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Post# 171209 2/28/2012 at 08:23 (4,439 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)
Checkrate/Likes Hey Guys: Just wondering if anyone can shed some light on this. This upright is on ebay UK at the moment. I have the same machine but under the Dometic name as it was sold in Canada. Problem is I only have the hose, wand and dusting brush with it (Exactly the same as in the picture) The colour matches the bumper on the vacuum perfectly so its safe to assume that that is the machine they were for. I have always assumed that the crevice tool and floor brush would be the same colour but in this picture they are white. That might explain why I have never found a coloured set. Can anybody shed some light on this. Is this the way the set actually came or should there be a matching colour crevice tool and floor brush? Doug

Post# 171219 , Reply# 1 2/28/2012 at 09:33 (4,439 days old) by rugsucker (Elizabethton TN)
Checkrate/Likes *as a Viking* We had this same model in tan without the trim strip on upper body as a Viking in US.Along with 2 tanks(first gray/orange,then gray/white)and the 3 brush shampooer in white/chrome.The ur atts had vinyl hose with smaller att end similar to later Discovery end.Also crevice and combo dust/upholstery tool with 1 or maybe 2 plastic wands.Mostly dark brown colors.No floor brush.I wonder if there are any left in the darkest corners of the place of which we do not speak???

Post# 171220 , Reply# 2 2/28/2012 at 09:34 (4,439 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)
Checkrate/Likes Hi Hi Doug. Hope your ok. Yes as far as I'm aware the tool set is correct for the model Electrolux. I have a Electrolux 502 with a similar set but where the colour on this set is white and a brownish colour the 502 set was white and greeny grey colour... Mind you the Electrolux z502 and the z504 which is what the Electrolux is on the pic above was out at the same time with the z504 model being the TOL model. Hope that helps. James:o)

Post# 171223 , Reply# 3 2/28/2012 at 09:53 (4,439 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)
Checkrate/Likes Hey James: Were the white attachments original with the set then or were they a later replacement? I know later sets were all white but it seems strange that they would mix both the coloured and white attachments like this. Doug

Post# 171256 , Reply# 4 2/28/2012 at 14:32 (4,439 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)
Checkrate/Likes Hi Hi Doug. Yep as far as I'm aware the crevice tool and flip over floor tool stayed in white for the models 502 and 504.But the hose and dusterbrush would have the different colours added...Not sure why. James:o)

Post# 171261 , Reply# 5 2/28/2012 at 14:58 (4,439 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)
Checkrate/Likes The floor tools were always white. When the 500 series cleaner went on sale the whole kit was white. When the 502 went on sale there were brown parts on the hose handle and the machine-end fitting. But the tools were white. There was no suction control on the hose handle either. What you are seeing here in the picture is the all-original top-of-the-range tool kit which came with the earliest 504 models. My mother had a 504 in 1975 and the tools came with it. They were identical to this. Whether the tools were a separate purchase or sold as part of a package, I do not know, as either was always possible for most upright cleaners, depending on where one bought it and what offers were on at the time of purchase. This tool kit was not around for long and the standard white/brown 502 tool kit became the default tool kit for both the 502 and 504. I would say this was because it was not cost effective to produce two different tool kits in two colour schemes, with only the smallest of 'features' making one superior to the other (by this I am referring to the combined suction-control / small-tool storage bracket on the 504 tool kit hose handle). In addition, sales of the cleaners will almost certainly have exceeded sales of the tool kits, therefore I would expect it was difficult for Electrolux to know how many tool kits to produce. Making different sets would have been even more of a challenge and potentially rather pointless as I doubt anyone would have been to excited by the added value of a suction control on the 504 hose. Before production of these cleaners ended, Electrolux had switched to an all-white colour scheme, which would have reflected the tools used for the 170, and the cylinders of the same time. I don't include the 345 in that as of course it always had a colour-matched tool kit. But others were white. If we look back on the history of vacuum cleaners, 'colour-matching' is a fashion which comes in time & time again, and yet always dies out, with a natural leaning towards white, grey, or black.

