Thread Number: 17848
Very Rare for SA Hoover 638 |
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Post# 194007   8/9/2012 at 09:13 (4,249 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194044 , Reply# 1   8/9/2012 at 15:42 (4,248 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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Holy crap! That poor chil' needs some cleanin' up! A good project for when you are bored. Are the parts essentially the same as the British models? Did they make any in South Africa? I seem to remember they told us at the factory in North Canton that they made washing machines in S.A., but what about vacuums? |
Post# 194048 , Reply# 2   8/9/2012 at 16:13 (4,248 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 194053 , Reply# 3   8/9/2012 at 16:23 (4,248 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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John
Yes they made vacuums here in SA. In fact they had a huge test facility back in the 50's and 60's in the eastern Cape. All New designs of washers, vacuums and machines that could face abuse were tested out here. The idea was if it lasted here in SA it would last anywere.Kelvinator and indesit also had test facility's here in SA. Luckily nothing is broken on this poor machine just cosmetic and possibly a new motor bearing and top bush, and some new agitator bearings. I am looking forward to working on this monster this weekend it shall be fun |
Post# 194055 , Reply# 4   8/9/2012 at 16:26 (4,248 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Have you ran it without the belt to make sure the motor bearing requires replacement ?
In my experience the brush roll bearings were the ones to go whilst the motor bearings lasted very long indeed. That reminds me, I shall have to replace the brush roll in my Senior, since the bearings are gone and it is getting rusty it seems easier to just put a shiny new one in. |
Post# 194057 , Reply# 5   8/9/2012 at 16:34 (4,248 days old) by anthony (leeds uk)   |   | |
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Post# 194067 , Reply# 6   8/9/2012 at 17:11 (4,248 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194150 , Reply# 7   8/10/2012 at 10:30 (4,247 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 194161 , Reply# 8   8/10/2012 at 12:55 (4,247 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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Post# 194171 , Reply# 9   8/10/2012 at 15:02 (4,247 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194191 , Reply# 10   8/10/2012 at 18:33 (4,247 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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No, Garrett. This was the DeLuxe Model 63. It was the "first" upright Hoover to have a completely disposable inner paper bag. The Citation (Model 64), in a taupe/tan color scheme followed in, I believe 1956. It had a vinyl outer jacket with a zipper and the same Type C disposable bag that debuted on the 63. The 63 still had a sleek nylon blue outer jacket, tapered at the bellows below. It differed from the 62, the model prior to the 63, in that the 62 still had the "Handi-Sac", an emptyable, (is that a word?) reusable inner paper bag not unlike the Models 60 and 61 of the 40's. Hoover first tried this concept in 1929, but got in trouble with AirWay, so they shelved the idea until 1940 when the Model 60 debuted.
My profile picture is a Model 62 that featured the Handi-Sac.
Below is a picture of my old Model 63... |
Post# 194409 , Reply# 11   8/12/2012 at 09:08 (4,246 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194442 , Reply# 13   8/12/2012 at 15:40 (4,245 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 194446 , Reply# 14   8/12/2012 at 15:53 (4,245 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Thank you John
I am having trouble getting the correct colour match for the base at the moment. That is interesting what you said about the current IE higher voltage,WHY interesting is because the Hoover 912 had its switch in the handle here in SA. I have been on the lookout for one of these for ever, WE are moving our business to bigger premises and I am planing a vacuum cleaner time warp |
Post# 194455 , Reply# 15   8/12/2012 at 16:38 (4,245 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 194502 , Reply# 16   8/12/2012 at 22:34 (4,245 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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1926700 -
I HATED that carpet, mostly because I hated that room. It was upstairs, almost completely unheated and uncooled. It had hideous pink walls (last painted in the 40's), and that horrible red carpet (not tacked down - you had to be careful to not get too close to the edges with a revolving brush). I had big plans for it, none of which came to pass before I sold the house. It was the site of the 2001 visit by members who came to Portland for the convention that year. We had lots of fun.
But I see that carpet in my nightmares.....J |
Post# 194503 , Reply# 17   8/12/2012 at 22:36 (4,245 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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Post# 194504 , Reply# 18   8/12/2012 at 22:37 (4,245 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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Post# 194512 , Reply# 19   8/12/2012 at 23:22 (4,245 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 194520 , Reply# 20   8/13/2012 at 00:33 (4,245 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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John -
The Citation bag is in good condition, though it is starting to fray slightly at the top edges. These bags were rather fragile, made of a blend of materials not as durable as the Convertible bags. They seem to be partly brittle plastic.
