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Post# 199697   9/6/2012 at 17:39 (4,221 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Saw this lying around at work the other day, and lo and behold... |
Post# 199698 , Reply# 1   9/6/2012 at 17:41 (4,221 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Which do seem quite biased towards Miele... No mention of Sebo, who I think are on par/equal with Miele. |
Post# 199700 , Reply# 2   9/6/2012 at 17:42 (4,221 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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I actually read this in the magazine. Which? seem to be going off Dyson again. |
Post# 199701 , Reply# 3   9/6/2012 at 17:43 (4,221 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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Looked at the AEG when I went through a wanting a new vac phase. Settled for a free Miele S5210 after rebuilding it and re-soldering a blown thermal sensor |
Post# 199702 , Reply# 4   9/6/2012 at 17:47 (4,221 days old) by beko1987 (Stokenchurch, United Kingdom)   |   | |
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And sadly no surprise about Hoover! I wonder who will be their flavour of the month next month? I suppose if manufacturers donate the cleaners for testing, that would explain. If Miele chucked more vacs at which than the others, I suppose they will give them more page space. Not saying it's not deserved however! |
Post# 199707 , Reply# 6   9/6/2012 at 18:14 (4,221 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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I disagree with that last sentence. I thought it was as bad a ever. I say this light heartedly as I do agree with your post Rolls Rapide. One would be forgiven for wondering if crevice tools have been greased with silver. |
Post# 199712 , Reply# 9   9/6/2012 at 18:27 (4,221 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I once watched a Vid some one sent me when on eof these so called experts from a publisher tested some vacs against each other. How they did the test made me laugh out loud. Pet hair was my favortie , the had gone to a doggy parlour and got a few bags of pet hair. They simply took clumps of the hair and spread it on the carpet. uprights included a dc25, sebo felix, Eureka airspeed. Cylinders were Miele NO PN and a few other non pn models. These bright sparks deduced that from there tests the miele and one of the other non pn canisters picked up pet hair more effectivly because the uprights pushed the large clumps of pet hair around.
TWO things, I have 11 yes ELEVEN cats and I own all three of those uprights and all are exelant at picking up pet hair
When last did your dog or cat shed large fist full's of hair on your carpet. Really can they honestly be that dumb |
Post# 199723 , Reply# 12   9/6/2012 at 19:04 (4,221 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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Either that or 'Like'. I do believe that to be a word of popular choice. |
Post# 199763 , Reply# 13   9/7/2012 at 03:01 (4,220 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Madabouthoovers Thats my point these experts no nothing.Whats more have you ever noticed how Miele is always the best rated vacuum when it comes to these magazine reviews, They will always have 10 machins from Miele and one from every one else. I wonder though when you page through the magazine"s and then notce tha miele has at least 4 or 5 ads in the magazine. MMMMMM looking after yyour paying customers maybee.
I took on a magazine here in SA after there tests stated that the miele was the best out of a host of vacuums. haveing just completed some actualy lab tests on it and other models I knew that out of the 10 models tested the miele ranked 7th so I took them on and invited them to see how proper testing is done. after some backwards and forwards they printed a revised version afte I threatened to go viral on them.
What I also find amusing is coparing the models to each other , Like they will compare the miele Cat& dog to the dyson dc39 allergy and then say Oh the miele picks up pet hair better, why not compare it to the dc39 animal.
Or compare the Miele cat& dog to the AEG /Electrolux Ultra one with the turbonozzle, I have a Utra one and it blows the Miele away, Its much better made aswell |
Post# 199800 , Reply# 14   9/7/2012 at 10:50 (4,220 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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gsheen - you are spot on there and I was just about to say what you've said. As a paying member of Which since 2007 or 2009, I ended my subscription for their love of Miele and nothing else - example looking at the postings Beko has supplied here ;
The Miele S6 Ecoline and the Miele S6290 Silence are exactly the same save for the body colour. How can the S6290 be rated 5 stars for noise and 4 stars for the Ecoline when they both have the same 1200 watt motor? I looked at both (and trialled) at John Lewis when I bought my Ecoline and the Silence model is exactly the same on noise. Also, how can the S6 Cat and Dog have poorer performance using the standard turbo brush on carpets against the suction only floor tools that get 5 stars on carpet performance on other Miele models? Something doesn't add up!
Steve - the reason, or rather Which's poor reason for not testing the K series is because they feel there isn't much of a demand for the K series, hence why they don't test it any more. As for the X series, they used to have test results for the X1 Automatic way back in the 1990s and forever lauded it as being one of the best vacs on the market - Which haven't done much with the current X series since then, although last I looked on Which's other forum, there were quite a few owners who rightly wrote review comments on the info Which had supplied, as well as quite a few owners who were shocked to see the Numatic Henry as a "Don't Buy" in one of the past issues. Which do get it wrong sometimes, but to the consumer who doesn't know much about vacuums, it's a kick in the teeth for owners sometimes. |
Post# 199855 , Reply# 17   9/7/2012 at 15:37 (4,220 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 199857 , Reply# 18   9/7/2012 at 15:41 (4,220 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 199858 , Reply# 19   9/7/2012 at 15:44 (4,220 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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Vax is Vax. No doubt Hoover and Vax have had similar cleaners on sale as there is a lot of 'branding' which goes on, but they are different companies. |
Post# 199871 , Reply# 22   9/7/2012 at 16:22 (4,220 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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Sorry, that should have been Vax Mach Air 3, the new version just released which is the same as the Windtunnel Air Vax Mach Air 3: |
Post# 199872 , Reply# 23   9/7/2012 at 16:23 (4,220 days old) by madabouthoovers ()   |   | |
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Hoover Windtunnel Air: |
Post# 199893 , Reply# 24   9/7/2012 at 19:05 (4,220 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Steve - the new Air 3 swivels though whereas the Windtunnel Air does not. More to the point, the original Vax Mach Air is similar. I thought they had identical suction channels but the Windtunnel Air does not. There's a previous thread regarding this on here.
Vax UK are owned by TTI - so it makes automatic sense that most Hoover products in the U.S are also available as a Vax in the UK. It was like that for years anyway - Vax Swift uprights and most of their entire uprights and cylinders were all from Dirt Devil U.S with the exception of Vax's own canister vacuum and the Bosch merged VX upright. Where it gets confusing is when Hoover UK can't be bothered to make a vacuum cleaner of their own and pay money to brands like Dirt Devil U.S for vacuums like their Quick Vibe, redress it and then put a more expensive price on it. I was shocked when I discovered that the Dirt Devil Extreme (the same as the Hoover Alyx upright that has now been discontinued/no longer listed on Hoover UK site) is half the cost price than the version we get in the UK! Hoover's Turbo Power bagless upright isn't their own either - as one other member pointed out in a previous thread on here. The bagged Wertheim featured on QVC is actually a Dirt Devil U.S vacuum cleaner. It also appeared here shortly in the UK as a catalogue brand/Kays brand "Swan," but without the power nozzle. |