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Model G Cordwinder Fix?
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Post# 203316   10/9/2012 at 22:34 (4,188 days old) by collectorclue20 ()        

I went to an auction on Saterday and I found an electrolux model g, a model r, a hoover convertible, and a pink and white ge. I really like the color of the g. It's sorta like a 1954 chevrolet. The cord winder will not take the cord back in. Does anyone know how to fix this?

Post# 203374 , Reply# 1   10/10/2012 at 11:28 (4,187 days old) by collectorclue20 ()        
Front view

The chrome look is awesome :)

Post# 203389 , Reply# 2   10/10/2012 at 13:58 (4,187 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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It has a coil spring inside that makes all that happened.  It sounds like it no longer has any tension because it came unhooked.  It's been a while since I've fixed one of those, but it's actually a pretty straightforward repair as I recall. 

 

 


Post# 203394 , Reply# 3   10/10/2012 at 15:20 (4,187 days old) by collectorclue20 ()        
Spring

Thanks. I have never taken anything on a vacuum apart before. I would definately like to learn how to fix things myself. I figured if I tried to take it apart, things might pop out or something and I wouldn't remember how to get it back in right, but if it is just a spring that needs to be re-hooked, I can probably do that.

Post# 203395 , Reply# 4   10/10/2012 at 15:56 (4,187 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Hi Guys! If you decide to attept to fix the cord rewinder on your G, BE VERY CAREFUL!! That spring is bigger than you would think and is VERY SHARP! It can do some rather nasty things if it decides to cut loose when your trying to get the tension back on it. Best of luck, Toby G.

Post# 203413 , Reply# 5   10/10/2012 at 18:46 (4,187 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)        

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I have no idea how to fix the cord winder. But, I will tell you that years ago while taking apart a 1980's Electrolux HiTech 2100, I was atempting to fix the cord winder and it cut my hand pretty badly. They may not look very sharp, but trust me they are, and they can quickly and unexpectedly shoot out from where it is wound. Not exactly the type of object you would ever want to come flying at you. Make sure you wear some HEAVY GLOVES, gloves like you might use if doing construction or heavy duty gardening, a pair that will not tear easily and will protect your hands from the sharp edge of the coil. I haven't ever had the need to fix a Lux cord winder since my last incident but I would never go near another one without gloves on.

Post# 203418 , Reply# 6   10/10/2012 at 20:17 (4,187 days old) by collectorclue20 ()        
Thanks for info :)

Thank you all for the helpful tips. I will definately wear gloves. Don't feel like getting mutilated anytime soon.

Post# 203424 , Reply# 7   10/10/2012 at 20:58 (4,187 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        

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Good advice...always wear protection!


Post# 203460 , Reply# 8   10/11/2012 at 09:49 (4,186 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Model G

Your G is the early (about 61) with PN outlet on door.Looks like 1 rear wheel was changed witch would be typical.Looks very nice.--As to cordwinder above is good and true advice for any cw.The springs can cut you in a heartbeat!!!If you proceed on the G knowing to use caution on spring and hopefully with experience of replacing parts in proper places-First,pull side bumpers rearward which will expose a screw on each side.this is easier if warmed with blow dryer or leave in car in sun,etc.The polished cw end will then drop off.At this point the spring is secure under a metal strip with screw at each end.Part of problem can be dirty,sticky and needs cleaning and lubrication off moving parts.The 2 brass contacts rings and matching contacts should be cleaned with WD40 or similar and then a light coating of vaseline or similar.Also light oiling of ball bearings.IF you remove reel (after unwinding to take any tension off spring!!)and remove screws on hold down bar you can wipe and lubricate moving parts.At this point you can unwind cord from reel and check for wear at cw end.If wear is just beginning you can put a new knot at end off cord to give it a fresh wear point.Also examine spring (with NO tension!) for breaks or 'wrinkles'witch is not very likely.DO NOT unwind!The Elux CWs prove to be the most dependable.If all is well or better replace reel,replace hold down over spring,manually wind cord on reel and then give 3 turns to put tension back on spring.Hope this helps.The G is one of the GREATS! with a good hose,Elux atts and can use original Power Nozzle or interchange with most newer.Trivia-The tube at upper corner is an air vent to provide cooling air to cw if hose clogs.

Post# 203505 , Reply# 9   10/11/2012 at 22:07 (4,186 days old) by collectorclue20 ()        
Oiling

I do think that the bearings may need oiling. When it is powering down I think I can hear them. The info I have learned from you all is very helpful. I joined this site about a week or two ago. I noticed that my user name (collectorclue20) is very similar to another member's username (collector2). I am sorry if there is any confusion. I chose that name because I collected boardgames(however I also collect vintage vacuums) and one of my favorites is Clue, and the 20 is because I am 20 years old. Is there a way I can change to a different user name? like (collectrolux)or something :)

Post# 203563 , Reply# 10   10/12/2012 at 14:11 (4,185 days old) by eurekastar (Amarillo, Texas)        
User name...

