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Post# 213816   1/12/2013 at 21:46 (4,119 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)        

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This morning I found a Miele for $12.99. I almost wet myself on the way out of the thrift store. Naturally, it had a full bag in it so I stopped to purchase some bags for it they are not genuine but are the Filtrete brand. $14.99 for five bags and two filters wasn’t bad.

Drove home to my parent’s house because my dad was going to look at my car. While I was using it in my parent’s home the canister shut off a couple of times. The lights on the hose handle and canister still remained on. All I had to do was hit the “+” sign and the canister came right back on. I’m thinking that there is a short in the hose or handle controls.

The power nozzle was dirty so I took it apart. I’ll never do that again. I spent a good part of this evening putting it back together. Thankfully, I got it back together. Occasionally, it will make a screeching sound, but HEY for $12.99 for a WELL USED Miele isn’t bad. I just don’t want it to turn into a money pit; it may need a new hose and brush for the PN eventually. The canister came with all the on-board tools, but I need a floor brush so I’m thinking about ordering a generic one of off eBay.

I know that Andy a member of this club manages or owns his own Miele store. He gave away a brand new Miele away at the Convention in Minneapolis.

Any advice from Miele owners. How often do I need to replace the carbon exhaust filter?


Post# 213817 , Reply# 1   1/12/2013 at 21:49 (4,119 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)        

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This power nozzle was a NIGHTMARE to put back together. I don't think Mieles are user servicable.

Post# 213818 , Reply# 2   1/12/2013 at 21:53 (4,119 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
Nice

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that in my Opinion is the last best Miele produced . I sold that model the Blue Moon in my store . Lets hope the new S8 is as good or better than this model . I sold that for $1599.00 when I had my store .

Post# 213820 , Reply# 3   1/12/2013 at 22:03 (4,119 days old) by joshdonnell ()        
I think

Well i do believe the bluemoon is a great vacuum. Would take it over those Aerus platinum vacuums thats for sure

Post# 213824 , Reply# 4   1/12/2013 at 22:23 (4,119 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)        
Dan,

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Thanks for responding. Had no idea it cost that much new. What year did you sell these?

Post# 213825 , Reply# 5   1/12/2013 at 22:25 (4,119 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I think it

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was between 2003-6 .

Post# 213839 , Reply# 6   1/13/2013 at 02:03 (4,119 days old) by piano_god (British Columbia, Canada)        

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$12.99 for a Miele Blue Moon is a STEAL regardless of its condition! Well done!

If the machine shuts itself off without your input, yet the control panel remains lit, it's likely an issue with either the hose or the circuit board. In my experience, it's normally the hose (SES 125) that's the culprit, though.

The Wessel Werk manufactured fluorescent-lit SEB 236 can be beast to work on, especially if you're unfamiliar with it. But once you do it a few times, it's as easy as most advanced PH's to service. Be extra cautious to make sure none of the wiring has become pinched and it is secure in the wiring channels.

It you take the vacuum apart, you'll find it's surprisingly easy. It's nothing like the fluorescent-lit SEB 236.

Miele has activated charcoal in their Active AirClean and Active HEPA filters. Both filters have a usable lifespan of fifty hours, which Miele says is a year under normal conditions. Your Blue Moon has a filter change indicator on it, but considering the condition of the machine, I would suggest purchasing a new filter if you're continuing to use it, even with its current fault.

It's definitely going to take some funds to get it back to its former glory. However, if you decide to invest in it, you'll have a real gem of a vacuum when all is said and done.


Post# 213849 , Reply# 7   1/13/2013 at 08:13 (4,119 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Nice find

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Especially for the price! I am curious though other than the color is there a difference between the Blue Moon and Silver moon? the canister itself looks the same and i know the hoses are the same.

Post# 213864 , Reply# 8   1/13/2013 at 09:33 (4,119 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)        

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Scott, thanks for answering all my questions. I'll look into getting a new hose.

