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| Post# 169469 2/13/2012 at 22:52 (4,452 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
I've noticed something over the last few years when ever I do any kind of research. Canisters from the US and Canada you can find with power nozzles as opposed to those in Europe. Most canisters in Europe most likely come with just a combination floor brush. If you want anything with a carpet brush you almost have to go with an upright. Anyone know why this is?
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| Post# 169488 , Reply# 4 2/14/2012 at 07:11 (4,452 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
It's important to remember a bit of history:
The carpet-cleaning upright vacuum cleaner was born in the USA and was developed by the American Hoover company. The suction only canister was born in Europe and was developed by the Swedish Electrolux company. There is a larger proportion of large, individual houses in North America compared to Europe, because there is more real estate available here. So our suburban homes often feature larger living rooms and bedrooms and hallways, often covered in wall-to-wall carpeting. It's easier and faster to clean these with an upright than a canister. Small, powerful canister vacuums are easier to store and carry and move around in the smaller apartments and homes of the cities and towns of Europe. The attempt to combine the deep carpet cleaning abilities of an upright with the powerful flexibility offered by canisters for cleaning everything else has often met with poor results. The engineering "gymnastics" required to electrically power a canister's power nozzle results in bulky hoses and hose handles, and repair prone electrical connections, besides the often poor cleaning performance by the power nozzle itself. Adding above-the-floor cleaning tools to uprights has its own challenges and downsides: short hoses, on-board tools that are "dumbed down" to keep them lightweight, and hose connection systems that make it difficult or dangerous to move around the main upright unit. Uprights are for carpets. Canisters are for everything else. And never the "train shall meet" - I say. You can often buy two separate vacs for less money that do each set of tasks better than a combination machine that compromises the ability to clean. Just my 2 amps worth! :-) | ||
| Post# 169499 , Reply# 5 2/14/2012 at 08:29 (4,452 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
As above, although I'd say its the weight issue mainly and I prefer that. Not much point in having excess hose saddled with extra cord, extra weight on the machine, only to have another extra weight at the front - an upright vacuum has everything on board in front of you, weight wise.
You must also remember, the UK is like parts of Europe = France, Germany - we're a much smaller country than the U.S will ever be geographically and here products in general aren't super sized. Therefore our upright vacuums are generally smaller than what you would buy in the U.S It's one of the reasons alone to why out of the all the U.S brands, only the Kirby vacuum here has been sold - we don't get the Royal uprights here, although some commercial companies in the past have sourced them for the U.K - I recall using a Royal upright only a few years ago and loved the whole concept- but it was huge compared to the Sebo BS36 I was normally used to. The only successful appliance that has been of a great influence, U.S origin wise are the grand large American style fridge and freezer appliances - and even at that, home owners don't usually measure the size of their front doors or kitchens to accommodate said appliances and end up putting them in their conservatory because it can't get through the front door! | ||
| Post# 169526 , Reply# 7 2/14/2012 at 15:15 (4,452 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
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I guess I don't know as much as I thought!!! It was just something that I noticed. I have however seen on the Dyson UK site that the canisters have the air powered brush which I don't really care for but I think the Dyson UK also had the motorhead model still available.
It's something I notice because it's always been my dream to move to Europe Italy, France UK and I guess I just look at the whole big picture when I dream about the idea of moving and it just crossed my mind. Not being a upright peson I naturally look at canisters and it's just something I noticed with the power brushes. Hope everyone is well. | ||
| Post# 169549 , Reply# 10 2/14/2012 at 17:13 (4,451 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
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I have always lived in areas with lots of carpet either wall to wall or a variety of different floor types. Even with lots of carpet I have never really been interested in uprights. I have always felt that they were just to heavy and hard to work with. I like having a canister with a good powernozzle which is why I I think I like my Rainbow so much I use my vacuum for everything from dusting the up the walls knocking cobwebs, to cleaning the tracks in the door, to vacuuming floors and rugs and the furniture. I have just found that uprights are to cumbersome to work with with all that I do
For all the times I think about a new vacuum I find myself first trying to look at a upright but then I just constantly go back to looking at canisters. | ||
| Post# 169550 , Reply# 11 2/14/2012 at 17:17 (4,451 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
Personally, I like just the floor tool with no brush roll.
