Thread Number: 17150
What Does Anyone Think Of The Hoover Turbopower 2? |
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Post# 184064   6/3/2012 at 14:19 (4,342 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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I hear from a couple of people that the Turbopower 2 is such a bad cleaner, it is not a patch on the turbopower 1 but it was hoovers first clean air upright and still cleaned very well in my opinion. It is way better that a purepower even though a purepower has more suction. I have heard people say that nobody likes the turbo 2, they are poorly made and just terrible cleaners. I strongly disagree. What do you guys think? |
Post# 184066 , Reply# 1   6/3/2012 at 14:32 (4,342 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 184068 , Reply# 2   6/3/2012 at 14:51 (4,342 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Well... here's my tuppence worth - I was a big fan of the TP2 and 3 series, even the base model TP2's are good and I'd take them over any Purepower, if offered. Here are my pros and cons of the TP2/3.
I wouldn't say personally that the TP2 is a bad cleaner and I don't know anyone who mocks them, personally. Infact I've seen more TP2's still in use than a lot of other Hoover uprights and owners keep them because they're cheap to maintain and do the job intended.
Pros/Advantages;
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Post# 184143 , Reply# 4   6/4/2012 at 01:52 (4,341 days old) by vacuummorgan (Chagford Devon England )   |   | |
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some times with mine when the head goes on the floor the brush bar just cuts out then when i lift it up again it stats spining again don't no if it was hoovers fault or the women i got it from |
Post# 184144 , Reply# 5   6/4/2012 at 01:53 (4,341 days old) by vacuummorgan (Chagford Devon England )   |   | |
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some times with mine when the head goes on the floor the brush bar just cuts out then when i lift it up again it stats spining again don't no if it was hoovers fault or the women i got it from |
Post# 184150 , Reply# 6   6/4/2012 at 03:35 (4,341 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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That is the drive belt at fault. The belt is old and stretched and needs replacing. It will be fine after you change the belt. |
Post# 184390 , Reply# 7   6/5/2012 at 13:19 (4,340 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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HI VR et al.
In all my years I think I only ever had one clog with the narrow bore hoses on the TP2 models, and that was with a rather large piece of ripped paper envelope. I found more success with this type of hose compared to the one on the TP1 based "Total" models with the hose connection to the side and would need manually switching off when using the hose in the upright position. The one aspect I adored about the TP1's was that the wheels at the rear were just so much better. Also, on the TP3 model, I'm sure the T shape upholstery tool with lint pickers had one row of thick red brushes on one side and lint pickers on the other. Lesser Hoover models just got twin lint picker strips and the tool could also be slipped onto the end of the crevice tool/scabbard tool due to two channels of plastic inside the main dust channel of the upholstery tool. |
Post# 184511 , Reply# 9   6/6/2012 at 05:28 (4,339 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 184518 , Reply# 10   6/6/2012 at 08:38 (4,339 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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I like the narrow hose on the turbo 2, having the wide purepower (or pureshit) lol, hose on a turbo 2 just looks so silly and way to big for the machine. It would of also been nice if they had put two extension wands on the turbo 2 and kept the short crevixe tool, as you have to use the long crevice tool as another extension wand and useing the tools on the end of the crevice tool, or even just the end of the hose, it makes a loud pssssssshhhhhh noise because of the little channel in the tools. Though the long and short crevice tools have there uses. |
Post# 185255 , Reply# 12   6/12/2012 at 08:08 (4,333 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 185264 , Reply# 13   6/12/2012 at 11:24 (4,333 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Alex, is your whole argument for not liking to use the long crevice tool as an extension tube just "because it makes a loud pssshhhhhh noise"? Do you really think your average vacuum cleaner user gives a toss whether or not it makes a "pssshhhh" noise as long as it does a good job? There are far too many people around these parts that do not consider the market, target audience and average users of old vacuums when making an opinion on them. Try and consider what your Mum would've chosen in a new vacuum - I find putting myself in the mind frame of the average day to day vacuum user helps a lot when forming opinions on such things :)
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Post# 185294 , Reply# 15   6/12/2012 at 16:52 (4,333 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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The problem with copying though is that some brands only go as far to include the long extension tube with the tapered crevice end as the sole tube that comes with the upright vac. The Argos Value bagged upright suffers from that.
One point that I forgot to add about the Turbopower vacs that have the straight extension tube AND the scabbard long crevice is to give the tools an added stretch factor. I found it very useful to have, regardless of escaping noise, especially when cleaning dust off the top of picture frames. I could never go far enough with just one straight tube and the hose.
