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what is the next kirby model |
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Post# 183980   6/2/2012 at 19:53 (4,317 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )   |   | |
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Post# 183981 , Reply# 1   6/2/2012 at 20:00 (4,317 days old) by twocvbloke ()   |   | |
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The next model is the one that will be released next... (I.E.Nobody knows, there's plenty speculation, but little fact) |
Post# 183990 , Reply# 2   6/2/2012 at 21:00 (4,317 days old) by Vinvac (Dubuque IA)   |   | |
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Very well put David!
There has been much conversation on our forum about this very subject. Kirby is very private about their research and future models. Until production actually starts only a few selected folks will know about it. With out a doubt, it will be a very nice machine. Kirby has always maintained quality and performance. I might also add, they (someone from the company) does watch this site. Several years ago after we toured the plant we were asked to have some photos removed from the site....so they do watch and they know we are wondering.... Morgan |
Post# 183991 , Reply# 3   6/2/2012 at 21:19 (4,317 days old) by hoover1 ()   |   | |
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hey, when is kirby's 100th annivarsary? because they are keeping the sentra but changing the colors to keep it the current model until the hundredth birthday, saves time and energy. Im sure about this. |
Post# 184015 , Reply# 4   6/3/2012 at 08:27 (4,317 days old) by twocvbloke ()   |   | |
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Erm, the (Nissan) Sentra is a car, the SentrIa is a Kirby... There may be no I in teamwork, but there's definitely an I in Sentria... :P |
Post# 184042 , Reply# 5   6/3/2012 at 13:00 (4,316 days old) by thekirbylover (Warrington, cheshire )   |   | |
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Post# 184071 , Reply# 6   6/3/2012 at 15:10 (4,316 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 184110 , Reply# 8   6/3/2012 at 20:38 (4,316 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 184114 , Reply# 9   6/3/2012 at 21:47 (4,316 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)   |   | |
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I have to agree with Kirbyloverdan. If Kirby had adopted a bagless design it would have been the end of them. Most bagless vacuums don't last like Kirbys do, don't have as much power as Kirbys do, and don't filter as well as Kirbys do. Sure, they would have been the first, but when they broke-down, blew dirt out the sides or needed as much cleaning and servicing as bagless vacuums do, that would have put the nail in Kirby's coffin.
If there is going to be a new model introduced in 2014, it is unlikely that the Sentria will be changed at all before 2014. I have heard that the reason that there was no change to the Sentria was sluggish sales due to the 'Great Recession', and that there might be a totally new design on the horizon. So, I guess we'll have to see what happens at the end of 2014. Maybe there will be something new and wonderful... and maybe there will just be a redressed Sentria... how many more shades of grey can Kirby use??? Please, try red or blue (if someone from Kirby IS reading this forum.) Justin |
Post# 184136 , Reply# 11   6/4/2012 at 01:20 (4,316 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Imagine a bagless vacuum made out of aliminium like Kirby's current models, I agree with trebor. It would have been nice but there is no chance of that now For vacuum collectors like ourselves Kirby's are great but in reality they are two heavy, and not easy enough to use for your average consumer. Many people are wowed by the initial sales talk and in the end the machine ends up standing in the cupboard while a cheaper lighter vacuum is used every day.
Kirby needs to catch up with the times, I am not bashing the machine but think fit from someone who has a house to clean everyday, Not as someone who loves to vacuum. Hand a sentria to your average home owner and this will be the responce, Too heavy to lift and carry, not easy to manoeuvre , to many complications to attach the hose, cant easily be used to switch from carpets to hard flooring. To your average consumer vacuuming is a chore that needs to be done as fast as possible with the least amount of effort.
A large amount of homes these days do not have wall to wall carpeting but rather wall to wall hardflooring and large throw rugs. I believe for Kirby to stay around for the future they need to shed some weight,( keep the metal but make it better) add on board tools( but why not incorporate a non stretch normal vacuum hose in a clever way), have a hard floor setting that is easy to operate.