OK, you have to "scrub" a bit, but it gets your arms working if nothing else. The reason people love cylinders (canisters) is mostly because they are maintenance free almost, but if you have a PN on them, that makes them maintenance items, because the belt wears on the PN. | ||
| Post# 169552 , Reply# 13 2/14/2012 at 17:29 (4,451 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
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| Post# 169557 , Reply# 15 2/14/2012 at 17:57 (4,451 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Here's another interesting angle to add to our dicussion:
In Europe, I imagine good carpet cleaning upright vacuum cleaners are needed for large commercial spaces such as large hotel lobbies and concert halls and banquet halls and conference centres. I fondly remember seeing a documentary film about the British royal family, and watched with wonder as the cleaning crew slowly "Hoovered" nice parallel tracks down some large acres of broadloom at Buckingham Palace! :-) This is probably one of the main reasons that uprights by Hoover and Kirby are available on the eastern side of the Atlantic. | ||
| Post# 169569 , Reply# 17 2/14/2012 at 19:11 (4,451 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Thanks for that explanation, Benny. :-)
On a similar subject, I wonder how popular central vacuum systems are in Europe. These systems would probably provide the most convenient way to clean a multistory British home with lots of stairs. After all, it is in essence a very "long-hosed" canister vac! But I imagine there is a large proportion of older residential buildings in Europe - with a lot more "flats" rather than separate residences. So perhaps the more traditional architecture of European city residences does not lend itself to the installation of "in-the-wall" vacuum systems. I recently stayed in a hotel in Montreal, and I was amazed to see the cleaning staff using a central vacuum system to clean the guest rooms. The benefits for a hotel are many - very quiet, and very clean with regard to emissions as the air is filtered way down in the basement where the central power unit is positioned! | ||
| Post# 169577 , Reply# 19 2/14/2012 at 20:41 (4,451 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
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It's not that I hate uprights there are a few that I like. I like the older model Panasonic where the hose plugged into the back port I like the Electrolux Aerus upright, Kirby's I can take or leave but I like the older 60's 70's 80's models with the converter tray at the bottom because they worked like a canister.
To me growing up if I saw a upright it was always by older people so to me an upright was a old lady vacuum. | ||
| Post# 169601 , Reply# 21 2/15/2012 at 05:42 (4,451 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Very interesting thread! I'd like to thank whoever created it (I would check, but by the time I scrolled down to the bottom again I'd have forgotten).
I was talking about this to somebody the other day actually, the type of Vacuum Cleaners used by cleaners in schools, offices etc... In the USA, they all seem to use upright Vacuum Cleaners, mostly Kirbys (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!), but here in the UK, we use our famous Numatic Henry, even though it doesn't have a PN (well, there is one available but every time I've seen one in use it has never had a PN fitted). I think this may be down to the fact that Kirby is American, and Numatic is British, so we both use "our" brands. Again, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I often am. Another thing may be that in America the carpets are perhaps of better quality with less hard floored areas, and require the brush roll of an upright, whereas here in the UK most carpets of schools and offices etcetera are very very thin pile carpets for which a brush roll would do no good, and there are a lot of hard floored areas also. Just my Tuppenceworth. | ||
| Post# 169607 , Reply# 22 2/15/2012 at 06:34 (4,451 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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VR - I agree that Henry has really taken the lead. In schools especially, the instant accessibility and for the fact that everything else is on board just makes Henry really convenient as well as other Henry spin offs from commercial private cleaning companies who refurbish Henry machines and put slightly different parts.