That however brings me onto another issue. The Sebo K1 may be an old vacuum, and whilst it may not look as streamlined as the Miele series, I can't stand using the short crevice tool on my Miele S4, S6 or older machines - far too noisy when used - the Sebo K1 has a proper long extension crevice which is super quiet. I wish brands really thought about the tools they make for their machines rather than just pass off what's been done before. Miele already improved the dusting brushes by replacing the old "clog-dependent" castle cut dusting brushes with proper long bristles; they should do the same with their crevice tool. |
Post# 185310 , Reply# 16   6/12/2012 at 19:00 (4,333 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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I just thought it would of made more sense to have one crevice tool and 2 extension tubes, because why do you need two crevice tools, really? It also doesn't feel very sturdy using the long crevice tool as another extension wand. If I was not a vacuum collector and just a general consumer I still wouldn't want that loud "pssshhhhhh" noise, because it hurts my ears and I think it would bother other people when I was using it. Although the turbopower 2 does make that noise and can get quite annoying when using the tools for a long period of time, it is worse on the new purepowers that really hisses and your ears are crying out for ear plugs! Alex. |
Post# 185364 , Reply# 18   6/13/2012 at 06:04 (4,332 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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I thought the Scabbard tool was better than the original crevice though - better for getting under car seats, in between the vents of cooker hoods and getting right down into the permanent filter entrance on tumble dryers. I agree sliding the T shape upholstery tool on the end was less successful no matter if the original tool had twin walls inside in which it would allow the top of the Scabbard to lock into. |
Post# 186082 , Reply# 19   6/18/2012 at 14:28 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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I saw this thread on my mobile phone and was absolutely fuming that I couldn't put my Tuppence worth in! But now I can.
As you may know, I own two Turbopowers - A 1994 Turbopower 1000 U2812 and a 1999 Turbopower 2 U2016, both of which I love dearly. Which do I prefer ? Now that's like asking a father to choose his favourite child - Ain't going to happen. Where do I start ? The new Turbopower range was quite possibly the best model HOOVER ever made. Lets think, before the Turbopower, we had the original Turbopower which was a dirty fan which meant great carpet cleaning, but as for using the hose (either fitted via a converter or on the Total systems, permanently fitted) the suction was absolutely awful. And of course, as Benny rightly said, they weren't the most durable of machines. The new Turbopower range (initially the Turbopower 2 Autosense [short lived - replaced by the 1000], Turbopower 2 [basic] and Turbopower 1000 [with Autosense]) was revolutionary. It had the brilliant activator brush roll which was known to be quite possibly the best yet, the carpet cleaning was poorer than the original, granted, but still damn good and what's more, the hose suction was immense! Plus it was a very attractive cleaner and had the practicality of large dust bags with the option of "Use Twice" bags or in later years, Permabag. Skipping forward in time briefly, the Purepower (the Turbopower's successor, a word which I use VERY loosely...) is widely known for its poor build quality, above all, its shoddy upright mechanism which allows the cleaner to lean further and further back with every use, until it eventually collapses and requires replacement. The Turbopower 1000, 2, 3 ranges did not have this problem AT ALL, or at least not in my experiences. Neither my Turbopower 1000 or Turbopower 2 have the slightest flicker of leaning. Another problem with Vacuum Cleaners of the Turbopower's time was poor handle quality, well, low and behold the new Turbopower range didn't have that problem either. So lets add this all up, great suction, great looks, great build quality, easy and inexpensive maintenance, impressive longevity... Hmm, not too bad... |
Post# 186084 , Reply# 20   6/18/2012 at 14:42 (4,327 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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"The new Turbopower range was quite possibly the best model HOOVER ever made"
There is so much wrong with this statement, I don't know where to begin. "The new Turbopower range (initially the Turbopower 2 Autosense [short lived - replaced by the 1000], Turbopower 2 [basic] and Turbopower 1000 [with Autosense]) was revolutionary" Hardly. Hoover were all behind the times. By the time the Turbopower 2 was launched in 1992, Electrolux, Panasonic and (to a lesser extent) Hitachi had been making high performing, clean air machines with strong hose suction and (in the case of Panasonic and Lux) on-board tools. Don't get me wrong, I do like the Turbopower 2 very much, but by no means do I agree that it was the best Hoover upright made. |
Post# 186086 , Reply# 21   6/18/2012 at 15:01 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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For all round performance, I would say it was the best.
