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Post# 201136 , Reply# 1 9/18/2012 at 18:51 (243 days old) by vacman117  (Valparaiso, IN) |
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 Most people are going to say that everything went downhill, but in my opinion, I think TTI went the same direction that Hoover would have gone in the first place. Times change and nobody can seem to accept that. A lot of the TTI Hoovers are fantastic cleaners. I own a lot of them. You will not be disappointed by the Windtunnel Air by any means. I have one and it's a very sturdy, reliable machine.
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| Post# 201137 , Reply# 2 9/18/2012 at 19:15 (243 days old) by sarasvacshack (Cloquet, Mn) | ||
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 truck loads of used vac trades. TTI Hoovers are garbage and rarely in good condition. Those that are in good condition usually have the attachment holders broken off. Ours join the Bissells, Eurekas and bagless units in the great big blue storage bin (that gets picked up once a week), after having their power cords removed of course...lol.
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Post# 201138 , Reply# 3 9/18/2012 at 19:26 (243 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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 No one knows what Maytag/Whirlpool would have done, but I would agree that it would not have much different from what TTI is doing. But still, TTI has done some pretty bad things to the new Hoover name. For example, they have re-branded cheap DirtDevils into low-end Hoovers and shut down all manufacturing plants in North Canton, but I doubt much could have been about that anyway.
I think TTI machines are decent vacuums. Most are better than the Bissell and Eureka competitors, and the prices reflect the quality. Late Maytag Hoovers got pretty bad, like the bagless Tempo, so you will get better results with your Windtunnel Air. However, you can get much better vacuums at lower prices than the Windtunnel. The Eureka 1934 retails for $99, the Hoover Tempo(very, very nice Hoover)is $75, or a Hoover Elite is only around $100 brand new. So look at all the options for sure. | ||
Post# 201142 , Reply# 4 9/18/2012 at 20:02 (243 days old) by Ipreferkirby  (Wisconsin) |
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How do you get a Hoover Elite Brand new, I thought Hoover discontunied the elite if I remember right. | ||
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Post# 201144 , Reply# 5 9/18/2012 at 20:52 (243 days old) by mieles7 (Plano, TX) |
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 Hoover makes a commercial elite. I've heard great things about it.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO mieles7's LINK | ||
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Post# 201155 , Reply# 6 9/18/2012 at 22:51 (243 days old) by Durango159 (Port Matilda, PA) |
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 I think the products are worse. The Hoover Maytag stuff wasn't great, but for example the canister vacuum tool set stayed the same for the duration of Maytag from the Hoover Dimension 1000. Now its rare to get a Hoover canister with a bare floor brush. Most of the tools don't stay on board and some are microscopic. They have made changes to the attachment set on the Tempo too, which used to come with Hoovers original upholstery nozzle, now its a Dirt Devil Featherlite dusting brush.
It used to be Dirt Devil was a budgeted consumer line. Reasonable cleaning, great warranty but cheap lightweight design, and very loud. Hoover was on middle ground. Excellent cleaning, and reasonable durability at low cost. Royal was top notch. Mostly metal units. Now everything is merged. A Hoover Windtunnel Supreme is now a Royal home based series--same exact machine different label and color. Also the former Wal-Mart exclusive Dirt Devil Rewind with brush roll on/off is now a rebadged Royal upright- same design. None of the brands have their own unique signature anymore they're all pretty much merged. The TOL Royal SR20 canister for $600 is the suction unit on a Hoover Windtunnel Anniversary canister with higher featured power nozzle from the bagless cyclonic Hoovers. The hose looks like it is the same style as the bagless cyclonic Hoovers as well. Hoover's "exciting" 6 year warranty Platinum line has been plagued by failures of the bagless cyclonic canister and carpet shampooer. The canister having hose problems and I think some of the wiring for the new power heads has been problematic. Otherwise the new Windtunnel power nozzle actually looks nice. The carpet shampooer has lots of technology and is a fantastic cleaning machine so I've heard but it has lots of issues. With TTI, Hoover no longer makes their own hoses. Its a generic manufacturer. Their current carrying hoses can be seen on cheap Bissell and Dirt Devil canisters. The agitators are now CWP instead of Hoover. So the replacement brush roll for the Elite and my PowerMax canister is awful. The original Hoover green colored bags are gone. The standard bag is now a white material and is awful. Its filtration effects are a disgrace and have caused problems with my Hoovers. I now use generic bags. The Hoover museum and North Canton factories are gone, the last factory is in the process of being shut down. I'll never get to see the Hoover museum which was a dream of mine someday!!! | ||
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Post# 201161 , Reply# 7 9/18/2012 at 23:32 (243 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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Post# 201168 , Reply# 8 9/19/2012 at 01:24 (242 days old) by floor-a-matic (USA) |
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 I hope the Hoover Historical Museum stays open!
