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Post# 169224   2/11/2012 at 14:50 (4,429 days old) by szymonrules (Philadelphia, PA )   |   | |
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Post# 169225 , Reply# 1   2/11/2012 at 14:51 (4,429 days old) by szymonrules (Philadelphia, PA )   |   | |
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Post# 169228 , Reply# 2   2/11/2012 at 15:33 (4,429 days old) by sanitairered (Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 169230 , Reply# 3   2/11/2012 at 15:58 (4,429 days old) by director12 ()   |   | |
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The Mieles were more sealed than the Navigator. |
Post# 169235 , Reply# 4   2/11/2012 at 17:27 (4,429 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)   |   | |
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One thing they don't mention in the infomercial is that although the vacuum is a Sealed HEPA vacuum, that it uses a WASHABLE HEPA filter! To me, that's a BAD thing, not a good thing at all! What's the point of saying it's sealed & implying it's got a quality filtration system when you're not using a True HEPA H12 filter, like Miele & Bosch?? Kinda stupid if you ask me!
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Post# 169240 , Reply# 5   2/11/2012 at 18:30 (4,428 days old) by director12 ()   |   | |
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I demand Euro-Pro go out of business. They make the worst vacuums in the world. |
Post# 169245 , Reply# 6   2/11/2012 at 19:04 (4,428 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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Ive seen the leftaway is cheaply made . Dont buy it |
Post# 169251 , Reply# 8   2/11/2012 at 20:11 (4,428 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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Post# 169255 , Reply# 9   2/11/2012 at 20:37 (4,428 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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i would have to disagree. ive used it . electorlux is better |
Post# 169256 , Reply# 10   2/11/2012 at 21:16 (4,428 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Don't knock it too much. The build quality may be cheap, but these Navigators have actually performed very well in Consumer Reports testing. I know it's a little shocking, but the Shark/Europro people sometimes (not always!) come up with something that works well. I can't remember the exact details I posted on Vacuumland some time ago, but the Navigator is one of the better bagless machines, believe it or not.....
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Post# 169262 , Reply# 11   2/11/2012 at 21:28 (4,428 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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said it was the BEST vacuum out there all I meant was for the price and all the negativity about the brand I was really supprised at the quality of a machine that I used to think was junk . Brian is right the shark vacuum did very well in consumer reports . I now think that the current shark models are vastly improved . Remember Hyundai ??? now look at that brand . I also own the Shark steam mop and it is the best floor steamer out there . Most every friend and relative own a Shark steam mop. They always ask me what I think about the Shark navigator vacuum and I now can say it is a pretty impressive vacuum that has improved itself just like the Hyundai car brand .
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Post# 169270 , Reply# 12   2/11/2012 at 23:02 (4,428 days old) by director12 ()   |   | |
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Post# 169289 , Reply# 13   2/12/2012 at 00:10 (4,428 days old) by szymonrules (Philadelphia, PA )   |   | |
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Hope I didn't create a lot of negativity it I did than sorry about that, but what I meant was that that shark makes OK vacuums that don't necessarily last lobut their claims are really over the top! I mean I know they're trying to sell a product, but they try their hardest to negatively impact another brand. Btw I have used one at my friends house a few times and we both thinks its really flimsy but it DOES get the job done and kirbyloverdan, I know what you mean with the Hyundais! Mtuy dad owned a 97 sonata and something broke in it atleast twice a week! Ever since than, he won't even look in Hyundais way! He says the only good thing about them is the engine! He says this even though his cousin just bought a 2012 sonata!