I love they way kirby's look I love the soft bag and I have every g model up to the sentria but I don't use them. In my house with two sons one of which is a special needs child and cats dogs and a normal life to lead i simply don't have the time to push that heavy machine around my house twice a day. ( between Joshua & Anthony and the cats we need to vacuum twice a day )
I have been running my own vac shop for a while now and have never seen so many Kirby trade inns before , on average 5 a week , Mostly ultimate G's and sentria's. Always the same complaint , its just to heavy to use. |
Post# 184190 , Reply# 14   6/4/2012 at 10:34 (4,315 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Trebor
Thank you, I trade them inn as its a policy I made a while back , at the moment I have an outlet to dispose of excess ones. I love vacuums to much to ever take them to the metal yard.
My source who takes them works for the brand and resells after he has refurbished them, I had a good chuckle today when a customer traded in one and said that she had bought it refurbished from them, I had to wonder if it was one of the ones I had already supplied him.
Quick and easy is what workes these days not heavy and well made, I am always amazed at the amount of perfectly working vacuums we get in as trade inns because " we thought its time for a new one " people don' want stuff to last forever , they want a new one once every 5 or so years. If a company wishes to survive in this economy then they have to conform or fade into the distance never to be seen again. Its sad but its reality
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Post# 184210 , Reply# 16   6/4/2012 at 14:08 (4,315 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Inteesting I use the following, a light weight dc40 for day to day cleaning and a dc27 for my weekend cleanups , as well as a dc29 for above the floor cleaning.
I think you are on the right track there Trebor. the fact that Kirby has kept the g series going for so long makes me wonder what there R&D department has been up to all these years, how many brilliant and fantastic concepts they have made. I do hope its something revolutionary rather than evolutionary.
On the canister machines , one machine I never understood was a rainbow, I always found them awkward to use ( granted Im not a canister fan ) However when we went to house sit a friend of mines luxurious estate house with the average room measuring 100sqm and the living room almost the size of my house I got to se his rainbow, in a house that size with no step down or ups it was ok to use but maybe its a personal thing I still would have preferred a upright. |
Post# 184237 , Reply# 18   6/4/2012 at 18:01 (4,315 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Trebor I don't doubt that they are good, I did some years ago use a e rainbow for a while , to see what it was like, I think it was for about 3 months , It was bought brand new by the company I was consulting for, it was the first brown e series, I loved the powernozzle. I found it bumped into things allot, I also did not like the having to fill up with water every time I wanted to vacuum.
I would never say it was a bad machine at all maybee its just my preference for uprights, that said if I had to choose between the two for my own use I too would take the rainbow, I hate having to buy bags and I think it is more useful and easier to clean house with than the kirby. |
Post# 184238 , Reply# 19   6/4/2012 at 18:06 (4,315 days old) by sanitairered (Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 184239 , Reply# 20   6/4/2012 at 18:08 (4,315 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)   |   | |
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Post# 184240 , Reply# 21   6/4/2012 at 18:09 (4,315 days old) by sanitairered (Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 184243 , Reply# 22   6/4/2012 at 18:31 (4,315 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah)   |   | |
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Kirbys are certainly Too heavy, too large and can be hard to use if you are not VERY familiar with them. Kirby needs to make the machine small, lighter and easier to use with out giving up what they are good at... Powerful, multiple uses and HEPA filtering DISPOSABLE bag system.
If they did that, ditched the Door-To-Door sales and offered them at Wal-Mart, K-Mart, ShopKo and such they would do very well. If Dyson can get $500 at Wal-Mart I think Kirby could get $600, but I'd go no higher then Dysons. Even if they just offered on-line sales they would improve their sales numbers by a big margin. The days of D2D sales are over and so many of what D2D is left is less then honest sales tactics. I know that I would never let a D2D salesman into my home. I would just like to see Kirby do three things, make the vacuum smaller and easier to use, lower the price to something reasonable and end the Door-To-Door sales. Just my two pence. Justin |
Post# 184485 , Reply# 25   6/6/2012 at 00:21 (4,314 days old) by macmansam (Minnesota )   |   | |
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Post# 184487 , Reply# 26   6/6/2012 at 00:23 (4,314 days old) by macmansam (Minnesota )   |   | |
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Post# 184488 , Reply# 27   6/6/2012 at 00:56 (4,314 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 184529 , Reply# 29   6/6/2012 at 10:18 (4,313 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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like a Kirby at all , more like an improved Vorwerk which never really took off here in the states .
