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Electrolux Canister Motor Pre-Filter? |
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Post# 164860 , Reply# 1   1/5/2012 at 20:45 (4,465 days old) by kirbee ()   |   | |
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There is no pre motor filter on lux canisters. Ann |
Post# 164935 , Reply# 5   1/6/2012 at 17:06 (4,465 days old) by danemodsandy ()   |   | |
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I have NEVER had an Electrolux bag burst, and I've been using their vacs off and on - mostly on - since 1973. I have used hundreds, if not thousands, of their bags over the years. |
Post# 164985 , Reply# 6   1/7/2012 at 05:05 (4,464 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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To me.....Not only do Electrolux's have the easiest bag system (completely idiot proof) but the bags are cheaper than any other vacuum brands (especially the aftermarket bags)... I got a case of 100 4 ply bags for 35.00 for my Epic 6500. I can literally change a bag every single time I vacuum (but I don't). I end up using my Rainbow most of the time. If you look at other aftermarket bags for other vacuum brands, they are not as cheap. When I had my Kenmore canister I could never find anything close to that price on bags.
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Post# 165057 , Reply# 8   1/7/2012 at 19:41 (4,463 days old) by rainbowjoel (Dexter NM)   |   | |
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Do you guys recommend Genuine home solution Aerus bags? Or other bags are better than Aerus? |
Post# 165818 , Reply# 10   1/13/2012 at 20:31 (4,457 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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I have only used genuine Electrolux/Aerus paper bags in any Electrolux machine I have ever owned and I still use them in my Renaissance. The cost of the genuine bags is fairly reasonable, probably around a $1.50 per bag when you buy a box of 24 bags.
However, in my Electrolux machines that use the original "C" bags, I now will only use the Prefect Canister HEPA bags. They are a huge improvement over the traditional paper bags as they offer superior filtration and you can also really pack these HEPA bags with much more dirt before you ever notice a considerable loss in power. I highly recommend buying them if you use your Lux tank on a regular basis because they really are worth the higher cost. I just wish that they made the HEPA bags for the "R" style machines. |
Post# 165838 , Reply# 12   1/14/2012 at 01:52 (4,457 days old) by Davinator1977 ()   |   | |
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These bags are actually made by Electrolux home care products. They are my favourite to use. I have also tried the hepa bags but i find they cut down the suction on the old machines |
Post# 166008 , Reply# 13   1/16/2012 at 02:48 (4,455 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)   |   | |
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Post# 166155 , Reply# 14   1/17/2012 at 14:12 (4,454 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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uLloyd, from my experience with the Perfect bags they do not reduce the airflow. If anything, they maintain the airflow much longer than the paper bags. I've been using them for close to a year now in my Epic 6000, the Diamond Jubilee that I have at my grandmothers house, and in the Lux Classic I bought for my bf's mom. The Aerus Lux Classic gets used the most out of every machine, usually twice a week, and you can really fill the bags. I tend to change them before the get really full since I have never let the bag in my Electrolux's get to full, or any other machine I own for that matter.
One other important thing I have noticed is the HEPA bags seem to cut down on that "old dirt smell" that is emitted from the machine. All machines that use a bag at one point or another, no matter what kind of bag or filter they use will inevitably emit this smell. However this smell comes much later with use of the HEPA bags. I think I change the bag in the Classic about once every month to month and a half and at that point its usually about 3/4 of the way full. Keep in mind it is not the daily driver in the house, my bf's mom vacuums her wall to wall almost every day with her bagless Eureka Altima upright, and the Electrolux probably cleans this same carpet only once a week. To put it into perspective, there is w2w carpeting in only 2 rooms in the entire house, one of which is the living room/hallway at the front of the house and this carpet probably only equals about a 20x15ft span. The Lux pulls a lot of dirt out of this rug and we all know that Lux isn’t the best at deep cleaning, but the majority of the dirt that fills the bag comes from what the Eureka has missed in the carpet. If I used paper bags, I wouldn't get as much out of the rug and I would probably go through 2 paper bags for every one HEPA bag in order to maintain the Classic's cleaning ability. |
Post# 166225 , Reply# 16   1/18/2012 at 00:52 (4,453 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Speaking of the Perfect hepa bags.........Does anyone who buys these know the best prices? I don't know why I'm asking! I have so many C paper bags it's ridiculous. I did cut into one because they are so cheap and they are four layers. I too wondered why my epic 6500 didn't have the pre motor filter. It just has the bag and the after filter on top. Does any dirt that escapes the bag go into the motor at all (like fine dust)? I haven't noticed any in the bag chamber as of yet.
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Post# 166337 , Reply# 18   1/19/2012 at 02:22 (4,452 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York)   |   | |
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Mark, the last time I purchased a box of Perfect HEPA bags they were around $18 from totalvac.com and each box contains 8 bags. There has never been a pre-motor filter in any Electrolux canister and while their bags do leak dust, they don't leak like a sieve. If you wipe out the inside of the bag compartment after changing the bag a few times you will notice a slight residue but it should be minor.
Electrolux power nozzles up until the past 4 years or so, did not have a brush roll that was aggressive enough to really dig down into carpeting. They would clean the surface well and if you used the machine daily you probably wouldn't have an issue with how well it deep cleaned. The latest style brush roll has an extra "turn" of bristles and this has lead to a huge improvement in cleaning ability over the previous brush roll that was used in all Electrolux machines for the past 15+ years. When it comes to Lux power nozzles they just dont have enough weight and previously didnt have the necessary air flow/suction power to clean some of todays dense modern carpeting. The more recent machines do have a stronger motor which is a great help but they still don't clean for example like a Miele. The only canister machines I have in my collection right now are Electrolux/Aerus tanks and while I do love them, I'd find it hard to buy one brand new knowing that I could purchase a Miele for the same price. If you have lots of bare floors and very little carpeting than a Lux canister would probably be a wonderful choice. However, if you have large amounts of wall to wall then a Miele would probably do a better job. But no matter how well a Miele cleans, for me you just cant beat the way a Lux tank can be steared around a house. The tanks for me are just much easier to manuever around furniture, through hallways, and over door jams than any Miele canister I've ever had. But this is just my own personal preferance and it certainly doesn't affect the machines cleaning ability. |
Post# 166338 , Reply# 19   1/19/2012 at 02:52 (4,452 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)   |   | |
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Good point about the weight of the PN. I notice that when I use my Rainbow, the PN has a much heavier feel to it and feels like it's really digging into my berber carpet as opposed the the Epic 6500 PN......But I still think the Epic 6500 does a good job and has decent suction, but it does NOT have quite as much suction as the Renny I had for a short time before I got the 6500. I guess the word would be adequate suction (though I hate using that word). The ONLY thing I don't like about the Epic 6500 is that there is no on board storage for the floor tool. I find that when I'm cleaning and want to stop to change to the floor tool & keep it sitting kind of on top of the machine but it ends up falling off and I have to go look for it. I can't believe they didn't design a place for it. But it's a super super easy machine to use and is almost perfect for me to get out to run through the house really quick since I have 2 cats. It gets all the cat hair. Mine is the solid grey one that I'm sure is over fifteen yrs old but it looks almost new. I don't think there's a scratch on it. I think the brushroll in it is new but it's aftermarket.
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