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Thread Number: 16899
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| Post# 180398 , Reply# 1 5/9/2012 at 11:40 (4,363 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
It's good to see you want to keep it going, rather than replacing it, even if it is a Purepower...
Replacing the release pedal (which is a common weak part of the Purepower, even today - Why haven't HOOVER sorted it yet!?) is quite a fiddly job I believe, but can be done with some patience. As for new filters, that's a very good idea after 12 years, quite frankly I'm surprised they are still in one piece after that long, ha ha! I replace the filters in my 1994 HOOVER Turbopower (the Purepower's predecessor) every couple of years, cleaning them after every bag change. | ||
| Post# 180403 , Reply# 2 5/9/2012 at 11:56 (4,363 days old) by hoovermad () | ||
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the filter change is long overdue,the carbon filter is black,i've seen the kits on sale and it's not expensive,they've just been forgotten about, have you any idea how i'd go about replacing the pedal? do i do it from the top or the bottom of the machine? | ||
| Post# 180412 , Reply# 3 5/9/2012 at 12:33 (4,363 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 180503 , Reply# 5 5/10/2012 at 02:32 (4,362 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 180543 , Reply# 7 5/10/2012 at 16:08 (4,362 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Well if the new house is all carpets and no hard flooring, go for a dirty fan!
All of the HOOVER Senior Vacuum Cleaners were dirty fan and cleaned carpets BRILLIANTLY! Much better than any clean fan. So, my advice is go for one of those, you WILL NOT regret it. Plus, you will be able to get one for under £50, rather than spending over £100 for a new cleaner which won't clean half as well or last as long. For illustration, here is my 1977 HOOVER Senior Ranger 400W Dirty Fan which picks up better than any modern cleaner despite having that extremely low wattage motor. 
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| Post# 180545 , Reply# 9 5/10/2012 at 16:17 (4,362 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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I can back Robert up on that, I've never had a problem with the release mechanism on my '94 Turbopower 1000. It doesn't lean, has very little play in it when upright and feels well made.
Unlike the mechanism on my 1993 Philips U800, which is living on borrowed time, as it keeps leaning further and further back every time I see it. | ||
| Post# 180546 , Reply# 10 5/10/2012 at 16:18 (4,362 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 180553 , Reply# 12 5/10/2012 at 16:58 (4,362 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 180555 , Reply# 13 5/10/2012 at 17:48 (4,362 days old) by hoovermad () | ||
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i know but there's a slight hitch,they don't make seniors any more,so it might be hard to come by one | ||
| Post# 180560 , Reply# 14 5/10/2012 at 18:25 (4,362 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
hoovermad
Don't pay a blind bit of attention to JM. He was only preaching weeks ago about the Clean Fan Hoover Turbopower 2 and 3 series - and you can find them on EBay or Gumtree. No, if you have a home that has a lot of carpet but not completely carpet and hard floors - hard floors can be damaged by spinning brushes - a fact that JM seems to forget easily - and the Senior has metal bars that can tear up hard floor and vinyl. None of the trad Hoover uprights have beater bars that switch off when the hose is removed or when put in the upright position. So, if you will have to live with hard floors, do yourself a favour and either seek out a compact cylinder vacuum so that you have the best of both worlds. Reserve the Purepower for cleaning carpets only with light dusting with its short hose. | ||
| Post# 180636 , Reply# 17 5/11/2012 at 10:03 (4,361 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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I don't know why anybody thought I was promoting the use of uprights on hard flooring, because I wasn't.
I was advising be bought a HOOVER Senior (with metal beater bars) because he said his new house is CARPETED. For hard flooring I ALWAYS use one of my cylinders, never an upright, as even if they have a hard flooring height setting they just don't work well. | ||
| Post# 180637 , Reply# 18 5/11/2012 at 10:06 (4,361 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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"No, if you have a home that has a lot of carpet but not completely carpet and hard floors - hard floors can be damaged by spinning brushes - a fact that JM seems to forget easily - and the Senior has metal bars that can tear up hard floor and vinyl."
No, I'm not forgetting that, I know fine well they have metal beater bars and that they do damage hard flooring - BUT, he said he was moving into a CARPETED house, not a hard floored house. I did, to clarify, ask him if it had hard flooring too, but with no reply. | ||
| Post# 180645 , Reply# 19 5/11/2012 at 11:04 (4,361 days old) by Turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
Unlike the mechanism on my 1993 Philips U800
Tell me about it Jamie. Those Goblin/Philips/Delonghi uprights ALWAYS leaned badly. Even when new out of the box, they had a lean. The handle release on them is very loose. Both my u700 and u800 lean about the same. There's nothing you can do about it on these, sadly. Best thing to do, is avoid tilting it backwards to wheel it off - lift and place rather than doing this.
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| Post# 180651 , Reply# 21 5/11/2012 at 13:08 (4,361 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 180653 , Reply# 22 5/11/2012 at 13:19 (4,361 days old) by hoovermad () | ||
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no problem Jamie, | ||
| Post# 180779 , Reply# 23 5/13/2012 at 05:21 (4,359 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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I know what I read though JM - you missed the fact that the bathroom and kitchen were hard floored which is why I recommended the cylinder vac with suction only idea.