As a fan of John Lewis stores, I was not surprised to find a lot of the carpeted areas are kept clean with the Sebo BS36 uprights. You can usually find them somewhere at the back of the stores by the stair exits or just to hand behind the cleaning storage rooms if cleaners have left the doors slightly ajar... Our local hospital also has a line up of old Sebo uprights as well as Henry vacs. | ||
Post# 169608 , Reply# 23 2/15/2012 at 06:35 (4,451 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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In the US for commercial carpet vacuuming-Sanitaires would be first and Orecks.Then Hoover Guardsman vacuums.for canisters-ProTeam backpacks. | ||
| Post# 169612 , Reply# 24 2/15/2012 at 06:52 (4,451 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Post# 169615 , Reply# 25 2/15/2012 at 07:04 (4,451 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Another commercial US canister vac-NSS M1.And commercial Sanitaire Mighty-Mites. | ||
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Post# 169616 , Reply# 26 2/15/2012 at 07:06 (4,451 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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The XL based ones.Usually a red body without headlight and the orange 3 wire grounded plug cord.All US commerical vacuums must have 3 wire grounded plug cords to meet US OSHA safety regulations.The metal parts of the vacuum the operator can touch or hold must be grounded. | ||
| Post# 169628 , Reply# 29 2/15/2012 at 11:49 (4,451 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Sanifan - they do sell Numatic Henry models in the States - its just usually restricted to online sales. Amazon.com have them ( www.amazon.com/Numatic-Top-Seller...)
The Henry vac was originally founded on plastic barrels with a motor on the top i.e. your usual "Shop Vac" or round canister tub vacuum. The reason they are so good is because they have excellent sealed suction dust bags, large capacities of 7 to 12 litres dependent on the sizes, made of thick and good PVC plastic, good power and low noise motors. One of the other reasons to why Henry is so successful is simply because he was originally sold with a long 2.5 metre hose over the shorter hose domestic versions and has a manual cord winder (as well as a long cord) on top as opposed to auto pedal or lasso'ing the cord up after use.. Although on board cleaning tools can't be stored on the main body of the vacuum itself, the suction tubes are unique because the top pipe is a metal "bent" tube that allows you to swap that around to the bottom of the tubes to get into awkward areas - but usually incites the use of an extra adaptor to make it work successfully. Because "he" is commercially based you can buy plenty of spares and accessories for this model, but his main filtration aspect is a washable material "basket" filter with additional HEPA also available. The basket is also double rubber lined to seal the dust in - so effectively you can use the Henry as a bagless vacuum - but it can be very messy!. A downside to Henry is that he's difficult to store, can't be put on stairs due to his shape (hence the long hose) and can topple over due to his round, squat shape. | ||
| Post# 169630 , Reply# 30 2/15/2012 at 11:57 (4,451 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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There's even a pink one called "hetty" if it takes your fancy.
The year Charles and Camilla got together, a good friend I know on another vacuum cleaner forum suggested that a gold and black Numatic limited edition called "Camilla" was about to be launched and even though it was clearly a joke, a lot of people thought it was a serious launch! | ||
| Post# 169632 , Reply# 32 2/15/2012 at 12:30 (4,451 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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Where do I start with Henry... He's fantastic!
Since his introduction in 1980, things have just gotten better and better. The bucket is strong, the motor is incredibly quiet and powerful, and hose is 2.5 meters, the flex is VERY VERY long, and the bag is 9 litres. OK, there is no place to store the tools, nor is there automatic rewind, but honestly, I couldn't care less. He gives so many years of reliable use that I am willing to carry the tools around with me and wind the cord back myself. Henry - The best canister Vacuum Cleaner around - FACT! :) My Henry is a 2007 model, and I will bet that in 2027 I'll be back here boasting about my 20 year old Henry that works like new. | ||
| Post# 169635 , Reply# 33 2/15/2012 at 13:49 (4,451 days old) by twocvbloke () | ||
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Nah, my Tristar would easily outpace it, and it's already 20 years old... :P | ||
| Post# 169645 , Reply# 35 2/15/2012 at 14:14 (4,451 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 169662 , Reply# 36 2/15/2012 at 14:30 (4,451 days old) by whirlpolf () | ||
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could well be Hm. I leave it to the experts.... To each his own. The only Henry I do take serious is the small table-top battery Henry, looks cute, is cute (due to its size) and will make any user look heartwarmingly silly (THIS one I do want!) ;-D | ||
| Post# 169667 , Reply# 38 2/15/2012 at 15:31 (4,451 days old) by petek (Ontario) | ||
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Seen a few Henry's around here,, our local Habitat Restore uses one as their store vac, they bought it new for that purpose. It's pretty quiet, not any louder than a Miele imo. | ||
| Post# 169672 , Reply# 39 2/15/2012 at 16:32 (4,450 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
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Order of Vacuuming - Uprights versus Canisters
There is another important reason that upright vacuum cleaners are better for cleaning deep pile carpet. And it has to do with the way you start and finish vacuuming a room.