These pictures were taken at a friend's place in Northern AZ, where my vacuums were about to go into temporary storage. I took pictures of them all just before storage. When I went to retrieve them last year and bring them to Tucson, I was SO glad to see them again after a year of being in storage. This particular Citation was found for me by my friend (and our early club member) Mike Pupek. I've had it for about 20 years. |
Post# 194523 , Reply# 21   8/13/2012 at 01:34 (4,245 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 194533 , Reply# 22   8/13/2012 at 04:46 (4,245 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Hi Gareth
Great find, I know it will clean up lovely :) That sticker shows that this cleaner passed through the same vac shop/service centre as my 4006 (yellow Ranger). From the introduction of the 612/119 ranges the UK versions of Hoovers (and at this time SA was controlled from Perivale, not North Canton) all had cables mounted on the outside of the handle, foot switch. You may not have noticed it but US cleaners have the cable hooks on the left (looking from the front of the machine) and UK on the right. Although this is specualtion it may have been something to do with the attached extract about a campaign to save materials and labour costs, which the UK version certainly did over the US version. Also the same handle was used for the 119 & 612 and of course the cable hooks could not be on the left as it would have conflicted with the bag. Al |
Post# 194641 , Reply# 23   8/13/2012 at 14:40 (4,244 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I have just taken the poor thing apart to start working on it, Infact as I am typing this the metal base is in my industrial dishwasher we use to clean up vacuums to prepair it for paint stripping and then a fresh coat of paint.
Is there any one who may have a Blue bumper strip I could buy from them, this one is badly cracked although in one piece. I would love to get a nice looking one. The bag zipper has had it too and the bag looks like it will fall apart I may have a new one made.
I have taken pics and will upload all soon |
Post# 194655 , Reply# 24   8/13/2012 at 16:07 (4,244 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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John, the rug that Citation is sitting on is BEAUTIFUL! I certainly wouldn't be having any nightmares about that! On the contrary.
I know what you mean about poorly fitted carpets, I seem to remember in the house we were in before last the carpets came away at the skirting boards and many times got trapped in the brush roll. |
Post# 194703 , Reply# 25   8/13/2012 at 21:07 (4,244 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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Post# 194886 , Reply# 26   8/14/2012 at 17:09 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194888 , Reply# 27   8/14/2012 at 17:16 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194891 , Reply# 28   8/14/2012 at 17:20 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194893 , Reply# 29   8/14/2012 at 17:22 (4,243 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 194894 , Reply# 30   8/14/2012 at 17:22 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194896 , Reply# 31   8/14/2012 at 17:24 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194898 , Reply# 32   8/14/2012 at 17:25 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194900 , Reply# 33   8/14/2012 at 17:27 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194901 , Reply# 34   8/14/2012 at 17:31 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194902 , Reply# 35   8/14/2012 at 17:32 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194905 , Reply# 36   8/14/2012 at 17:35 (4,243 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 194907 , Reply# 37   8/14/2012 at 17:36 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 194926 , Reply# 38   8/14/2012 at 19:39 (4,243 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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Post# 194971 , Reply# 39   8/14/2012 at 22:33 (4,243 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 194997 , Reply# 40   8/15/2012 at 00:32 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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So true What i didn't tell you guys is that I rescued this one from the scrapyard were it would have been turned into razor blades.
What is interesting is that the base on this one is grey not soft blue like other 638's I am not sure if to have it sprayed blue or grey again, I am not a very grey person :) |
Post# 194999 , Reply# 41   8/15/2012 at 00:43 (4,243 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 195000 , Reply# 42   8/15/2012 at 00:44 (4,243 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 195004 , Reply# 43   8/15/2012 at 00:55 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 195005 , Reply# 44   8/15/2012 at 00:56 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 195012 , Reply# 45   8/15/2012 at 03:32 (4,243 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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How did the previous owner or user wreck the motor fan?Good one.And that poor machine-looked like it cleaned up a major renovating job.How was the suction fan?Was it broken or eroded?Very nice Hoover despite its abuse. |
Post# 195022 , Reply# 46   8/15/2012 at 05:36 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 195023 , Reply# 47   8/15/2012 at 05:37 (4,243 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 195026 , Reply# 48   8/15/2012 at 05:45 (4,243 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 195031 , Reply# 49   8/15/2012 at 06:11 (4,243 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 195035 , Reply# 50   8/15/2012 at 06:16 (4,243 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)   |   | |
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"Pitted"-Not damaged---after all that-renovation cleaning the fan is OK-shows the TOUGHNESS of the original metal Hoover fans!!But you wonder how the motor cooler fan got broken-never seen that. |
Post# 195036 , Reply# 51   8/15/2012 at 06:20 (4,243 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 195217 , Reply# 52   8/15/2012 at 17:02 (4,242 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 195219 , Reply# 53   8/15/2012 at 17:06 (4,242 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 195220 , Reply# 54   8/15/2012 at 17:10 (4,242 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)   |   | |
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Post# 197520 , Reply# 56   8/26/2012 at 15:32 (4,231 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 241215 , Reply# 57   7/21/2013 at 12:50 (3,902 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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