Thread Number: 18739
Advice please: replacement for aging Miele Revolution 700 (UK) |
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Post# 206169 , Reply# 4   11/8/2012 at 08:57 (4,157 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 206170 , Reply# 5   11/8/2012 at 08:58 (4,157 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 206246 , Reply# 8   11/9/2012 at 06:29 (4,156 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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I would say if you are capable of doing your own repairs, you should try taking it apart first. Since your Miele is still turning on & sucking, that's a good sign.
What I would STRONGLY recommend doing is to get your hands on another canister vacuum with a blower port or find someone that has a powerful air compressor. If you're using a vacuum with a blower port, put the hose on the blower along with a crevice tool to concentrate the airflow. Take the motor out, & take the blower vacuum or air compressor to it. I had a Eureka Maxima upright, which you guys get as Electrolux over in the UK, that had been given to me, which had hardly any suction & was incredibly noisy. Once I took the motor out & blew it out good, the problem was instantly solved & full power was restored. Especially since this is an older Miele you have here, it would be a shame to see such a well-made vacuum thrown away when it could be such a simple repair is all it needs. Best of luck to you....Rob |
Post# 206247 , Reply# 9   11/9/2012 at 06:30 (4,156 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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I would say if you are capable of doing your own repairs, you should try taking it apart first. Since your Miele is still turning on & sucking, that's a good sign.
What I would STRONGLY recommend doing is to get your hands on another canister vacuum with a blower port or find someone that has a powerful air compressor. If you're using a vacuum with a blower port, put the hose on the blower along with a crevice tool to concentrate the airflow. Take the motor out, & take the blower vacuum or air compressor to it. I had a Eureka Maxima upright, which you guys get as Electrolux over in the UK, that had been given to me, which had hardly any suction & was incredibly noisy. Once I took the motor out & blew it out good, the problem was instantly solved & full power was restored. Especially since this is an older Miele you have here, it would be a shame to see such a well-made vacuum thrown away when it could be such a simple repair is all it needs. Best of luck to you....Rob |
Post# 206267 , Reply# 10   11/9/2012 at 11:31 (4,156 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Personally speaking, if you are used to Miele and like them, there's nothing stopping you from buying any of their cylinder vacs. However, as a fan of both German brands, the SEBO D series is relatively new and hasn't seen much of a unreliable issue. It was made to compete with Henry as well as a replacement for the C series large cylinder vac (rivalling the S500 and S700 models by Miele).
The SEBO D series is only suitable for large to extra large homes as it has a 12 metre length power cord that rewinds in at a touch of a button. It lacks the pull rewind function on the K series. K series has a 3 litre dust bag, the D series has a 6 litre dust bag. Compared to Miele, you get far more value for money with SEBO on more dust bags per box and the filters tend to last longer. Also D series range comes with three small cleaning tools as standard like Miele - dusting brush too! From what I can recall, the Miele S700 uses the smaller 3.5 litre or 4 litre FJM bag based on different sizes of the bag cavity per S4, S6 - I never bought a Sebo C yet since the S571 was a fantastic all rounder. Comet do have the new S700 in stock but you can whistle if you're looking for a discount. The S6 is okay but its too expensive for what you're getting - and the tools don't hide under a flap. Best to either consider the S5211 older black model or the latest S8210 black model as both are priced between £175 and £200 and have the tools hidden under the flap like the S700. Generally the S8 and S5 base line black models are neck and neck on power & performance, with the S8 benefitting from the nifty one touch cord rewind button that the S6 has. The D2 starts off at £177- to £219 for the basic spec red Storm model that only comes with a standard suction only floor head. Other models like the D2 Titan and D2 Total come with different floor heads for multiple cleaning tasks. But you do get the bigger amount of cord, a slightly larger dust bag capacity to the Miele's larger GN dust bags and nearly twice as much power cord length. Bear in mind that the UK SEBOS all come with a 5 year guarantee as standard. Miele's S8 on "selected models" come with 10 year guarantees and some with an extra £30 spent offer for the 10 years - but this does not count all the models in the line up. See link below for the S8 base model, S8310 Power Plus - a good price from John Lewis at £179-99, but Im pretty sure the S8310 and S5211 can be purchased from other retailers - Redhill appliances are pretty good for Miele vac offers (www.redhillappliances.co.uk...) and Amazon UK (current price is £168-99 for the S5211 cylinder vac.) If youre looking for value for money, the Sebo D series is worth looking into. If you're a Miele fan though I'd settle for the S8 or S5 (don't forget you can buy the HEPA filter separately for ANY Miele vacuum) - I have an S6 and about the only thing I appreciate about it over the older models is the new comfort auto cord rewind function. At the time of purchase the S8 was not on the market, but if it was I'd have settled for the better made S8 instead of the S6. Since you have a Miele already, you can just either get the one you have fixed or consider a new cylinder that can use the existing tools. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK |
Post# 206544 , Reply# 11   11/12/2012 at 03:48 (4,154 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Oh my, a coincidence!
Used S8 going without a suction tube. CLICK HERE TO GO TO sebo_fan's LINK on eBay |
Post# 206606 , Reply# 13   11/12/2012 at 19:32 (4,153 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Generally most if not all of Miele's non-electric cylinder vacs have a 1.8 metre hose - they haven't risen to Sebo's added hose length just yet though I wish they would. Less bother to pull a weight behind you when all you have is hose and suction pipes. Im surprised you say John Lewis don't have S6 Miele vacs - perhaps the Scottish stores are different - plenty of S6 models on the shop floor including reduced shop floor demo models at £132 to £134 "special price," for the base S6210 model.
The S6 does exist in John Lewis stores, but only the Cat and Dog model at £199-95 (same price as the base line black S8) or wait for it....£319-00 for the swanky red velvet covered model S6730. Outgoing models tend to be the baseline S6210 in blue or the horrible one I have, the S6 Ecoline S6240. Dont forget - don't be put off by what your John Lewis store doesn't have - you can use the Internet for that - if you want a specific model phone your local store up and ask then to get the base line S8 black model in stock for you or whatever model you see provided you give them the product code number from John Lewis website. I did that with my Sebo D2 Total in Glasgow - as they only stocked the Storm model in-store at the time. Avoid the "Special Low suction" air teq twin pedalled floor head. Well, unless you like untangling it each time the back of the cord from the machine gets tangled up between the pedals and the machine. It is heavier than even the older Miele S5 large suction only floor heads. Not really worth it unless of course you want to slow down your cleaning, as it is bulkier to use in general and I find the rubberised wheels squeal on my marble floor tiles = not exactly aspiring to the usual quality Miele put into their floor heads. I notice that the S8330 Solution HEPA has a claimed headlight on the handle and an extra long 11 metre cable (why did it take them so long to fit a longer cable??!). |
Post# 206682 , Reply# 14   11/14/2012 at 05:51 (4,151 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 206841 , Reply# 16   11/16/2012 at 11:23 (4,149 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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OH well, thanks for that info! Glad you got an S8. That's one aspect I like about Miele and Sebo in the UK - their offer of the optional cost tools and filters means you can custom build without spending a fortune on specialised machines. Bosch are also starting to do the same with their floor care appliances.
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