In order to leave behind a nice, freshly vacuumed carpet - with nice vacuum patterns left behind, and no footprints, it is important to begin vacuuming at the far end of the room and make your way backwards towards the door or entryway. It is very inconvenient to do this with a canister vacuum as you are forced to keep pushing the main vacuum unit backward to get it out of the way. With an upright, all you have to do is keep collecting the electrical cord as you make your way backward towards the door. With bare floors, this does not matter as much. In fact, it is probably better to proceed from the entryway to the far end of the room with your canister vacuum, as you have less chance of kicking up loose dust and dirt with the exhaust of the vacuum if you remove any surface debris on your way to the far end of the room. So for bare floor cleaning, it makes sense to have a canister vacuum that is trailing behind you as you proceed into the room. And the long hoses and bare floor attachments that you can use with canister vacs make it far easier and safer to remove dirt from floors compared with using an upright (especially if you can't turn off the upright's revolving brush). | ||
| Post# 169675 , Reply# 41 2/15/2012 at 16:55 (4,450 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 169678 , Reply# 42 2/15/2012 at 17:02 (4,450 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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I found the date 1980 on Wikipedia Benny, but I'm not sure if that is correct.
I know what you mean about people marking the manual rewind down - I've seen it in many Ciao reviews. Utter rubbish, it is less to go wrong! As for the cord Hoo-Ha, I pull it out as far as it will go before Vacuuming, but maybe I shouldn't do that ? Any advice ? What I meant by it being an older model, was that if it were older it would probably be more worn, which would make it louder. Of course, the age itself wouldn't just make it loud, it would be the fact that being old usually means it has been used for a long time. Your closing statement is so true. He is very tough and I don't think I could kill mine, even if I wanted to. | ||
| Post# 169682 , Reply# 45 2/15/2012 at 17:14 (4,450 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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I will say that one thing I don't understand is why the cleaners Numatic make for 'homes' have the switches on the back, whilst the new 'commercial' models have them at the front. The front is a much better place to have them. | ||
| Post# 169683 , Reply# 46 2/15/2012 at 17:15 (4,450 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 169686 , Reply# 47 2/15/2012 at 17:17 (4,450 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 169690 , Reply# 49 2/15/2012 at 17:25 (4,450 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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| Post# 169693 , Reply# 50 2/15/2012 at 17:29 (4,450 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Yes if you constantly yanked at it. More likely on autoflex cleaners. | ||
| Post# 169753 , Reply# 52 2/16/2012 at 06:56 (4,450 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Replacing a cord on the Henry is dead easy though - there's a great You Tube video about it I saw ages ago.
I must admit VR, I have never noticed the switches - the beauty of Henry's top is that you can lock it on at any angle, so even if the hose is at the front, you could position the head at any angle that the circular head can be locked to, so even if the switches are at the front, it can be put to the back. | ||
| Post# 169778 , Reply# 54 2/16/2012 at 12:46 (4,450 days old) by jmurray01 (Scotland) | ||
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You will see Jehovah's Witnesses vacationing at a nudist | ||
| Post# 169862 , Reply# 56 2/17/2012 at 09:31 (4,449 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Henry quiet? Nah.