Sorry Rolls - I disagree where metal bar rollers are concerned on hard floors - but I only refer from my own experiences of growing up. My parents own Senior Ranger and Junior with metal beater bars had a couple of issues with vinyl floors, especially uneven at the time which my parents weren't aware of. So when they ran the machines over the vinyl floors through the years, the floors did get beaten as well as damaged. Vinyl when it is new is soft and pliable as I'm sure you're aware but once it is glued or nailed down it becomes tough but pretty easy to get damaged by the constant vibration, liable to loosen carpet frames and tacks, then reveals edges sticking out and liable to break off when a metal beater bar passes over it. My parents soon learnt to manually broom hard floors until it became difficult later on in life, and used a certain stick vacuum (Miele S160) with a soft parquet hard brush. | ||
| Post# 180792 , Reply# 24 5/13/2012 at 09:25 (4,359 days old) by hoovermad () | ||
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what difference does it make whether he knew or not if i had hard floors? he recommended a senior to hoover my carpets with,i've already been recommended something to clean my hard floors with,which i already own,it's called a brush and shovel and a mop! | ||
| Post# 180797 , Reply# 25 5/13/2012 at 12:16 (4,359 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 180806 , Reply# 26 5/13/2012 at 12:56 (4,359 days old) by hoovermad () | ||
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it's ok pal.yeah i can see that lol | ||
| Post# 180815 , Reply# 27 5/13/2012 at 15:15 (4,359 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire) | ||
Sebofan only suggested what he did because of the fact using a brush becomes harder work than shoving a cylinder hoover over the floor to clean it. Not to mention is a more efficient way of doing it with no dust clouds or breeze to blow the dust about once disturbed. Its sucked straight up into the bag which is what a vac does.
Jamie I have noticed your attitude of late and considering the obvious company you seem to be keeping with some of your comments and name dropping here there and everywhere its not surprising. Might I suggest bluntly (other members have been dropping hints which you dont seem to be seeing) that you take a step back and assess what you post and how it will be percieved. Sweeping statements with no evidence or poor observing make for poor posting. Quality not quantity again. | ||
| Post# 180816 , Reply# 28 5/13/2012 at 15:36 (4,359 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 180817 , Reply# 29 5/13/2012 at 15:37 (4,359 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire) | ||
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| Post# 180820 , Reply# 30 5/13/2012 at 16:00 (4,359 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 180824 , Reply# 31 5/13/2012 at 16:09 (4,359 days old) by turbomaster1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire) | ||
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I didnt cross any line but I seem to have seen you crossing it though with lack of respect for Sebofan and his informative post.
He didnt deserve any of the comments posted about what he had said - all of it quite true. Perhaps you fail to see it is out of respect for yourself I have said what I have said. You were a member offering valuable input here but lately that seems to have declined with exactly the observations of mine that I have pointed out. Still it also ties in with the attitudes of other persons you associate with just like I noted above. | ||
| Post# 180828 , Reply# 32 5/13/2012 at 16:32 (4,359 days old) by hoovermad () | ||
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starting a post with "don't pay a blind bit of attention to jm" isn't exactly the friendliest intro either!!! just saying | ||
| Post# 180870 , Reply# 33 5/14/2012 at 00:56 (4,359 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 180871 , Reply# 34 5/14/2012 at 00:57 (4,359 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 180872 , Reply# 35 5/14/2012 at 01:00 (4,359 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 180893 , Reply# 36 5/14/2012 at 06:03 (4,358 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Hoovermad - sorry I didn't pick up on the brush mop etc - which is why I suggested the cylinder vacuum and quite rightly the comment was understood clearly by turbomaster. Im sorry if I sound harsh JM, but you must understand that just by offering ONE viewpoint on a forum, it's not the be and end all. If hoovermad had intended (or anyone infact) to ask a question to ONE member, hoovermad should have addressed the message to you directly, as have other members on here.
I apologise if I come across harsh. Bear in mind though JM that the good advice by turbomaster "...Sweeping statements with no evidence or poor observing make for poor posting..." should be taken on. There is really no point in continually trying to recommend the Hoover or the Electrolux or any other canister vacuum you've picked up as being the sole machine for every advice thread that pops up here by other members. | ||
| Post# 180896 , Reply# 37 5/14/2012 at 06:10 (4,358 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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I understand and will refrain from recommending specific makes and models in future, unless the OP asks.
The reason I recommended the Senior though, was because it is the only dirty fan Vacuum Cleaner I own and I am very pleased with the quality of carpet cleaning it provides, but I probably should have said "or, any other good dirty fan cleaner another member cares to recommend". | ||
| Post# 180914 , Reply# 38 5/14/2012 at 07:15 (4,358 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Or any other upright vacuum including the Hoover's latest bagless Turbo Power range, for that matter. Depends on what hoovermad wants. If they want to stick to the Hoover brand, then any machine may be suitable. Not all vacuum cleaner fans will buy second hand though regardless of whether its from a fellow collector or not and as Hoovermad notes in thread response 11, a Dyson DC41 may well be the answer.