Generally, I think Hoover products went downhill back in early 1985. I dislike the new, "cheap" turbo brush. The ORIGINAL "WindTunnel" turbo brush was the best ever. When did the Tempo change their tools? Why can't they go back to the button lock tools like the pre-Elite days? | ||
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Post# 201171 , Reply# 9 9/19/2012 at 03:50 (242 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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TTI---Buffoons of the vacuum cleaner world!!!when they take over a company---The Kiss of Death. | ||
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Post# 201172 , Reply# 10 9/19/2012 at 03:57 (242 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK) |
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 Oh I don't know - I think TTI have been good for Vax UK. Certainly in the days before TTI were official and Vax were being given Dirt Devil U.S products to re-badge, I don't think Vax would have survived on their canister tubs alone. Yes, there was the 2 in 1 upright vacuum cleaner, the Vax Wave where you could use a tank instead of the paper dust bag, but Vax sales alone concentrated highly on their tub 3 in 1 canister vacs before dabbling with Bosch to produce the VX/AVC upright. TTI have been good for Vax UK as far as I can see - almost all of their cylinder and uprights are Dirt Devil U.S products and now U.S Hoover products (like the Windtunnel Air).
The Vax Mach Air may well have been designed in the UK but I believe TTI had this design on their books giving each country their own take and enterprise to design something to each taste. | ||
| Post# 201181 , Reply# 11 9/19/2012 at 07:33 (242 days old) by myvacsrock (Adrian, MI) | ||
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| Post# 201182 , Reply# 12 9/19/2012 at 07:35 (242 days old) by myvacsrock (Adrian, MI) | ||
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Post# 201186 , Reply# 13 9/19/2012 at 09:47 (242 days old) by Durango159 (Port Matilda, PA) |
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Oh wow, I am sooo terribly sorry. I thought I heard that it was shut down. Wonderful to hear that is owned by Walsh College. Ok, who wants to go on a road trip!! LOL. I can still go there someday then.
Do they still tons of vacuums to show progression over the years of styles, or did they sell a lot off? I would love to know more info about. | ||
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Post# 201319 , Reply# 15 9/20/2012 at 19:19 (241 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK) |
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Post# 201368 , Reply# 17 9/21/2012 at 01:18 (240 days old) by floor-a-matic (USA) |
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Post# 201413 , Reply# 18 9/21/2012 at 20:09 (240 days old) by Ipreferkirby (Wisconsin) |
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What is Vax USA (yes I do have a lot to learn) | ||
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Post# 201445 , Reply# 19 9/22/2012 at 05:11 (239 days old) by floor-a-matic (USA) |
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Post# 201448 , Reply# 20 9/22/2012 at 09:23 (239 days old) by Ipreferkirby (Wisconsin) |
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Redirects me to vax.com, does vax usa exist anymore? | ||
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Post# 201473 , Reply# 21 9/22/2012 at 15:07 (239 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK) |
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