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Question about Aerus Vacuums and Cyclonic Suction. |
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| Post# 185925   6/17/2012 at 06:28 (339 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)     |   | |
![]() Can someone explain to me how a bagged vacuum can have cyclonic suction?
I notice on the Aerus website that it says they have cyclonic suction which maintains peak airflow. How does it work? How long ago was this implemented in their vacuums? PS: In my Epic 6500 I did vacuum up about 2/3 cup of dry rice, but I wasn't sure if I should do it with a partial full bag, or do it at the beginning, so I did it with the current bag I've been using and it seems to have helped some. I also read where you can vacuum a small amount of fresh dry coffee grounds to keep the bag from developing an odor, so I did that, and it smelled like coffee brewing while I was vacuuming. I have always heard that coffee is good for refrigerator odors, so I thought I'd try it | ||
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Post# 185931 , Reply# 1   6/17/2012 at 08:00 (339 days old) by smith (North Carolina)     |
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If you look inside the bag chamber you will notice ridges which prevent the bag from touching the sides of the chamber. This allows the air to spin around the bag thus forming a cyclone action inside the bag. As for how long they have been like that, it has been over 30 some years. | ||
Post# 186022 , Reply# 2   6/17/2012 at 20:13 (338 days old) by Trebor (Fort Wayne, IN)     |
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The cyclonic action in the bag of a canister machine was inv Electrolux copied the concept (NOT the actual design) when the patent expired. This would have been with the model LX. The salesmen used to have a clear plastic demo plate to put over the cloth bag. Pressing the switch on the inside of the bag cover would start the machine and stuff inside the bag would swirl. | ||
Post# 186064 , Reply# 3   6/18/2012 at 11:27 (338 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK)     |
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![]() I thought that dust spins naturally in canister/tub vacuums as well though. I've seen it when I used to take the hose off my old Vax canister and watch the dust spin around in the round base. Or is that perhaps because it has a round base in which the dust flies around in circles before it finally dies down/attaches to the sides of the bag. | ||
| Post# 186199 , Reply# 5   6/18/2012 at 20:25 (337 days old) by joshdonnell (Denton ,Texas.)     |   | |
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I Dont think its a joke | ||
| Post# 186219 , Reply# 6   6/19/2012 at 02:29 (337 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)     |   | |
![]() I think that what was confusing me, because if it had cyclonic suction, I would think that the dirt wouldn't get stuck at the entrance of the bag. I can see how vacuuming of rice would knock some of that dirt to the back of the bag. It actually did seem to help some. Not sure how it would help doing it first thing when you put a new bag in, but later on, when the suction starts to weaken. You GOTTA try putting some coffee grounds in also, it smells good if you like the smell of coffee, plus it absorbs odors at the same time.
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Post# 186221 , Reply# 7   6/19/2012 at 05:08 (337 days old) by piano_god (British Columbia, Canada)     |
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All vacuum cleaners have some form of "cyclonic action", and that's regardless if they're bagged or bagless. In a bagged vacuum cleaner, it's created by the air entering the bag in a stream of high velocity and its force pulls the areas of lower velocity back into its stream. This process repeats, but reduces as the bag is filled.
That said, "cyclonic action" is definitely not the same as "cyclonic seperation". | ||
| Post# 186226 , Reply# 9   6/19/2012 at 06:17 (337 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)     |   | |
still must be working![]() Because I have read posters on the forums say they picked up a used curb vacuum or something and the bag was packed completely full and as hard as a brick! It makes you wonder how that's even possible when the airflow diminishes so much when the bag isn't even nearly full. I've personally never attempted to keep vacuuming until a bag is packed full or even half full, but it does show that the bag vacuums do KEEP WORKING even though the airflow has diminished
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Post# 186229 , Reply# 11   6/19/2012 at 07:31 (337 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ)     |
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I have used Aerus/Real Electrolux ![]() | ||
| Post# 186245 , Reply# 15   6/19/2012 at 11:48 (336 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)     |   | |
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| Post# 186412 , Reply# 18   6/20/2012 at 01:15 (336 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)     |   | |
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| Post# 186423 , Reply# 20   6/20/2012 at 06:14 (336 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)     |   | |
Gotcha![]() I suspected such, but wasn't 100 percent sure.
I'm actually glad, because I bought a box of 100 on Ebay for 36.50 (I think), about a year ago when I bought my Epic 6500 so I have P L E N T Y! I think that electrolux C bags have got to be the cheapest bags (cost wise) of any vacuum bag on the market. I don't know of any other style bag where you can buy so MANY for that cheap, which is why I don't have a problem changing them so often. | ||
Post# 186567 , Reply# 22   6/20/2012 at 21:26 (335 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ)     |
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I also toured the plant around![]() | ||
Post# 186571 , Reply# 23   6/20/2012 at 23:03 (335 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Minneapolis, MN)     |
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![]() Pictures from my tour of the Electrolux Factory that is being discussed above... you can see the big rolls of the bag paper in one of the photos. That line wasn't up and running on the day I took the tour. :-(
CLICK HERE TO GO TO HooverCelebrity's LINK | ||
Post# 186581 , Reply# 24   6/21/2012 at 01:41 (335 days old) by goadie12 (Edmoton, Alberta, Canada)     |
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@Fred | ||
| Post# 186612 , Reply# 25   6/21/2012 at 09:14 (335 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)     |   | |
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Post# 186760 , Reply# 27   6/22/2012 at 13:47 (333 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Minneapolis, MN)     |
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![]() Sorry about that! Searching the off-topic forum is something that only upgraded/paid VCCC members have the capability to do. I had forgotten that.
Here are the pictures again, though -- as they are worth having in a searchable forum.
Exterior shot of the plant.
Me with the sign.
In the lobby!
With a sign in the lobby!
Me with the lobby display of current products!
Lux Commercial Upright Assembly
Canister department -- love the racks of hoses!
Canisters on the line
Centralux Assembly!
Rolls of paper for the bags, and the bag assembly machine in the background...which I unfortunately didn't get to see running. :-(
In the warehouse. Now for the good stuff... we finished our tour of the factory, and walked to another part of the plant, closer to the front of the building. We maybe went upstairs, and through a door into a hallway lined with these shelves -- filled with all of their cleaners! It was a narrow space, and I don't think these cleaners were all originally displayed here, perhaps they came from another facility when it was closed. Nonetheless, I got some pictures of their displays!
Display #1
Display #2
Display #3 -- by this time Electrolux had acquired Tri-Star, and I seem to recall that they were manufacturing the Tri-Star cleaners in this facility, too.
Display #4 -- Canadian Machines got billing, too! | ||
| Post# 186764 , Reply# 28   6/22/2012 at 15:14 (333 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)     |   | |
Wow...thanks : D![]() | ||
Post# 186914 , Reply# 29   6/23/2012 at 15:17 (332 days old) by luxman107 (Deland Fl)     |
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Absolutely awesome pictures. How were you so lucky to get a tour. Would love to go on one. | ||
Post# 186938 , Reply# 30   6/23/2012 at 21:31 (332 days old) by kenkart (Mocksville, NC)     |
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The sad part is! Im not sure...Jimmy chime in here....but I believe that big factory is now gone, moved to Mexico. | ||
Post# 186947 , Reply# 31   6/23/2012 at 23:05 (332 days old) by goadie12 (Edmoton, Alberta, Canada)     |
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@fred | ||
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Comes to the Rescue!