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Post# 169313 , Reply# 14   2/12/2012 at 09:05 (4,428 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 169322 , Reply# 16   2/12/2012 at 10:36 (4,428 days old) by redgeminipa (Altoona, PA)   |   | |
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We returned the Dyson DC28 after it came back from being repaired, because it STILL wasn't pulling the dirt that the Shark pulled. |
Post# 169332 , Reply# 17   2/12/2012 at 12:58 (4,428 days old) by sanitairered (Michigan)   |   | |
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Post# 169340 , Reply# 18   2/12/2012 at 13:57 (4,428 days old) by szymonrules (Philadelphia, PA )   |   | |
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Post# 169346 , Reply# 20   2/12/2012 at 15:50 (4,428 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)   |   | |
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defend the Shark to unreasonable people but I just checked some of the ages and I now know I was trying to defend a well made decent product to children . Next time I guess I will only respond to the Adults on the site .I have over 39 years experience with almost every model ever made but learned more about vacuums as I grew up .
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Post# 169359 , Reply# 22   2/12/2012 at 18:38 (4,427 days old) by godfreys_guy (Melbourne, Australia)   |   | |
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is one of the best performing vacs I have EVER used. Although it isn't cheap here in australia (at $400) it is a really good vacuum cleaner. It feels relatively solid, grooms the pile well and has amazing pick-up. If you see the photo beneath, that is vacuuming just the lounge-room after about 4hrs before with the Sentria. The thing just mows along, it's quiet, and very manouverable. I know it prob won't last the 10yr warranty but even if you got 3-4 I could buy 8 of them for the price of 1 kirby!
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Post# 169402 , Reply# 23   2/13/2012 at 05:44 (4,427 days old) by director12 ()   |   | |
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I have noticed people bash the Navigator for not having a carpet height adjustment, and the warranties not being honored. |
Post# 169458 , Reply# 24   2/13/2012 at 19:36 (4,426 days old) by szymonrules (Philadelphia, PA )   |   | |
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Post# 169487 , Reply# 27   2/14/2012 at 06:51 (4,426 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)   |   | |
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Benny - Shark vacuums began when someone in North America decided to produce a very powerful handvac and promote it with direct marketing and television infomercials - especially during the Christmas shopping season. The hand-vac was shaped as a chubby, little shark and hence the name. It was probably produced very cheaply in China just when that country started producing household appliances for all the major American companies.
The little Shark probably sold very well. Because the English name would not go over well in French parts of Canada, someone decided to use the name Euro-Pro on the French infomercials in Canada. This is how the infomercial-driven brand was created in North America. I think the next tv promotion in the line up was the Shark cordless floor sweeper. The cheap Chinese-made Shark handvac and floor sweeper is what launched this company - and it seems to have grown in popularity for those who buy their cleaning equipment at Walmart and Canadian Tire and Zellers here in Canada. Consumer Reports has not given high marks to the latest Shark cordless sweeper (the VX3 has really poor edge cleaning and can't pick up pet hair very well). But it's tests show that the Navigator is one of the better bagless upright vacs: Here's their summary of the Navigator Lift Away NV352 (the 351, 350 and 356 all received similar marks): "Consider this bagless upright if light weight is worth a few compromises. Impressive carpet and floor cleaning and easy handling in a machine that weighs a mere 14 pounds are the high points. You also get suction control, which helps protects drapes when using tools, and a brush on/off switch, which safeguards bare floors and prevents scattered dust and debris. But tool airflow was just so-so and pet-hair pickup subpar. The LiftAway also lacks a manual carpet-height adjustment, which is better than automatic systems at matching the brush to the surface. And emptying a bagless vac's bin is a dusty, messy process. Among upright brands, Shark has been a solid performer in our tests over the past several years, though a notch below Miele and LG overall. Highs • Excels at removing embedded dirt from carpets • Performs well when cleaning bare floors; ideal for kitchens, bathrooms, and hardwood floors • Excels in capturing all the dust it picks up, which is good if you have allergies or respiratory illnesses • Has suction control, which helps protects drapes when using tools • Has a brush on/off switch, which safeguards bare floors and prevents scattered dust and debris Lows • The on/off switch is