't like their upholstery nozzle. The folding fins are all plastic with no bristles, rubber fingers or anything else and the edges are sharp. I have not found it good for delicate upholstery, pet hair, etc. |
Post# 217863 , Reply# 77   2/6/2013 at 09:29 (4,068 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut)   |   | |
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I told the vacuum guy I saw for the Riccar Immaculate, that word on the internet (vacuum forum) is that there should be new models coming later this year for the Riccar and I'm gong to hold off at this time.
He told me he actually will be attending a vacuum convention next week (the week of Feb 10'th) and would pass on any information on to me. Does any think images or info. would leak onto the internet so we can get a sneak peak at what's coming? |
Post# 217868 , Reply# 80   2/6/2013 at 10:39 (4,068 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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you seem to be very unaware of how Aerus works .This is how Aerus operates you call the 800# and a Salesman will deliver your purchase of any part , bag , filter ect. for FREE .
No other brand like Miele & Sebo will do that , it may seem very 80`s to you but thats how Aerus/Electrolux has operated since day one and thats what their customers love and continue to purchase Aerus products because of excellent customer service .
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Post# 217871 , Reply# 81   2/6/2013 at 11:00 (4,068 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 217874 , Reply# 83   2/6/2013 at 11:12 (4,068 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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you are not understanding what I am saying . They will not give you free products , the delivery of the items are free . You are playing with me I am sure because no one would ever expect to get free products . You can not be serious thinking a company would give you free bags filters and clean sweep chips for free . Please tell me your are joking George .
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Post# 217875 , Reply# 84   2/6/2013 at 11:15 (4,068 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)   |   | |
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Post# 217878 , Reply# 86   2/6/2013 at 11:25 (4,068 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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anyone who knows Aerus / Electrolux know that the products ordered are delivered the same day in most cases which I prefer over fedex . I had to correct my last post because you did not understand me but Matt knew exactly what I was talking about with out the correction . I will have to remember in the future to add as many words as possible to make sure what I write is understood by everyone .
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Post# 217880 , Reply# 87   2/6/2013 at 11:33 (4,068 days old) by Smith (North Carolina)   |   | |
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I know at my store we offer Fed Ex shipping if you do not want the supplies delivered by a rep. Most people choose the free delivery because they also get a free service check while we are there. I cannot speak for other locations but I would imagine they would ship also. |
Post# 217888 , Reply# 88   2/6/2013 at 11:44 (4,068 days old) by GM1982 ()   |   | |
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The sarcastic humor is always appreciated...its an appliance chat board, geez! relax.... anyone can comment and add to the chats. I like Aerus, but its ass backwards... |
Post# 217890 , Reply# 89   2/6/2013 at 11:52 (4,068 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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it`s not sarcasm I am very passionate about vacuums and I am trying to teach you about Aerus which seems like you dont understand how the company works . Aerus has been run that way since day one and the customers love that . If they didnt like the way Aerus operates they would have been out of business years ago . You are a very rare person not liking Aerus`s excellent customer service . Thats why there are many other brands out for you to purchase hopefully you find a brand that will please you . Good luck
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Post# 217938 , Reply# 92   2/6/2013 at 19:27 (4,068 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 217977 , Reply# 93   2/7/2013 at 06:46 (4,067 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )   |   | |
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@ctsooner, that Lux Guardiam Platinum is calling your name. :) it seems to be on many people's minds. Let me know if you decide to sell your D4 for a good price. |
Post# 217981 , Reply# 95   2/7/2013 at 08:10 (4,067 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 217989 , Reply# 98   2/7/2013 at 09:11 (4,067 days old) by GeorgeCT (Fairfield, Connecticut)   |   | |
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Post# 217990 , Reply# 99   2/7/2013 at 09:15 (4,067 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )   |   | |
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Great points and I do agree that the increase in features (subjective) that you get over say the Sebo or some of the other models doens't make up the difference in cost that is associated with the Lux. |