Post# 213866 , Reply# 9   1/13/2013 at 09:38 (4,119 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)        

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Looks like a great find for the price Kenny!

Post# 213868 , Reply# 10   1/13/2013 at 09:55 (4,119 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
The

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Blue Moon was the Lager TOL model uses GN bags .

The Silver Moon was the smaller TOL uses FJM bags


Post# 213902 , Reply# 11   1/13/2013 at 13:14 (4,119 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        
Nice find, Kenny!

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You certainly can't beat $12.99 for a TOL Miele!

I have the other TOL Miele canister that went along with this, the 2004 Miele Red Velvet. This is what replaced the Silver Moon as the smaller TOL model, & the introduction of the Red Velvet in 2004 was also the year that Miele introduced their Vortex motor, capable of producing 100" Waterlift.

As for replacing the "carbon exhaust filter" as you put it, I would just use the Super Air Clean filter that Miele supplies with each box of bags. Unless you have severe allergies, it should be sufficient. To use it, though, there is a plastic grate you have to use to hold the filter down, so it would need to be ordered if your Blue Moon didn't have it already. If you do decide the Active HEPA filter is worth the extra money, do yourself a favor....DON'T buy the cheap generic Miele HEPA filters that are sold on Ebay & thru some vac shops! I made the mistake of buying a couple of them for my Miele's, & found out that the Charcoal layer these Chinese-made filters use is inferior in quality....so a lot of air & dust escapes around the filter, rather than passing thru it & the HEPA filter material. It's just best to stick with the genuine Miele HEPA filters & get superior performance.

Best of luck with the repairs, Kenny, & enjoy your Miele Blue Moon.

Rob


Post# 213987 , Reply# 12   1/14/2013 at 02:11 (4,118 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

I agree with the bags.

I got a Miele for free that was being thrown out as it was dead. Turned out the cheap bags the owners had used did not fit properly (despite being the right code), and leaked all over the place, so much so that when they used it for DIY, the thermal cut-off switch blew, killing the vac.

Bit of solder and a full stripdown later and it worked good as new, and is now our daily vac.

(In the UK at least) you buy a box of 4 bags and a set of filters from Miele (or anywhere really, but Miele branded). After every 4 bags you change the filters. Ours has been in through 3 bags now and the top filter is black, the motor filter is still spotless!

The rebuild and a lesson in using genuine bags in the link. I don't see why people would use aftermarket bags really, the cheapest I've seen 4 bags (without filters)is about £7. John Lewis sells the box of 4 bags + filters for £9.99. For the cost difference it makes sense to get genuine.

Still, I wouldn't have my free Miele if genuine bags were used! On the lookout for more dead Mieles for relatives now!



CLICK HERE TO GO TO beko1987's LINK


Post# 214011 , Reply# 13   1/14/2013 at 09:00 (4,118 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
wow...

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You really brought that miele back to life the before and after is amazing

Post# 214038 , Reply# 14   1/14/2013 at 10:51 (4,118 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

It works great too. Taken from scrap to out of the box new. Was very satisfying too!

Post# 214085 , Reply# 15   1/14/2013 at 13:57 (4,118 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

Beko1987: my s4 was the same! They used the right bag but it hadn't been installed properly at some point, and all the crap had filled the compartment, and clogged the pre filter, and the machine had cut out! Family thought it was dead, so a free Miele for me too! I'll have a vid of it on YouTube soon!

Post# 214093 , Reply# 16   1/14/2013 at 15:05 (4,118 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)        

Nice find! It seems its a pretty common issue on them it seems. Excellent news for us kind then. May upgrade ours in a few years...

Post# 215442 , Reply# 17   1/23/2013 at 10:14 (4,109 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )        

Damn nice find. I need to start visiting my thrift shops to see what I can find. :)

Post# 215444 , Reply# 18   1/23/2013 at 10:25 (4,109 days old) by cue003 (S. FL, USA. )        

@beko1987, WOW!! That is a heck of a restoration job you did in that link. Vac looks awesome. Seems like a ton of work though.



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