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Firestone Canister Vacuums?
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Post# 185123   6/10/2012 at 20:36 (4,334 days old) by nes ()        

Has anyone ever seen a firestone canister vac before? I was cruising ebay and stumbled upon it - Ive been trying to collect electrolux vacuums, but this one really caught my attention. I've tried doing a google search, and not much comes up (seems like the seller states this as well).

Anyone have any insight? I guess the plywood box strikes me curious to most, I thought most vacuums were sold in cardboard boxes????

I'm thinking about bidding, and just not sure what its worth :/ Idk, maybe I'll stick to my electrolux vacs. Just curious because I don't think Ive seen a firestone vac before in general.


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Post# 185155 , Reply# 1   6/11/2012 at 06:42 (4,334 days old) by hoover51 (Greenfield Ohio)        
Firestone Vacuum Cleaner

Hi, this vacuum cleaner was sold by the Firestone tire company. Can remember as a kid seeing this vacuum on display inside the show room. This is a very rare machine.

Mike


Post# 185165 , Reply# 2   6/11/2012 at 08:15 (4,334 days old) by nes ()        
firestone rarity?

Mike,

I agree, it does appear to be a very rare machine. Any idea how long firestone made vacuums? I can only find one firestone vacuum even sold on ebay, and it dates back some time ago. I'll add the link. Looks like it sold 02/12 for about $125.

I think these canister types are more collectible though - especially since this one has the manual.

Does anyone think the plywood box is original? It does appear to have some kind of paper that used to be tacked on the inside from the pics, but Im not for sure.

Any idea what this thing will go for? Looks like its received a bid already.


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Post# 185169 , Reply# 3   6/11/2012 at 09:32 (4,334 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)        
Firestone tank

This is from 50s by Douglas and was also sold as Kingston.Looks very nice.I would guess box is skilled homemade based on storage chests of the time sometimes sold with vacs.

Post# 185171 , Reply# 4   6/11/2012 at 09:54 (4,334 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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I had a Firestone (not sure if it went in the fire at the moment). It was the cannister model below. I've also seen alot of the tank type ones on ebay, though not in the last year. Normally they have gone between 10 and 50. Also you should note that, while it has the book, one wand and the rug nozzle are missing and the parts arent in that great a shape. It would also have originally come with an accessory kit like in the picture. I'm inclined to think that the box was hand made too.
Doug


Post# 185173 , Reply# 5   6/11/2012 at 10:04 (4,334 days old) by kenkart ()        
Definately!

Built by Kingston, the cannister Doug shows above went on to later become the Saniway, from 1960-1976.

Post# 185175 , Reply# 6   6/11/2012 at 10:39 (4,334 days old) by nes ()        

50's makes sense, but surely with the rarity its worth more than $10-50? Not sure why that quote is so low, compared to the last firestone I linked that sold over a year ago. I offered $75 to the seller, but they said they have 11 watchers after 1 day, and quite a few questions.

I've checked many other ebay tracking sites, forum history, google searches, and cannot find a single sale of this item! Does anyone have a link or knowledge about it?

I guess only the manual holds more info?


Post# 185246 , Reply# 7   6/11/2012 at 23:28 (4,333 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Price all depends on who is interested. They are a relatively unkown machine so not considered by alot to be as collectable as some of the rare models of the more well known brands (eg an Electrolux T). If I remember correctly the ones I was refering to had only one or two bids on them. I only paid $5 for the one I pictured above as no one had ever heard of a Firestone vacuum around here.

Doug


Post# 185339 , Reply# 8   6/12/2012 at 22:31 (4,332 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        
Third iteration of the DOUGLAS Supreme Vacuum Cleaner

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This Douglas-made futuristic 'torpedo' was also badged as The Monitor (Deluxe) with the Boots Boy logo Medallion  on one side. I have three of the Monitor model TAC-1's as well as the Firestone model 5-F-50 version. From these have almost the complete set of accessories.

The Douglas Manufacturing Division of the Kingston Products Corporation was based in Bronson Michigan south of Battle Creek, the factory situated on Hiway MI-12 - the Old Chicago Road.

 

An elegantly simple sculpture in cast aluminum & Hammertone, the sinuous handle is one cast polished piece running the length of the cleaner.

 

Some variations I have noted between the Kingston, Firestone and Monitor, and these may all relate to the specific year of manufacture:

 

Firestone's version seems to be the low end model, with painted side trims and a pale grey/blue allover hammertone finish.

 

The Kingston I have seen in both low end and high end versions in which the side trim is either dull stamped aluminum to match the gray paint or fully decked out with gleaming polished trims against a more vivid blue hammertone.

Kingston (Douglas) in the 1950s redesigned the machine end caps and simplified the handle. I believe Hans has one.

 

I need one, too.