They made the Vorwerk based on what they thought a Kirby should be . The new Kirby WILL be the answer and solution to all the gripes about the Generation series . Besides the economy they are making sure it is perfect beforwe they release it . Warren Buffet was asked if he would put them in retail stores and his answer was NEVER it was how his entire family always purchased Kirbys and he will never break that tradition . Thats why he purchased the company . |
Post# 184676 , Reply# 34   6/7/2012 at 11:09 (4,312 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I think the reason that Kirby is been picked on as far as the horrible sales Is that Kirby is the most well know dtd vacuum company, Even around the worls. ask the average person what a tristar or Rainbow is and they won't have a clue but mention Kirby and everyone knows of those.
As for the picking on Kirby's design , I personally think out of all the d2d designs it is the most impractical. Infact apart from some Electrolux/ Aerus models & vorwerk is there another upright d2d vacuum.
I personally prefer a Upright to a canister but If I had to make a choice out of all the d2d vacuums as my only vacuum I would go for the canister due to its ease of use and more versatility . |
Post# 184774 , Reply# 38   6/8/2012 at 10:20 (4,311 days old) by trebor ()   |   | |
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than when I did it in a TUX... "If I can use the Kirby in tux, how hard can it be...? Will that be check, credit card, or payment plan." |
Post# 184943 , Reply# 40   6/9/2012 at 21:33 (4,310 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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I love my kirby shampoo system. It doubt it will ever go away. |
Post# 188563 , Reply# 42   7/5/2012 at 20:13 (4,284 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)   |   | |
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Post# 188565 , Reply# 43   7/5/2012 at 20:42 (4,284 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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on it`s way very very soon .
I said what about 2014 and I was told it will be much sooner than that . I was also told it was going to be completely redesigned and they have addressed every problem and complaint that consumers have complained aboout for years . I was told being a collector I and other vacuum collectors will be suprised and pleased . |
Post# 188606 , Reply# 46   7/6/2012 at 07:43 (4,284 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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it will only be released as the 100th Anniversary model ??? Where did you come
up with that therory ? Do you not remember when the G4 was introduced they did not wait to release it until the 80th birthday . They just slapped an 80th Anniversary sticker on it . I guess you will be suprised then because its gonna be here sooner than what you think ! |
Post# 188610 , Reply# 48   7/6/2012 at 10:07 (4,283 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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the first G4 was not labled an 80th Anniversary until a year after it was introduced.
I have the very first G4 and its not labled 80th so that`s why your therory of the redesigned Kirby not being released until 2014 doesn`t make sense . The new totally redesigned Kirby is on the way very very soon . They realize they need a new machine but needed to work out all the bugs because in this economy you can`t afford to introduce a new model and have it break down . |
Post# 188611 , Reply# 49   7/6/2012 at 10:09 (4,283 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Model history
Ezee Vacuum Cleaner (1914-1919) Vacuette Wireless (1919-1930) The Vacuette Electric (1925-1928) Scott and Fetzer Sanitation System (1928-1934) Kirby Model 1C (1935-1937) Gray and Black Kirby Model 505 (1945-1947) Gray, Black and Red Kirby Model 508 (1948-1949)Gray, Black and Red Kirby Model 509 (1949-1950) Gray, Black and Red Kirby Model 510 (1950-1951) Gray and Red Kirby Model 516 (1956-1957) Gray and Red Kirby Dual - Sanitronic 50 (1965-1967) Sirrocco (Tan) Kirby Dual - Sanitronic 80 (1967-1970) Avacado (Green) The first model with a substantial redesign was the Kirby Classic. Kirby Classic (1970-1973) Chocolate Brown w/ Gold Bag Kirby Classic Omega (1973-1976) Rosewood Brown w/ Tan bag Kirby Classic III (1976-1979) Red w/ Plaid bag Kirby Tradition (1979-1981) Royal and Navy Blue The Kirby Tradition was first Kirby model to feature disposable paper bags, notably later than other vacuum manufacturers. Kirby Heritage (1981-1984) Medium Gray and Scarlet Red, the last Kirby to be fitted with the Sani-Emtor and now optional shake-out bag; introduces the Turbo Brush, Turbo Sander, and Turbo Groom Kirby Heritage II (1984-1987) Black and Red w/ Gray and Red Kirby bag; introduces the Zippbrush, smaller rug nozzle and the new "Mini-Emtor" Kirby Heritage II Legend (1987-1989) As Heritage II but with a design on the handle and with "Legend" on the belt lifter Kirby Legend II (1989-1990) Maroon and Black w/ Maroon and Gray Kirby bag, handle design as Heritage II Legend but with new color scheme & with "Legend II" on the handle and the "Kirby" logo on the belt lifter Another substantial redesign from the ground up, introduces the patented TechDrive Power Assist self-propelled feature which eliminates 90% of the effort required to move the Kirby back and forth. Kirby Generation 3 (1990-1993) Alabaster White and Gray w/ Gray stripes on bag and handle Kirby G4 (1993-1997) Stone Gray and Periwinkle Blue w/ G4 pattern on bag; introduces the patented Micron Magic filtration system Kirby G5 (1997-1999) Burgundy and Gray w/ G5 pattern on bag Kirby GSix, G2000, and G2001 (1999-2002) Black Onyx, Yellow and Gray w/ G Six pattern on bag; introduces the patented and redesigned Micron Magic HEPA filtration system Kirby Ultimate G (2002-2003) Twilight Gray and Yellow w/ Ultimate G pattern on bag Kirby Diamond Edition (2003-2006) Twilight Gray and Yellow w/ Diamond Pattern on bag and handle Kirby Sentria (2006-Present Day) Gray and Red w/ Sentria pattern on bag; different handle shape and belt lifter modification This post was last edited 07/06/2012 at 10:33 |
Post# 188612 , Reply# 50   7/6/2012 at 10:27 (4,283 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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Generation 3 was the start of tech-drive not legend 2. |
Post# 188613 , Reply# 51   7/6/2012 at 10:31 (4,283 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 188618 , Reply# 52   7/6/2012 at 11:23 (4,283 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()   |   | |
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Your post said to expect the new model very very soon. How very very soon would you say? |
Post# 188620 , Reply# 53   7/6/2012 at 11:47 (4,283 days old) by trebor ()   |   | |
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initially had the wide Classic type nozzle and the mini-emptor and the Zipp brush. Did the switch to the more streamlined nozzle happen before the name change, or concurrent with it? |
Post# 188624 , Reply# 54   7/6/2012 at 12:09 (4,283 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 188639 , Reply# 56   7/6/2012 at 14:49 (4,283 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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release it nearest to the anniversary date when many distributers are pissed and many are leaving Kirby .
Kirby has to release this model before 2014 or risk losing people to sell them . From what I was told they can`t wait until 2014 to release it . So I guess we shall find out soon enough ! This post was last edited 07/06/2012 at 16:10 |
Post# 188652 , Reply# 57   7/6/2012 at 17:20 (4,283 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)   |   | |
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How rare is this Kirby & how long did this model in production? I wonder if this is a 516 or 560? |
Post# 188756 , Reply# 59   7/7/2012 at 11:09 (4,282 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()   |   | |
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I don't think Distributors are angry, most make decent livings. I think they're just bored and ready for a new model to market. |
Post# 188794 , Reply# 62   7/7/2012 at 14:21 (4,282 days old) by trebor ()   |   | |
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I am happy to hear things are going well for you, and your distributor is one of the good guys. |
Post# 189125 , Reply# 63   7/9/2012 at 09:58 (4,280 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()   |   | |
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So you said in one of your posts that a Kirby Demo is not a date and to keep clothes on. There's gotta be a story there. |
Post# 189167 , Reply# 65   7/9/2012 at 14:49 (4,280 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()   |   | |
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Scandilous! Yeah, my office is nothing like that thankfully. Anyway, yeah I sure hope the new Kirby comes out soon. |
Post# 189188 , Reply# 66   7/9/2012 at 15:51 (4,280 days old) by trebor ()   |   | |
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if you were expecting an amusing, slightly titillating, humorous anecdote. It was, and it is scandalous to this day. These behaviors reflect badly on the Kirby name and its representatives. |
Post# 189301 , Reply# 67   7/9/2012 at 21:57 (4,280 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 189303 , Reply# 69   7/9/2012 at 22:27 (4,280 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 189509 , Reply# 73   7/11/2012 at 12:43 (4,278 days old) by IL-Kirby-Fan ()   |   | |
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Lets hope for 90 days, lol. |