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Hoover Convertible with no model # stamp |
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Post# 192969   8/3/2012 at 10:38 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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After looking for years, I bought an all original Hoover Convertible with the metal body that I have wanted. It is in excellent condition so I am only doing a mild restoration and upgrading it. I know that most of these Convertibles share the same parts, so I have had no problem finding what I need for it, but found it very curious that is has no actual model number stamped in it.
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Post# 192974 , Reply# 1   8/3/2012 at 11:03 (4,255 days old) by ncovert (Grove City, PA)   |   | |
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Can we see more pics of it? (including the hood and bag) |
Post# 192976 , Reply# 2   8/3/2012 at 11:09 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 192978 , Reply# 3   8/3/2012 at 11:13 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 192980 , Reply# 4   8/3/2012 at 11:21 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 192981 , Reply# 5   8/3/2012 at 11:22 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 192982 , Reply# 6   8/3/2012 at 11:24 (4,255 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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That is a model 4047,They ran from 1973-to 1975.It was more of a bottom-of-line model,Running around 40$,Or 170$ today.I own on myself,Although mine is "Cosmeticly challanged".
Here's a video of my 4047. P:S-The video is old,I should update it soon. -Alex. CLICK HERE TO GO TO super-sweeper's LINK |
Post# 192983 , Reply# 7   8/3/2012 at 11:25 (4,255 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 192984 , Reply# 8   8/3/2012 at 11:25 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 192985 , Reply# 9   8/3/2012 at 11:28 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 192986 , Reply# 10   8/3/2012 at 11:34 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 192988 , Reply# 11   8/3/2012 at 11:42 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 192991 , Reply# 12   8/3/2012 at 11:52 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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I love waiting as new parts come to my home. I am replacing the brushes, brushroll bearings ( which now have a plastic washer so I could toss the felt ones), brushroll end caps, bag collar ring, bellows ( found white ), top fill tube, bag spring, handle screws/nuts and plate ( just to make it more solid ) and have new belts and Q HEPA bags trimmed and ready.
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Post# 192994 , Reply# 13   8/3/2012 at 11:59 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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.......wiping down with Clorox wipes and spraying Greased Lightening inside both ends of the bag as the brown color washed down the drain and IMMEDIATELY rinsed thoroughly with warm water and hung to dry. I kept the cleaner away from the bag lettering. Love that this Convertible has the original matching cord and plug too. Can't wait to get it done and turn it on for the first time. Going through the motor next, so I will be asking you Hoover guys questions. Have always wanted to do a Hoover Convertible motor.
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Post# 192996 , Reply# 14   8/3/2012 at 12:02 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 193038 , Reply# 15   8/3/2012 at 13:45 (4,255 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 193081 , Reply# 16   8/3/2012 at 15:29 (4,255 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR)   |   | |
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Post# 193114 , Reply# 17   8/3/2012 at 19:06 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 193118 , Reply# 18   8/3/2012 at 19:32 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 193121 , Reply# 20   8/3/2012 at 19:50 (4,255 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 193282 , Reply# 21   8/4/2012 at 20:27 (4,254 days old) by rainbowjoel (Dexter NM)   |   | |
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Its beautiful. I can't to see it all fix up and hear it running. |
Post# 193289 , Reply# 22   8/4/2012 at 20:39 (4,254 days old) by vacu-finder ()   |   | |
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The Siamese are the most curious characters. Extremely intelligent they are. |
Post# 193312 , Reply# 23   8/5/2012 at 01:28 (4,254 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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.......and have to be the center of attention. My two boys are actually Tonkinese ( a cross between Siamese and Burmese ). They are like little dogs that play rough, follow me everywhere and love to be held and lay on me, including horsey rides on my back. The main difference between a Siamese and a Tonkinese is that the Siamese will rip the drapes of the wall when you leave for work, where the Tonkinese will just give the drapes resentful looks all day. They are both great breeds. Tonkinese are an awesome breed.