 

Monitor was the company name of a very successful New York Appliance salesman agent for RCA Corp in the Streamline late 1930s  who named his own offshoot Corporation after the Monitor top refrigerator which begat his personal fortune. He built 5 glass & Monel metal office buildings w showrooms of various futuristic themes in Chicago World Fair radio styles that featured Streamline Moderne household appliances, including a portable wringer washer, decorative glass disk table clocks, electric irons, radios...and the Monitor cylinder vacuum cleaner, clearly sourced from the Douglas Corporation. This was pre-WW2.

 

The first Monitor Tac-1 had lightweight aluminum 'J' wands painted in vivid blue hammertone to match the cleaner, as were the cast aluminum tools. the painted aluminum end caps had the raised continuation of the polished handle polished out to extend the theme into spear tips.

The first models also came with a hinged exhaust grill lid. Later Monitors and Kingstons eliminated this exhaust grill as well as the cast hinge fitting on the motor cap.

 

The hose fitting is sized unlike any other manufacture's and I have found no other hose that will connect to the large port and large bore woven hose. However the tool is end standard as are the friction-fit wands which have single visual dimples to line them up in the 'S' configuration.

 

All Douglas machines had powerful motors with double fans. Mine pull +70" and the Firestone pulls almost 80".

The cord was extra long and supple as a wet noodle, like the early Electrolux plug-in cords. Unfortunately the cord was not removable and there were no cord wrap hooks so the cord had to be coiled and draped on the floor, as it was too large to be tucked into the handle loop, as you could on other machines of the time. And of course it had to be dragged across floors and carpets on it's streamline integrated runners.

 

 

 


Post# 185342 , Reply# 9   6/12/2012 at 22:35 (4,332 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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A bevy of Douglas Monitors


Post# 185343 , Reply# 10   6/12/2012 at 22:37 (4,332 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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The Monitor Corp BOOTS BOY logo medallion, which appeared plated, stamped or decaled on every Monitor Appliance.


Post# 185344 , Reply# 11   6/12/2012 at 22:38 (4,332 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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The Boots Boy table clock


Post# 185345 , Reply# 12   6/12/2012 at 22:45 (4,332 days old) by HooverCelebrity (Germany)        

Very interesting, Dave!  Thanks for the posts... Any chance of getting a shot of the unique hose end of which you speak?


Post# 185347 , Reply# 13   6/12/2012 at 22:49 (4,332 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Monitor portable washer. The wringer handle removes and the rollers flip over into the stainless steel tub. A motor in the base drives the disc agitator via a belt drive.The drainboard is also a snap on lid, making for a very nice Streamline plant stand. :-)


Post# 185350 , Reply# 14   6/12/2012 at 23:09 (4,332 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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This is the best picture of the slightly tapered 1 & 7/8" outside diameter coupler I have at the moment. It has two spring tab latches and inserts into the matched taper end cap bores.

I also have the matched blue rubber dusting brush.

 

The Douglas is a beautiful machine, all the more so for it's powerful quiet motor and strong suction - the equal of the much later, fabled Canadian Electrolux 80 series.


Post# 185367 , Reply# 15   6/13/2012 at 07:11 (4,332 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Oops again, my feebling mind. I was drawing on memory. Google to the rescue!

 

This is the Rex Cole info, the founder of Monitor. He began as a top salesman for General Electric, not RCA.



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Post# 185371 , Reply# 16   6/13/2012 at 08:22 (4,332 days old) by kenkart ()        
Kingston!

No I dont have one..."I wish!!!" they are RARE here!

Post# 185435 , Reply# 17   6/13/2012 at 19:43 (4,331 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Three Monitor Hose Coupler ends.

first version braided hose is the center one with the molded rubber strain relief.

second version is on the left and the right hose has a vinyl nylon web reinforced replacement hose.

The original hose retains as much suction as the bojack vinyl. :-)

 

The outside taper, while subtle, is very real. I have tried to fit the hose to a vast number of cylinders in the collection and it's just 'no go'.

The barrel inserts rather deeply, snug to the black Bakelite ring & latch buttons.


Post# 185436 , Reply# 18   6/13/2012 at 20:04 (4,331 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada)        

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Even the hose wand ends are unique.

 

dusting, upholstery & crevice tools fit inside the swiveling  barrel but only one J wand is tapered to fit inside. The lower J wand has a single peg; the floor nozzle and wall brush insert upside-down on the outside and swivel around while the aluminum upholstery nozzle is a friction fit only on the upper wand section and hose end. It cannot fit over or inside the lower J wand end.

 

And what's left of the hammertone on the lightweight aluminum J wands.

 

The later chromed steel wands are as heavy as they sound.


Post# 185908 , Reply# 19   6/17/2012 at 00:23 (4,328 days old) by nes ()        
GREAT INFORMATION!

Thank you so much, this information is fantastic as it appears you are a vac guru!

The coupler hose is something extremely unique it seems, and from the seller's listing, you can see the tabs from where it is in the vacuum, so it appears the original hose is there too.

Do you have any of these original vac manuals dave?

Amazing collection by the way. Im extremely jealous!



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