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Post# 180529   5/10/2012 at 11:35 (4,361 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Just home from Sams club, yes, they have the new Dyson Canister that swivels, $399 I think, same price as dc40 next to it. I was looking for a friend that wanted the Self Propelled Hoover Windtunnel.

Post# 180530 , Reply# 1   5/10/2012 at 11:41 (4,361 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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they are very nice I have one 
Post# 180533 , Reply# 2   5/10/2012 at 13:05 (4,361 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Ours was gold The swivel bottom was interesting

Post# 180536 , Reply# 3   5/10/2012 at 13:55 (4,361 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

I cannot get my head around the fact that for all that they cost to buy, you don't even get metal tubes. Dyson can give all the talk they like about the plastic tubes being robust and lightweight, but it doesn't wash with me.


Post# 180548 , Reply# 4   5/10/2012 at 16:24 (4,361 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        
Steering mechanism

 I wonder how long that will last?

The steering wheels protrude quite far - surely they will snag and catch door frames, coffee tables and sofas.

Over-engineered if you ask me. Certainly not streamlined.

Post# 180556 , Reply# 5   5/10/2012 at 17:51 (4,361 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Quite how one even begins to find fault in your message Rolls Rapide, I don't know. I think you have hit the nail right on the head. My own take on it is that if a customer is happy with the price and what they are getting for it, then that is all that matters. What I find almost pitiful is that customers buy Dyson products because they like them, whereas Dyson thinks people buy them because they are embracing the features and engineering. I think a Dyson with less than half of what it has would still sell.

Post# 180557 , Reply# 6   5/10/2012 at 18:17 (4,361 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)        

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OMG - plastic tubes?? I thought they were double sheathed with aluminium underneath.

Post# 180559 , Reply# 7   5/10/2012 at 18:21 (4,361 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

Not from what I have seen of them. Have you some more information?


Post# 180607 , Reply# 8   5/11/2012 at 02:10 (4,361 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Its actually cheaper to fit metal or aliminim tubes than to use the abs plastic like they do, Old dyson's like the dc19 & o8's came with alloy tubes and they are cheaper than the thicker plastic ones , also the alloy ones tend to jam were as the new plastic ones don't. I have been testing this dc37 for the past few months and its worked faultlessly. 

I would take the new plastic tubes over the old metal ones any day  
Post# 180611 , Reply# 9   5/11/2012 at 03:38 (4,361 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

I still don't like them. I also do not like the way everything wobbles when the tubes are fitted. I don't dislike Dyson cleaners and what they were built to do, but I have always found the build quality to be less than some other makes. I also think the DC02 Absolute cleaner had the right tool kit, because that was all one really needs to do the job. Anything after that has been about design and not practicality. Several times in the past I converted a customers Dyson cylinder to use generic 32mm tools because a certain part or parts had failed and they didn't want to spend the money on the parts. For instance, a full generic kit would cost about £20 a few years ago, which would be a lot cheaper than buying a new genuine Dyson telescopic tube and floor tool, which is what one woman needed for her DC08.

Post# 180613 , Reply# 10   5/11/2012 at 04:21 (4,361 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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these new plastic abs tubes do not wobble at all. Thats what I like about them. These ones have a better fit that the old alloy ones. I must say that I am trully impressed with this model , everything workes well and they really went out of there way to get this one right. I lik ethe combi dust brush crevice tool , it works a treat in corners and allong skirting boards. its really great in the car to.

 

I really like the fact that the hose can be disconnected with ease on this unit for those of us who would put it in a cupboard.

I am not realy a canister person I prefer uprights but I do like this machine.

 

Interestingly we find that dyson parts are cheaper than the generics. Due to dysons been newer to the SA market we do not get many generics here but the dyson parts are still cheaper.

 

Call me a stickler but I never fit generic parts to any make of  vacuum. I only use genuine parts, but then again I do the same with my cars too , that's why they never give me problems  
Post# 180615 , Reply# 11   5/11/2012 at 04:34 (4,361 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        

When I said wobble, I was meaning at the points where the hose connects to the tube, and where the two tubes meet where they slide out of each other, and where it meets the floor tool. I've seen a DC32 in action in a large electrical store, and that was where I realised I was not a bit keen on the new tubes. The use of generic parts is a judgement call. I ran a small back street repair shop, with no loyalty or affiliation to any brand. I would often prefer to sell genuine belts as these were more likely to give better service than the non genuine. For bags and filters it was a matter of who was supplying what. I would look at the quality and decide what was the most cost effective item to stock. The type of people who come to a small shop like mine do not want to spend a lot, they just want the cleaner working.

For tools and accessories, it was generic all the way for me.The quality was usually on a par with genuine parts, and sometimes even exceeded it. The woman I mentioned with her DC08 would have spent something like £250 on it a number of years before she came to me wanting parts for it. I remember looking up the parts and to get them & sell them to her would have cost more than double what I charged her for a brand new generic black tool kit, which included all new small tools as well. I gave her the choice. She took it and did in fact come back at one point to say she liked the kit. To some people a vacuum cleaner is just that. There to do a job I suppose.

Post# 180619 , Reply# 12   5/11/2012 at 06:08 (4,361 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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Gareth,
I got to see it for the first time yesterday.
I like it, but of course no chance to really use it in the store.
I have never had any problems with my Dyson's excpt the rug damage by the DC07.
I enjoy the fact that Dyson is not afraid to make a change on their machines. I was wondering if this machine has a longer power cord or is any quieter than my DC23?
Also it looked like the turbine brush has been redesigned and has a smaller width. I like the fact that you can now remove the hose at the machine but why such a short,stiff hose?
The plastic does have a cheap look. but at the price point they have to cut some corners and I would not expect it to have the same quality look of a Kirby,Aerus or Rainbow. Also have to consider I was looking at the machine in a low end discount store where most of their other machines were about $100.00 to $150.00.
I am ok with the plastic wands. It is just a personel choice that I prefer the metal to the plastic but the plastic wands on my DC23 have given me no problems although they do wobble.
I would like to try one and would be interested if they offered an electric power brush and longer hose. Not sure about the design being any better than my DC23 as it was a very easy to machine to use (except having to mess with that dirt bin).
I liked the way the Dyson tools stored on my DC23 and the compact design. It never catches on my door sills or the edges of rugs.
Always appreciate your input on the new Dyson's!

Post# 180622 , Reply# 13   5/11/2012 at 06:38 (4,361 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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The turbine head is such a great design, It is smaller in overall size compaired to the old one but it is the same width. I much prefer this new one to the older design as it is easier to use and it has a very well designed brushroll. 

 

It is quieter to the ear than the dc23. as for the length of the hose its no shorter than a miele hose and it worked well. 
Post# 180625 , Reply# 14   5/11/2012 at 07:54 (4,360 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
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 Thanks Gareth!
I like the size of the turbine nozzle. It seems to fit into a lot of smaller spaces.
But that short hose does not work for me. I really like the longer hose they fitted on my new Rainbow and the fact I can go from dry cleaning to wet floor cleaning with just changeing the attachment. Who would have thught just 1 foot longer would make such a difference in ease of use. That is one reason I do not have Miele besides the expensive bags and filters and the smallish attachments.
Of course these are just personel thoughts but I never liked the tools in that compartment on top of the Miele's either with the plastic door to fool with every time. I much preferred the way the tools store on my Dyson DC23 right on the machine.
Dyson does seem to make improvements on their machines.
My DC23 is a very heavy machine for it's overall size. The new Dyson looks like it might weigh less. I would like to give it run sometime.
Always appreciate you comments.


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