Post# 171263 , Reply# 6 2/28/2012 at 15:11 (4,439 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)
Checkrate/Likes Looking again at that picture, the cleaner is shown with a 2-piece Electrolux metal tube set. This cleaner would have had one single metal tube, about 2/3 the size of those two (when pushed together). I wonder how this cleaner came to have 2 short tubes instead of one longer tube? It cannot be original to this set as the hose handle is the longer size. It would be a lot shorter if it utilised the 2 short poles.

Post# 171268 , Reply# 7 2/28/2012 at 15:23 (4,439 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)
Checkrate/Likes Thanks James, Benny: So I guess I have to look for a white crevice tool and flip over floor brush to complete my kit now. LOL makes a difference when you look for the right thing. Doug PS - this is my Dometic U505 including the box the kit came in.

Post# 171270 , Reply# 8 2/28/2012 at 15:36 (4,439 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)
Checkrate/Likes Ours was different. The box on the UK models was designed to be cut in half along 3 sides around the middle, and folded over, to make a 2-part carry box for the tools. Also, your metal tube, on UK models it would never have had the plastic liner in the female end, not at the time we had those colour tools. So, either the plastic-lined tube was used much earlier in the country where this Dometec was made for, or the tan-colour hose was used for longer than it was in the UK, or yours has the wrong metal tube for the set. On UK Electrolux cleaners had two styles of flip-over floor tool. One style is as pictured in the ebay listing. The other was a little more basic and had a visible screw on the front of it, which held the neck of the tool in place. Though this style of floor tool was older than the first one I talk about, both styles were used at the same time, with the basic one being for the more modest cylinder cleaners, and the other being used on the 502/504 and mid-range cylinder. Towards the later part of the 1970s, the basic flip tool was used on the 502 and 504, and with the 550, 560, and 502S it was dispensed with altogether.

Post# 171282 , Reply# 9 2/28/2012 at 16:19 (4,439 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)
Checkrate/Likes Hi Benny: That is the wand that the uprights and cannister came with at that time - If I recall correctly this was out a bit later than the ones in England (about 1979) along with the model 245 which was the same as the Electrolux 345. Here's a brocure from it

Post# 171283 , Reply# 10 2/28/2012 at 16:21 (4,439 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)
Checkrate/Likes and the back of it

Post# 171290 , Reply# 11 2/28/2012 at 17:14 (4,439 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)
Checkrate/Likes Hi there. Well that could be the case, maybe Electrolux used the tan-colour tool kit on none-UK versions, though I can't think why they'd do that and not supply the same for the UK market. The wand you see in those pictures became standard for the UK from the late 1960s / early 1970s onwards. Though the wand itself had been around since the mid 1960s, the way the hose was attached to the wand was different, and relied on the plastic hand grip to keep in in place. On budget cylinder cleaners with no hand grip, there was a small rubber band which did the job of securing the hose. From the 1970s onwards, a plastic ring was fitted to all wands to hold the hose, and where a plastic hand grip was fitted to the wand, the hand grip simply fitted over the plastic ring. Some wands had no suction control, and of those which did, there were two styles of control; one sort moved left to right, the other is as seen in the photos here, and it moved up & down and incorporated the bracket to hold the 2-way small tool. On UK cleaners, you could expect to see any combination of hand grips & suction controls, depending on how far up the model range a certain cleaner was. For instance, in the mid 1970s the cylinder range had four models, of which the 87 had a plain metal wand with nothing else, the 302 had a plain wand with left-to-right suction control, the 305 had the same as the 302 except it had a plastic hand-grip as well, and the 345 had the wand which is seen with your 505. The 502 wand had the hand grip but no suction control. But I have seen lots of pictures recently of European cleaners under various names (Volta etc) and it seems that the combination of hand grips and suction controls is plentiful!

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