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I don't think there's any need to change your user name.  Collectorclue20.  I like your reasoning behind it! 

 


Post# 203590 , Reply# 11   10/12/2012 at 20:00 (4,185 days old) by Real1 ()        
I'd be

happy to walk you through this if you can take pics and send in email. I've done a fair number of these.  Don't use WD 40 for anything. It's a water dispersant formula with silicone. There are dozens of special purpose sprays that perform better in every way.  You probably need a tutorial with pics, or an 'Elmer' to walk you through this as you both exchange pics.  I did this with a member here not long ago and still have a G winder half apart for illustration purpose.

 

Kevin

 

 


Post# 203625 , Reply# 12   10/13/2012 at 10:26 (4,184 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Model G

Kevin is right above as a picture would be worth the proverbial 1000 words.The WD-40 or similar was only suggested to clean the one area.--There can be cases that would be best to start with a parts machine as cw donor,if plug and cord are bad,etc.The cord is easy to replace on reel on 1205 or newer,not so easy before.But your G looks low milage.How is the R(first standard with PN outlet)?-The GE?-Happy Vacuuming.

Post# 203637 , Reply# 13   10/13/2012 at 15:11 (4,184 days old) by collectorclue20 ()        
Cool

Kevin, I might take you up on that offer as soon as I get it back. I ended up taking it to Fuller's vacuum shop because I was smelling a strange smell. It's hard to describe the smell.........It smelled like electricity if that makes any sense.
Thanks Eurekastar :), I will keep the name.
Rugsucker: The model R works pretty good. I was surprised as it was a little rough looking. It has scratches here and there and the bag compartment was a little rusted in an area, but I tried it out and it has good suction and performed quite well. I have to find another cord for the GE because it has been cut. Also the top swivel part is not attached, but Im not sure how it was attached. Im thinking that there was a ring or something below the lid that kept it attached.


Post# 203652 , Reply# 14   10/13/2012 at 18:48 (4,184 days old) by ge1969 (Jefferson, GA)        

Hey Collector! You're right. There was a metal locking ring that snapped into a groove on the swivel-top and held it into the lid. Were you lucky enough to get a hose or tools with the G.E.? Keep us posted, Toby G.

Post# 203660 , Reply# 15   10/13/2012 at 21:57 (4,184 days old) by collectorclue20 ()        
GE

Toby, I did get the combination carpet and hard floor nozzle and a hose also, but the nozzle is kind of rusted and the hose ends are too. The hose looks as if it were fixed because someone used a hose clamp to put the hose back on the end that goes into the extension wands. I will post a picture after I finish my homework for my criminology class that is due through online submission tonight :) Hate homework due on weekends!!

Post# 203665 , Reply# 16   10/13/2012 at 22:23 (4,184 days old) by kenkart ()        
Wish!

I was closer, I would be glad to show you how to fix the cordwinder,they really can be dangerous if you are not used to working on them, the bearings are an easy fix, the rear bearing is a sleeve bearing ,so a few drops of oil on the felt packing will usually do it, the front bearing is a ball bearing, it is also an easy fix, you just wash it out in kerosene or paint thinner.etc, dry it well and re pack it with grease.

Post# 203673 , Reply# 17   10/13/2012 at 23:18 (4,184 days old) by collectorclue20 ()        
Closer than u think Kenkart :)

Mocksville, NC is actually only about an hour and 45 minutes from where I live! I would really enjoy meeting you sometime. knowing people who are knowledgeable about vacuums is cool. If I find myself up in that area, I will definately look you up.

Post# 203676 , Reply# 18   10/14/2012 at 00:28 (4,184 days old) by collectorclue20 ()        
GE

Here is the GE

Post# 203771 , Reply# 19   10/14/2012 at 20:22 (4,183 days old) by collectorclue20 ()        
ring

I think I will go to Lowes and see if they have some type of ring that will hold the swivel on and also a cord that I can replace the cut one with.

Post# 203811 , Reply# 20   10/15/2012 at 09:37 (4,182 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
GE

Your GE is the pink 1955 Swivel Top.These started at $99 with the 52 model and were about $69 for yours.It was first with removable wheel dolly that could be steered through house by pushing/pulling with rug/floor tool at rear of dolly.Every collection should have one.Should have an inner cover over cloth and paper bags.Original cords almost never survive.New cord is easy to wire after removing screws on bottom.

Post# 203944 , Reply# 21   10/16/2012 at 10:53 (4,181 days old) by collectorclue20 ()        
Dolly

On the back of the dolly on this one, it sticks out a bit with a u shaped hook. I thought it might have been to stick a hose through or something, but it makes more sense what you said, and it also has a metal cover inside with a cloth bag. Thanks for the knowledge bro!


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