VR - I have honestly never noticed that - but then with all my canister/cylinders, I always pull them out of the way of the lead, and if they have to go over the lead, I pull the machine through. Some brands like Miele and Sebo allow the wheels to "jump" over the leads with ease. I can see your point with Henry's larger wheels proving a bit of a nuisance.
As for Henry noise - Well current Henry motors are reasonably quieter, whirlpolf - especially ones with the 2 speed variable motor. I find the lower power even quieter than my Miele S6 Ecoline, and they're both rated the same power. | ||
| Post# 169983 , Reply# 63 2/18/2012 at 10:09 (4,448 days old) by vintagerepairer (England) | ||
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Well, anyone in this day & age who might be sued for someone would be a fool to indulge in a practise which leaves them wide open for such. I guess either the man is a fool or else he knows what he's doing. | ||
| Post# 169989 , Reply# 64 2/18/2012 at 11:05 (4,448 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Longevity expectation versus ownership use & abuse.
RainbowD4C - Strange, but I'm completely the opposite. I was raised with upright vacuums in the UK, because we had carpet and very little else as an alternative. It took me years to appreciate canisters/cylinders because they're a lot lighter to use and without PN/Power nozzles, they're far more versatile to use, especially for detail cleaning - so handy to take the whole machine up a ladder to clean the loft with one hand on the hose, the other holding a lightweight machine like a bucket. Uprights with hoses and stretchable tools offer similar versatility but it is almost always too bulky and time consuming and I could never see myself lifting up upright vacuum in one hand whilst standing on a ladder to get rid of cobwebs and dust around smoke alarms up high!.
Twocvbloke - "society today is more interested in things being cheap and disposable, whether it's a toothbrush or a car.." Not quite, which is why brands like Miele, Bosch and Sebo exist. In the car world buyers are now realising going for Skoda is better than SEAT (both owned by VW) because the parts are cheaper but the cars are reliable despite the jokes. Same with Hyundai and Kia who at one time churned out rebadged Mitsubishi's and Mazda/Ford U.S based cars, yet one of very few brands who offer a 7 year warranty. As for toothbrushes, Braun hold the top spot for quality - another German - against Philips where the reliability isn't as efficient in their dental care - in the UK at least. It goes in leaps and bounds - buyers now have the choice to buy cheap 'n' cheerful or better quality - it has always been the way since UK has had the opportunity to be flooded with European & U.S products. VR does make a valid point that products are being bought with expectations that it will last but additionally owners don't counteract or add the abuse they'll give those appliances with the same initial expectation! I've had a cheap Hinari iron that's lasted me 23 years and I never thought it could last that long - yet it doesn't go through the abuse my mum puts her professional expensive Tefal iron through. I just iron and put it away slowly instead of "throwing" it into the cupboard. As for Henry - Ive seen Henry vacs being used to suck out petrol when car owners have mistakenly used the petrol pump for diesel! It isn't something I'd recommend - but then Henry machines can be used Bag-less because their basic filtration isn't HEPA based but simple 2 stage microfiltration through the cloth, washable basket. The motor is also similarly protected. | ||
| Post# 171297 , Reply# 67 2/28/2012 at 18:01 (4,437 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Yes but to be fair Venson, everything in America is automatic, or automatically done for you, thus stopping you from lifting a finger. From self driven mechanised uprights to sofa and chairs covered with that awful plastic wrap stuff to avoid dusting, America seems to have it all against Europe which pushes the home owner or appliance owner to work that little bit harder.
Our washing machines are now beginning to have hot or cold fill options - and the portable condenser tumble dryer is also changing from having to empty the water tanks yourself to having a tube at the back being able to drain automatically. Its only taken 10 years or so for "auto-draining" features to be added as well as Direct Drive (LG) against Miele, the most expensive brand of all who still stick with traditional features but are the only brand that you to "upload" or "upgrade" the electronics via your PC and the net. Much prefer top loaders, even the big American ones you can buy here in the UK. Same with your cars- whereas America loves the auto-shift, we prefer manual gearboxes - or "stick shift," as the Americans know it - although some of my U.S friends only prefer manual/stick shift on high performance cars. | ||
| Post# 171298 , Reply# 68 2/28/2012 at 18:02 (4,437 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-) | ||
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Uprights for me, because they consistently dealt efficiently with embedded grit and dog hair. Cylinders are useful for furniture, cars and nooks and crannies. | ||
| Post# 171331 , Reply# 71 2/29/2012 at 06:03 (4,437 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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We Brits Are Becoming Americans..