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Post# 193313 , Reply# 24   8/5/2012 at 01:38 (4,254 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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.......I found and ordered some awesome Hoover Y HEPA carbon bags that will help take away any slight odor from this beautiful orange/peach colored vinyl Hoover bag. :)
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Post# 193317 , Reply# 25   8/5/2012 at 01:52 (4,254 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 193318 , Reply# 26   8/5/2012 at 01:56 (4,254 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 193319 , Reply# 27   8/5/2012 at 02:06 (4,254 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 194172 , Reply# 28   8/10/2012 at 15:05 (4,248 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa)   |   | |
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Post# 194205 , Reply# 29   8/10/2012 at 19:33 (4,248 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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.......I will install it and see how it works. I still want to take the motor out and clean the air path and check everything over. After researching I probably will not do anything to the motor bearings as replacement seems the best route if all is not right. Judging by the overall condition, it should be fine. Have not even turned it on yet. :)
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Post# 194213 , Reply# 30   8/10/2012 at 20:19 (4,248 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Received my new bag spring today. Made attempts ordering Hoover part numbers 38335006 and 38336014 to no avail. The Electrolux Eureka Sanitaire springs are similar (48429) and will not put high stress on a vintage vinyl bag. (It amazes me how many companies will list false pictures of parts and also parts that are no longer available that are current listings).
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Post# 194332 , Reply# 31   8/11/2012 at 15:40 (4,247 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 194333 , Reply# 32   8/11/2012 at 15:41 (4,247 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 194334 , Reply# 33   8/11/2012 at 15:43 (4,247 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 194335 , Reply# 34   8/11/2012 at 15:46 (4,247 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 194524 , Reply# 35   8/13/2012 at 01:41 (4,246 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)   |   | |
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Post# 194549 , Reply# 36   8/13/2012 at 07:32 (4,245 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 194717 , Reply# 37   8/13/2012 at 22:05 (4,245 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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.......before I bought my NIB sealed set. I applaud the maker of this vid and give my thanks. AWESOME! The end is cute :)
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Post# 196775 , Reply# 38   8/22/2012 at 20:12 (4,236 days old) by fan-of-fans (USA)   |   | |
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Post# 196882 , Reply# 39   8/23/2012 at 11:15 (4,235 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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You are absolutely right. I did not even notice that until you pointed that out. I can say the box was sealed since new and that the converter red/pink lettering left a small stain on the top of the brush from years of storage. It must have been a smaller version. I had the larger "what I call a floor brush" like you, and a red rubber toothed furniture brush and round dusting brush, so this one is new to me. I had a tool bag with the larger floor brush. Interesting! Good eye!
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Post# 196886 , Reply# 40   8/23/2012 at 11:32 (4,235 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 196887 , Reply# 41   8/23/2012 at 11:37 (4,235 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 196889 , Reply# 42   8/23/2012 at 11:45 (4,235 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 196906 , Reply# 43   8/23/2012 at 15:01 (4,235 days old) by mieles7 (TX)   |   | |
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Post# 197034 , Reply# 45   8/24/2012 at 09:20 (4,234 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 197035 , Reply# 46   8/24/2012 at 09:27 (4,234 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 197193 , Reply# 47   8/24/2012 at 21:06 (4,234 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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I have to admit that I think the tools that had the logo were from a loose set. I know you know your history. I just wish my four piece box snack had the Hoover logo on it, the correct tool names on the box and a smooth molded edge where the brush fits into the nozzle, because I like them and are proud that they are Hoover. :)
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Post# 197194 , Reply# 48   8/24/2012 at 21:10 (4,234 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 200647 , Reply# 49   9/14/2012 at 05:56 (4,214 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 200648 , Reply# 50   9/14/2012 at 05:59 (4,214 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 200649 , Reply# 51   9/14/2012 at 06:01 (4,214 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 201101 , Reply# 52   9/18/2012 at 09:17 (4,209 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Where is Hoover information on the U4047 ? I have read that this model had a high performance motor, but as I am going through the motor and replacing the top bearing and looking up how to clean and lubricate the lower bearing, all the motor parts and part numbers are the same as older Convertibles.