It was the first HOOVER to have the mixture of good hose suction and good carpet cleaning, everything else had been one or the other. I'm not saying other manufacturers hadn't made cleaners as good/better, but in terms of HOOVERs, I believe it was the best. |
Post# 186087 , Reply# 22   6/18/2012 at 15:02 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186091 , Reply# 23   6/18/2012 at 15:27 (4,327 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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The only thing that was actually revolutionary on the Turbopower 2 (in my opinion) was the "Autosense device" Call me biased but I would have a Turbopower 2 over any of the clean airs on the market at the time, they were the easiest to use and clean really well for what they were in my opinion. I wouldn't not say it is the best Hoover upright ever made, the best Hoover upright ever made would have to be the turbomaster; I would have to suggest. |
Post# 186094 , Reply# 24   6/18/2012 at 15:38 (4,327 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Hi Jamie - ah, ok, I'm with you now.
Hoover's first clean air upright was the Convertible/Dial A Matic from the 1970's, which IMO out-performs a Turbo 2 hands down. "Call me biased but I would have a Turbopower 2 over any of the clean airs on the market at the time" Sorry Alex, I disagree. Although good, I'd sooner use a Panasonic 50 series cleaner. They were cheaper, had better suction power and groom the carpet pile better - the activator was never designed to go in a clean air machine. They also have the added feature of beater bar controls, cord rewind and a headlight. |
Post# 186095 , Reply# 25   6/18/2012 at 15:39 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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The truly best HOOVER upright was the Senior/Ranger in my opinion for the carpet cleaning abilities, but I'll still be saying in twenty years time that the best all rounder for daily cleaning is the Turbopower 2!
Can't beat the Autosense feature either, it gives you the power you need, when you need it :) |
Post# 186098 , Reply# 26   6/18/2012 at 15:43 (4,327 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 186099 , Reply# 27   6/18/2012 at 15:45 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186100 , Reply# 28   6/18/2012 at 15:46 (4,327 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)   |   | |
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Post# 186101 , Reply# 29   6/18/2012 at 15:47 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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"I much prefer using the more basic T2's without Autosense. Although an interesting feature, I always found the autosense to be more annoying and not very accurate" I understand what you mean, but in my opinion the Turbopowers without Autosense were very loud, or at least mine is.
With the Autosense feature when you're not picking up much dirt the wattage is dropped to the minimum meaning it not only saves energy (which I'm not too bothered about) but makes it very quiet too and makes the activator more effective due to it spinning slower. |
Post# 186102 , Reply# 30   6/18/2012 at 15:50 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186103 , Reply# 31   6/18/2012 at 15:50 (4,327 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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"With the Autosense feature when you're not picking up much dirt the wattage is dropped to the minimum meaning it not only saves energy (which I'm not too bothered about) but makes it very quiet too and makes the activator more effective due to it spinning slower."
The problem with Autosense, is that it only senses larger particles that actually make a sound when they go up the vacuum. What about pet hair or dust? I want that removed from my carpet just as effectively as the sand, grit and crumbs. Also, if it's energy saving you're worried about, get a TP1 at 410w :P |
Post# 186104 , Reply# 32   6/18/2012 at 15:51 (4,327 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)   |   | |
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Post# 186105 , Reply# 33   6/18/2012 at 15:53 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186107 , Reply# 35   6/18/2012 at 15:55 (4,327 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 186110 , Reply# 36   6/18/2012 at 15:58 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186111 , Reply# 37   6/18/2012 at 15:59 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186115 , Reply# 38   6/18/2012 at 16:02 (4,327 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 186117 , Reply# 39   6/18/2012 at 16:04 (4,327 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Surely the Panasonic 50 series had a floating head, which is not what you want ideally. (At least for me) The Turbopower 3 would have had a longer hose than a Panasonic 50 series, considerably; in fact, the Turbo 2 would have had a longer hose than any Panasonics? They look really heavy also? The Turbopower 2 is quite heavy but those things look like beasts, lol. On off brush is a very good feature too, although I bet most consumers just swept the floors? The Turbopower 2's could have had a headlight, there is just the space for one on the cleaner head, were that little plain patch is, just above the height adjustment. Cord rewinds would be nice :) |
Post# 186118 , Reply# 40   6/18/2012 at 16:04 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186122 , Reply# 41   6/18/2012 at 16:07 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186130 , Reply# 43   6/18/2012 at 16:21 (4,327 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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According to Argos, the Panasonic MC-E53 weighs 16.5lb, where as the Turbo 2 is 17.4lb.