The thing is though Venson, I don't think the UK are in that much trouble, if we turn "American" in our buying options - well aside from maybe taking half your house down to get the American style large, grand fridge/freezer tandem appliances in! I can't wait to be able to buy a filter coffee machine that grinds the beans - we've had to put up with basic machines where you have to buy in the powder.
I have to say in the defence of Americans, I was lucky when I was growing up, because we had a U.S Naval base based in our town - I got to taste Baskins & Robbins ice cream at the age of 14 plus a whole host of American confectionery which was unheard of in the UK generally - unless your town ALSO had a U.S naval base or military operation. I got to see (and ride in) a lot of old wide "magic carpet ride" Cadillac Eldorado cars, Pontiacs, Trans-Ams - you name it - we must have had it! I also got to see a whole long list of household appliances that were particularly novel as well as a feast of Hoover models that we just didn't have in the UK. Our town had integration of Americans and Scots everywhere, but the military also had a section of land whereby American voltage/power station was embedded so that American families could run their appliances. It was a remarkable life, larger than life I'd say even - and Reagan pulled the plug on them tail end of 1991. Our little Scottish town hasn't really recovered since. My mum also fondly remembers that she loved the Americans for bringing "Pampers" into her life - or whatever they were called at the time. In the UK we had to make do with heavy nappies you wash, but oh no, the Americans had already had disposable nappies in the 1970s well before the UK had seen them, 10, or 15 years later! As for me, some of my cookware is also vintage Corningware - it appeared very slowly in the UK in the 1990's and then disappeared, only being able to buy certain pieces from trader companies, like Scotts of Stowe. Corningware is just so versatile - it's like Pyrex that you can put on your hob, in the fridge/freezer in the microwave AND the oven. Typically American (ours show "made in the USA") but the company turn out to be French/Swiss- it's so easy - unlike traditional Pyrex that can only be used in 3 applications out of 4. Yet now, by the demands of our struggling economy, a lot of buyers are just making do with what they have - and buying the basics. Supermarket brands have never had it so good with buyers now tending to go for "Value" products - and of course Made In China products - based on price alone. | ||
| Post# 261280 , Reply# 73 12/30/2013 at 23:52 (3,766 days old) by AlexHoovers94 (Manchester UK) | ||
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Hate UPRIGHTS!!!!!! Christ...I can barley stand!! I would rather not vacuum at all than use a cylinder.
I find it pointless having a cylinder with a powerhead, whats the point? that just makes it more heavy and clunky, plus an upright would and will perform better anyway, as it has the bottom weight to it, but is still easy to move around. The majour thing though, for me, is that with an upright it is all there infront of you unlike a cylinder and you not having to worry about pulling this "thing" around that inevitably will get caught on everything. Horses for corses I guess. | ||
| Post# 261296 , Reply# 74 12/31/2013 at 06:17 (3,766 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2) | ||
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Alex - just because your classic Hoover uprights are bottom heavy, doesn't mean they will automatically clean well for all floors. Whilst I agree that cylinder/canister vacs would have a heavy power nozzle, they do work well for those in homes that have carpets AND awkward areas that would be better served with a hose, tube and floor head set up.
It is certainly not "easy" to shove an upright into a tight corner, where I'd imagine the on board tools and hose (where fitted) would come into their own. It is still a bulky compromise though, having to drag a built in short hose and fix whatever tool you need than it is to use a much longer hose from a cylinder/canister vac, far more nimble and not likely to mark anything. It reiterates the point so many times made, that there isn't a perfect vacuum cleaner regardless of brand or type. Its what fits well into the home at the time and what is required that is near perfect. | ||
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