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Post# 201102 , Reply# 53   9/18/2012 at 09:22 (4,209 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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I have read older threads about servicing the bottom bearing, and was wondering if anybody has had personal experience with cleaning and greasing the bottom bearing and what products you have used? I really do not care to use gasoline as I have heard from talking to friends, and want to make sure I am getting all the grit out and am using a good and proper grease for the bearing. Any input will be great and add to the thread for others. :)
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Post# 202890 , Reply# 54   10/6/2012 at 15:37 (4,191 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 202892 , Reply# 55   10/6/2012 at 15:42 (4,191 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 202893 , Reply# 56   10/6/2012 at 15:44 (4,191 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 202894 , Reply# 57   10/6/2012 at 15:47 (4,191 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 202896 , Reply# 58   10/6/2012 at 15:56 (4,191 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Cleaned everything. New top bearing, brushes, screw kit for bearing, and a three hole bearing lower motor housing to change to a sealed bearing. ( Waiting on a new fan spacer and two washers for the conversion). Waxed the hood and furniture guard several times to remove surface imperfections, condition and shine and put bag unit together with the top fill assembly and Y carbon HEPA bag.
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Post# 202897 , Reply# 59   10/6/2012 at 16:05 (4,191 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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MADDENING ! Having them finally loosen and come out....... PRICELESS ! Very lightly sanded the commutator and leads as well. Cleaned out the armature and field iron with compressed air. ( Waiting on the new field iron bolts to change to the sealed bearing housing. Going to save the four hole bearing housing as well ).
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Post# 202898 , Reply# 60   10/6/2012 at 16:18 (4,191 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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After a hot sanitizing and a light spray of rust preventative paint on the inside and on the agitator shaft, I replaced the brushes, thrust washers, bearings and thread guards. The newer bearings with their own delrin washers are a nice upgrade and the whole unit turns fluidly. There are right hand and left had helix brushes with these beater bar agitators and you have to order accordingly. Just an FYI.
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Post# 202912 , Reply# 61   10/6/2012 at 20:06 (4,191 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 204114 , Reply# 63   10/18/2012 at 12:08 (4,179 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 204115 , Reply# 64   10/18/2012 at 12:10 (4,179 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 204116 , Reply# 65   10/18/2012 at 12:12 (4,179 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 204117 , Reply# 66   10/18/2012 at 12:14 (4,179 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 204118 , Reply# 67   10/18/2012 at 12:15 (4,179 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 204120 , Reply# 69   10/18/2012 at 12:19 (4,179 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 204121 , Reply# 70   10/18/2012 at 12:21 (4,179 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 204161 , Reply# 71   10/18/2012 at 19:01 (4,179 days old) by rainbowjoel (Dexter NM)   |   | |
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Its Beautiful! |
Post# 204167 , Reply# 72   10/18/2012 at 20:38 (4,179 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 204169 , Reply# 73   10/18/2012 at 20:57 (4,179 days old) by compactelectra (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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Good job. And thanks for all the detailed instructions and step-through. The beauty of Hoovers of that era (and KitchenAid dishwashers for that matter) was that even if you bought a lower-end model, you still got the quality and basic mechanics that made the brand what it was. In other words, buying up bought more bells and whistles. Not any change in quality or performance. Congratulations!
As you can probably tell, I am going through a renewed interest of Hoover Convertibles. Was just down in the basement running the 69. Those a great machines. |
Post# 204171 , Reply# 74   10/18/2012 at 21:18 (4,179 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 260312 , Reply# 76   12/21/2013 at 10:42 (3,750 days old) by pnluxconvlvr (Georgia)   |   | |
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Post# 260315 , Reply# 77   12/21/2013 at 12:07 (3,750 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California)   |   | |
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Fantastic job. Been doint this long enough now to know how important condition is to these old vacs. Getting one set up just right, like this one, is really satisfying to see. I tend to save basket cases from oblivion and make them fully functional again...trying to get over that and start with something in better condition.
Also you seem to be stressing quality over quantity which i am learning the virtues of as well. Thanks for posting. |
Post# 260357 , Reply# 78   12/21/2013 at 21:19 (3,750 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)   |   | |
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