inconveniently placed • Requires manually emptying the bin, which is messier and sometimes presents problems for those with allergies or respiratory issues • Lacks a manual carpet-height adjustment, which is better than automatic systems at matching the brush to the surface Detailed test results CARPET CLEANING: The Shark Navigator Lift Away NV352 does a very good job of removing the embedded mixture of sand and powder from our soiled test carpets. This is a measure of how well a vacuum removes the dirt hidden deep in the carpet and not visible to the user's eye. BARE FLOOR: The Shark does an excellent job of removing sand from our vinyl floor, leaving very little behind and not scattering sand across the floor. PET HAIR: This model does a fair job at picking up pet hair from carpets using its power head. The visual inspection of the test carpet following the pet hair test reveals traces of pet hair left behind and pet hair is caught in the brush roll. USABILITY: The Shark is lightweight which is a plus when carrying from room to room. It also has a swivel head design for maneuvering around furniture. Another helpful aspect is its ability to detach the canister from the power head which allows for more mobility when using tools to clean. Its power switch is a bit lower than most on the vacuum's body." Here's a picture of the "Shark-faced" hand vac that started it all: CLICK HERE TO GO TO eurekaprince's LINK |
Post# 169507 , Reply# 28   2/14/2012 at 09:35 (4,426 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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VR - Shark have used a lot of Morphy Richards upright vacuums as well as horrible model that I once owned called "Vax Quicklite Widetrack." The current Shark Navigator Lift Away everyone is talking about is also being sold here in the UK. Unsurprisingly it's by Morphy Richards under the "Clarity" tag and "Never Loses Suction," rather elongated name now appearing on Amazon. (photo shows 73410 model)
However all the UK line up can be seen on site as well as video: www.flixfacts.com/view/mediaplaye... Video shows it going under an open stool easily to link how low flat it is - shame the rectangular bin would get in the way if I tried it under my open bed. Only one vacuum gets under there successfully - SEBO X series! Someone else mentioned the Shark Steam mop - the purple one has been in the UK before under the unfortunate name of Daewoo and other Chinese companies. I nearly bought it but decided to go with the Hometek light n easy. All Chinese made! |
Post# 169544 , Reply# 30   2/14/2012 at 16:33 (4,426 days old) by director12 ()   |   | |
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Um, Euro-Pro Fantoms are just as awful. And why did Euro-Pro focus more on Shark and keep Fantom as a sideline? |
Post# 169599 , Reply# 32   2/15/2012 at 03:06 (4,425 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)   |   | |
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Thanks for that. I do like the comment about the price of the TV set. That rings true for over here as well. |
Post# 169611 , Reply# 33   2/15/2012 at 06:51 (4,425 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Lets not forget though Venson, where Miele vacs in the U.S are concerned, the model line ups consist of fixed priced products (old stock reduction prices excepted) that have had tools specifically linked to them.
In the UK department stores and places such as Comet, Currys and even Dixons allow buyers to custom build their Miele vacs, so they don't pay a higher price as U.S buyers are made to. Also the cost price of German products here in the UK may well look expensive but when compared to the U.S prices, by god the Americans are being pushed to pay MAJOR costs when buying any of the German vacuum cleaners. But then on the other side of the coin, American products sold in the UK command a high price too - the cost price of an Oreck here is ridiculous when buying new and we don't get the latest models, either. |
Post# 169825 , Reply# 34   2/16/2012 at 21:36 (4,423 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 169851 , Reply# 36   2/17/2012 at 07:19 (4,423 days old) by joshdonnell ()   |   | |
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But... I would rather spend the money thats gonna last me longer and you see the shark last 20 years lik miele . The reason becuse they are not made like a miele simple as that |
Post# 169859 , Reply# 38   2/17/2012 at 09:06 (4,423 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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Post# 169897 , Reply# 39   2/17/2012 at 16:19 (4,423 days old) by trebor ()   |   | |
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however, the internet has been with us long enough to alter the way we shop |
Post# 169985 , Reply# 42   2/18/2012 at 10:22 (4,422 days old) by director12 ()   |   | |
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Um, how come Euro-Pro kept Fantom as a sideline? |
Post# 169987 , Reply# 43   2/18/2012 at 10:35 (4,422 days old) by sebo_fan (Scotland, UK, member AKA ukvacfan, & Nar2)   |   | |
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