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| Post# 180921 , Reply# 39 5/14/2012 at 07:37 (4,358 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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If he wants a DC41, it's up to him. Personally though I'd rather use a manual sweeper... Whoops, there I go again, I must stop saying things that will get people riled up!
Carrying on with that note though, I believe the HOOVER Turbo Power is similar to the Dyson DC41, which was perhaps HOOVER's intention. | ||
| Post# 180926 , Reply# 40 5/14/2012 at 07:44 (4,358 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Mmm.. if the Turbo Power swivels, then yes I can see it being a rival to the Dyson DC41. If its fixed, then it is in no way a rival to the Dyson's ball invention. The Turbo Power replaces the Hoover Slalom (the one that did swivel) and certain bagless Hoover Freedom uprights - they use the same Airvolution TTI inspired cyclone system.
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| Post# 180977 , Reply# 41 5/14/2012 at 12:26 (4,358 days old) by hoovermad () | ||
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dc41 it is then! once i've saved up for one that is lol | ||
| Post# 180978 , Reply# 42 5/14/2012 at 13:07 (4,358 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 181053 , Reply# 43 5/14/2012 at 20:14 (4,358 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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| Post# 181079 , Reply# 44 5/15/2012 at 06:08 (4,357 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 181095 , Reply# 45 5/15/2012 at 07:28 (4,357 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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No but JM yet again, you are missing the point - there are vacuums on the market that don't have FILTERS built in that require to be bought to be changed. Oreck for example - they only use the high filtration aspect of dust bags - and Hoover had them out well before the 1970's! Don't give me the excuse that filters are essential - they've only been added to meet the requirements of people who get allergies - apparently.
Your Swivel function that you claim isn't available on older machines isn't quite true either. The swivel on the uprights these days have been taken from cylinder vacuums - so if you say the swivel isn't necessary, how do cylinder vacuum cleaner floor heads function? | ||
| Post# 181142 , Reply# 48 5/15/2012 at 10:46 (4,357 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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This is one reason I keep my Vax Mach Air - it has a few problems but when it comes to cleaning up pet hair and associated stuff, the bagless idea is better. Not healthier, but faster to get everything up in a "one-er" and faster to empty out afterwards. I think it's also substantially cheaper than the Dyson DC41 but then I don't think you get as good a cyclone system on board.
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| Post# 181147 , Reply# 49 5/15/2012 at 10:53 (4,357 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 181153 , Reply# 50 5/15/2012 at 11:09 (4,357 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Yes but these swivelling uprights are a next step up from cylinder vacuums - they are using a design element that has already been established. Same with U.S uprights that have auto cord rewind built in. It isn't exactly new, but it's giving buyers a chance to have a similar control action to what cylinder vacuums have been doing best at for years. Buyers/owners are different, they have different needs, thus even if you think swivel necks are not necessary, some buyers may well feel it is.
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| Post# 181166 , Reply# 51 5/15/2012 at 11:30 (4,357 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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It just depends on personal preference I suppose.
I wouldn't expect a UK made upright to have automatic cord rewind and to be honest wouldn't want it to, as it's just another thing that isn't necessary but is a liability. Same with that swivel "ball", I personally don't see a need for it, but maybe others do. I accept that, but it doesn't mean I don't believe a standard upright can't manoeuvre just as well as one with a ball. | ||
| Post# 181174 , Reply# 52 5/15/2012 at 11:56 (4,357 days old) by FantomLightning (Ohio) | ||
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Not to mention that uprights without a ball mechanism will actually be able to easily fit under most furniture... | ||
| Post# 181176 , Reply# 53 5/15/2012 at 11:58 (4,357 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 181182 , Reply# 54 5/15/2012 at 12:11 (4,357 days old) by FantomLightning (Ohio) | ||
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Yup! However Dyson uprights regardless of the model normally are too bulky to fit easily under furniture. | ||
| Post# 181184 , Reply# 55 5/15/2012 at 12:13 (4,357 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 181502 , Reply# 56 5/17/2012 at 11:16 (4,355 days old) by uksausage (eastbourne east sussex UK) | ||
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hey jm i have a hoover turbo autoflex the blue model from the original line up i like the cord rewind i dont think its liability and upright vacuums have had swivel joints on them for many years the vorwerk being the first to mind then there is the speedy commercial and italian machine from the 80s and they go under furniture lol | ||
| Post# 182049 , Reply# 59 5/21/2012 at 20:10 (4,351 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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The thing is though, auto cord rewind mechanisms aren't that heavy to add to an upright vacuum. One of the worst vacuums I ever bought was the awful Dirt Devil Stick vac (Tesco/ASDA still sell them to this day, I think) - the Dirt Devil DDMSTK1 (not TTI as far as I'm aware). Good design, but woeful on power and a suction only floor head. It has a round bezel on the rear where the cord comes out the back and has a handy push button for the release. Handy for caravans unless you have carpets in them. It was the auto cord rewind and the hose I liked on that machine, as well as taking up little room like a small fire extinguisher when the handle was folded over.
Total weight of this stick vac is about 4kg. 
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