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Thread Number: 16014
Hoover Elite 5.0 LE converted to 12amp monster vac |
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Post# 170828 , Reply# 1 2/24/2012 at 20:29 (4,442 days old) by bagintheback  (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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OOO | ||
| Post# 170830 , Reply# 2 2/24/2012 at 20:30 (4,442 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Well that sounds like one mighty vac! Sounds like it would be the ultimate carpet groomer! Daniel :-) | ||
| Post# 170867 , Reply# 3 2/25/2012 at 01:53 (4,442 days old) by twocvbloke () | ||
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And another example of people thinking that more amps means more cleaning power.... | ||
| Post# 170960 , Reply# 5 2/25/2012 at 22:33 (4,441 days old) by broomvac (N/A) | ||
twocvbloke | ||
| Post# 170961 , Reply# 6 2/25/2012 at 22:34 (4,441 days old) by broomvac (N/A) | ||
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vs old: | ||
| Post# 170968 , Reply# 7 2/25/2012 at 23:30 (4,441 days old) by vacuumfreak (Ontario, Canada) | ||
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Thank you broomvac! I didn't even notice twocvbloke's post until now. The fans on those 12 amp motors create quite the suction power :-) Daniel | ||
| Post# 170984 , Reply# 9 2/26/2012 at 07:02 (4,441 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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He said do some. | ||
| Post# 170993 , Reply# 11 2/26/2012 at 09:44 (4,441 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Fair enough. I for one don't blame you for feeling that way. | ||
| Post# 171016 , Reply# 12 2/26/2012 at 14:38 (4,441 days old) by broomvac (N/A) | ||
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You seem to blog a ton more about your life than I (or many people here) do.
Also, I don't care at all what your little juniors do, I can tell you from comparing both motor/fan combinations in question that the 12 amp ones not only have a greater CFM but also pass debris just fine. You do not seem to have compared the two, and thus have no experience with them, so you cannot tell the people who do have experience with them which is better. | ||
| Post# 171040 , Reply# 13 2/26/2012 at 19:19 (4,440 days old) by broomvac (N/A) | ||
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"Why bother. It's only a hoover..." | ||
| Post# 171059 , Reply# 14 2/27/2012 at 00:13 (4,440 days old) by thevacuumlover1 () | ||
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| Post# 171097 , Reply# 16 2/27/2012 at 10:57 (4,440 days old) by broomvac (N/A) | ||
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Again, you are needlessly creating problems...
To address the "fire hazard" misunderstanding:
The thing about these Elite vacuums is that the switch is actually located deep inside the cleaner and in the motor housing (there is a pushrods that runs all the way down the handle to reach it), so when you exchange motors , the switch inevitably goes with it, something you would have known if you had experience with these motors. So, his modified cleaner actually has the original 12 amp rated switch instead of the supposedly unsafe 5 amp switch. As far as the cord, Hoover used the same cords for their 5 amp Elites as in their 12 amp elites, so the cord is not being over stressed as well. I suggest you rethink what you just posted. | ||
| Post# 171106 , Reply# 17 2/27/2012 at 12:09 (4,440 days old) by twocvbloke () | ||
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Well fine, if that's the case, go ahead and modify away then, but I still question the safety of the modifications, at least when I try modifying things I ensure what I modify can take such things without self-destruction... | ||
| Post# 171110 , Reply# 18 2/27/2012 at 12:18 (4,440 days old) by stricklybojack (Southern California) | ||
great idea! | ||
| Post# 171151 , Reply# 19 2/27/2012 at 19:11 (4,439 days old) by broomvac (N/A) | ||
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I'm pretty sure these motors were not built to self destruct.