The floating head design works considerably better on the 50's due to the increased weight of the machine. I find it grooms the carpet way more effectively than the Turbo 2. With regards to the hose, the original 50 series came with an optional extension hose to rival the longer-hosed uprights that were coming out at the time. By the time the turbo 3 came out, Panasonic had launched the 500 series which included a much longer hose AND 1000w motor. It is recommended in the user manual to switch the beater bar off whilst using the tools to protect the carpet |
Post# 186135 , Reply# 44   6/18/2012 at 16:25 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186141 , Reply# 47   6/18/2012 at 16:30 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186142 , Reply# 48   6/18/2012 at 16:31 (4,327 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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I wouldn't say nit picking - seems like a perfectly valid question.
I think it does have a lift feature of sorts, actually. It was more of security thing. If you vacuuming with the hose and it gets stretched, the floorhead could easily be forced down into the carpet by accident which could damage both the carpet and cleaner. |
Post# 186144 , Reply# 49   6/18/2012 at 16:33 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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"Panasonic had come under much critisim for having open-ended roller brushes in which small children had been injured when their parents allowed them to roam around whilst their back was turned as they cleaned with the hose." If blood could boil (it can't, it would congeal first) then mine would when that subject is brought up.
If you are as inane as to let your children roam around a Vacuum Cleaner which is plugged in and switched on, you shouldn't be complaining to Panasonic, you should be brushing up on your parenting skills. Rant over. |
Post# 186148 , Reply# 50   6/18/2012 at 16:40 (4,327 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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Jmurray, don't shoot the messenger! It was big news at the time. It was on one of those televison programmes, I think possibly That's Life with Esther Rantzen. |
Post# 186159 , Reply# 51   6/18/2012 at 16:56 (4,327 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186168 , Reply# 52   6/18/2012 at 17:09 (4,327 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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I think the autosense is not just a gimick! Here is a video I made today, not knowing at all what was going to happen, I was right as I suspected. CLICK HERE TO GO TO alexhoovers94's LINK |
Post# 186169 , Reply# 53   6/18/2012 at 17:11 (4,327 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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When I said gimmick, I didn't mean to suggest that it did not do what it promised to do. What I meant was that it was the sort of thing which people paid good money for and never used. |
Post# 186172 , Reply# 54   6/18/2012 at 17:24 (4,327 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Post# 186177 , Reply# 55   6/18/2012 at 17:39 (4,327 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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Sorry, I have yet to watch the video. But I will do at some point. |
Post# 186178 , Reply# 56   6/18/2012 at 17:42 (4,327 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK)   |   | |
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Post# 186189 , Reply# 57   6/18/2012 at 18:40 (4,327 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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Yes, that is the case, however there needs to be enough of whatever it is in the carpet to hit the turbo 2's sensor to engage it into the medium power, it may be sensitive but not that sensitive, a few particles of salt that may of been left over in the carpet would not of turned it into medium like it did here. There had to be a good amount left there, which clearly there was! Don't forget, most of the left over salt that is picked up by that turbopower 2 is getting stuck in between the crevices of the hose before it even reaches the sensor. |
Post# 186223 , Reply# 58   6/19/2012 at 05:46 (4,326 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186244 , Reply# 59   6/19/2012 at 11:42 (4,326 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Seeing as this is a thread on about the Turbopower 2/1000/3 I thought I'd mention that I've just spotted a good deal on eBay at the moment for twenty bags at the price of only a Tenner.
I'll leave a link below. Needless to say I'll be purchasing them next Friday for my Turbopowers - Should keep me vacuuming for 5 years according to my calculations (new bag every 6 months on both the TPs). CLICK HERE TO GO TO jmurray01's LINK on eBay |
Post# 186286 , Reply# 60   6/19/2012 at 15:17 (4,326 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Actually it was initially reported by Which before it appeared on Esther Rantzen's show. I can recall my father commenting on the Panasonic being a poor design, and Im sorry JM but poor parenting skills has nothing to do with letting a child play about on a carpet, let alone the upright vacuum being nearby.