I will also add that I do have a huge respect for safety, so I can relate to your earlier concerns if this mod was performed under different circumstances. But since this is actually a perfectly safe mod in terms of electrical components limits and ratings, I just wanted to let you know before you said even more mislead things to the OP and possibly make him and anyone else nervous about issues that do not exist. Now as far as the performance of various amperage and fan combinations, that is just something that varies from cleaner to cleaner. But, your statement that leads us to believe that amperage is independent from cleaning performance does seem incorrect in this situation as well as others. To name another example, compare a 2 amp domestic dial a nap Eureka upright vs a 7 amp Sanitaire. Despite the fact they are virtually the same cleaner, the 2 amp cleaner moves a hell of a lot less air than the 7 amp Sanitaire, and has an equally extreme drop in agitation performance as well. I mean, you can easily stop the whole motor and brushroll assembly in the two amp cleaner with your bare hands, yet if you tried the same with a Sanitaire, you would either break your fingers or burn the belt very quickly, while the 2 amp motor just stops and buzzes. | ||
| Post# 171251 , Reply# 21 2/28/2012 at 13:53 (4,439 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Ha, you guys are better than an episode of Eastenders! | ||
| Post# 171255 , Reply# 22 2/28/2012 at 14:31 (4,439 days old) by twocvbloke () | ||
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"Ha, you guys are better than an episode of Eastenders!& Nah, we're not setting fire to the Queen Vic or burying each other in the square... :P | ||
| Post# 171259 , Reply# 23 2/28/2012 at 14:41 (4,439 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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No but you're not far off. You don't half take yourselves seriously! | ||
| Post# 171264 , Reply# 25 2/28/2012 at 15:13 (4,439 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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You prove my previous comment quite nicely. Thank-you. | ||
| Post# 171272 , Reply# 26 2/28/2012 at 15:43 (4,439 days old) by twocvbloke () | ||
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Well, it's a vacuum cleaner collector forum, if you're not serious, you're not a collector... :P | ||
| Post# 171276 , Reply# 28 2/28/2012 at 15:53 (4,439 days old) by twocvbloke () | ||
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Believe me, the "energy" is only online, in reality I'm pretty relaxed (probably a tad too relaxed some days!!) and have other hobbies to play with... :P As for heart attacks, maybe, I'm not strapped up with a 7-day heart monitor for no reason... :P | ||
| Post# 171279 , Reply# 30 2/28/2012 at 16:09 (4,439 days old) by twocvbloke () | ||
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I'm on the MSE forum, well, in name only, haven't posted there in a while actually, just isn't my sort of forum... :\ | ||
| Post# 171280 , Reply# 31 2/28/2012 at 16:15 (4,439 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Well i could find it useful, were it not for the fact that everyone gets a rocket up their behind the minute they dare to ask a question. | ||
| Post# 171285 , Reply# 32 2/28/2012 at 16:29 (4,439 days old) by twocvbloke () | ||
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Well, most people on the MSE forum are a bunch of cheapskates, the last time I followed their advice I ended up with a cheap DVD player that blew up (the other one I got has yet to blow up, but it tents to spend it's time without electricity)... :S | ||
| Post# 171289 , Reply# 33 2/28/2012 at 17:01 (4,439 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Well I cannot argue with that comment for sure. They are also at the forefront of many a campaign but what I don't get is how they cannot see that if we all followed the advice there would be even less money in the country. | ||
| Post# 171483 , Reply# 35 3/1/2012 at 09:10 (4,437 days old) by bravokid () | ||
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your elite is beautiful by the way i love the 90s grey color on any vac i have a twin fan and a decade 800 in the same colors. take great care of it they are getting harder and harder to come by | ||
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Post# 171559 , Reply# 36 3/1/2012 at 20:31 (4,436 days old) by kloveland (Tulsa) |
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Great modification! Congratulations on the modification. You have a real powerhouse there! It should filter better than the original bagless. Had one for a while, couldn't get the top dirt cup lid to seal. It blew dust out of the top! But it cleaned very well.
I would like to get a Dimension or the Elite style power drive. Really like the hood style on those. | ||
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