As a previous owner of three Panasonic Twin bin uprights which had the removable covers on the side of the brush rolls, I can see why it could have been more of a danger not just with children's fingers getting trapped, but also from personal experience where the brush rolls can catch onto anything loose at the side of skirting boards, getting caught up, breaking the belt and in some cases ruining the brush roll and its entire holding mechanisms. When the brush roll doors were clipped back in, catching stuff etc at the side of skirting boards and carpets were more or less eradicated.
Of less importance but still a minor design issue that was later publicly pressured to change the design was on the Hoover Telios and Arrianne handles where the trigger outlet mechanism was located - several owners complained of the trigger catching the back of their hand and causing open wounds. Hoover were forced to change the design and went with a horrible Morphy Richards copied handle complete with grid air outlet switch on the handle. |
Post# 186315 , Reply# 61   6/19/2012 at 16:20 (4,326 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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"Im sorry JM but poor parenting skills has nothing to do with letting a child play about on a carpet, let alone the upright vacuum being nearby." Oh by all means let children play on the carpet and even around a Vacuum Cleaner, but not one that is PLUGGED IN! Poor parenting skills does have everything to do with the obvious carelessness in the parents.
As for things getting caught in the brush roll while using the edge cleaning (which only really is edge cleaning when the brushes can actually touch the edges), that is carelessness too, if you don't mind me saying so. It sounds like I'm trying to instigate an argument but I'm not, I'm just stating my point of view on the matter. I'd love to own a "open ended" Panasonic some day, because then I'd have a Vacuum Cleaner which really could edge clean! |
Post# 186346 , Reply# 62   6/19/2012 at 17:44 (4,326 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Any appliance that is plugged in constantly can serve a hazard to a child. I know many who have the Dyson hand held and similarly cordless sweepers plugged in constantly - but they genuinely have safer parts of plastics where little fingers won't necessarily get a severe wound - and whilst they need it to be constantly charged for use - the Panasonic design, was sadly highlighted by a child having an accident - but then there was no other brand who had an open ended brush roll on the market at the time.
Well, the destruction that was caused by one of my Twin bin uprights when I foolishly removed the cover plates resulted in the Panasonic tearing paint off down one side of a skirting board. Is that carelessness? No its a perfect example of where an upright vac is supposed to clean right to the edge. The covers made sense. They prevented damage from happening as much and not as severe.
Another time, loose threads from the side of carpets that normally the upright would just brush dirt into the suction channel got wound up at the sides of the brush roll, causing the brush roll to overload, belt stretch, belt broke and getting the tangled carpet thread off the side of the brush bar was harder than getting it off the middle where the two areas of the plastic beater "wave" met. The science behind overloading one side of the roller brush then resulted in the roller brush having to be entirely replaced since it bent out of shape. There is a reason to why Panasonic incorporated grills into the edge brush covers - suction could suck the dirt in as opposed to driving loose threads in and warping the brush roll/damage to the belt.
I am somewhat surprised that you need an open ended Panasonic for proper edge brushing - I found, compared to many other uprights at the earliest stage of my vacuum cleaner collecting, that the best ones was the TP2 and TP3 uprights. The Junior U1104 was also pretty good at getting right up to the edge, but both as you know had that design added to their floor heads and chassis.
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Post# 186421 , Reply# 63   6/20/2012 at 04:53 (4,325 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186438 , Reply# 64   6/20/2012 at 10:24 (4,325 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 186442 , Reply# 65   6/20/2012 at 10:35 (4,325 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland)   |   | |
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Post# 186449 , Reply# 66   6/20/2012 at 10:54 (4,325 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Oh JM. Your idea of edge brushing isn't naturally going to be the same that the brands made all those years ago - at least the TP2/s et al have it compared to the Senior or Ranger. Open brush rolls are more trouble than their worth. If you fancy it, order the screw in Oreck stiff side brushes for the Oreck XL and put them onto your uprights at the sides. You'll soon find in time that the brushes will naturally flatten and no longer remain in their shape to pull the dust in - same as it would happen with a brush roll that would be open ended - and brands would have to go to an effort to offer a replaceable section to the brush roll in order for those brushes to be replaced rather than spending more on one complete brush roll replacement. |
Post# 190230 , Reply# 67   7/16/2012 at 19:13 (4,299 days old) by alexhoovers94 (Manchester UK)   |   | |
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What is it with everyone an edge cleaning, what is wrong with getting out the crevice tool? if you can't be bothered to get out a crevice tool the why vacuum in the first place :P I vacuum all the floor first, then, get out the crevice tool, go around the edges, and then after that give the floor a once over again, done. :) |