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Thread Number: 15442
Compact C5 with ABC Power Nozzle |
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| Post# 164097 , Reply# 1 12/31/2011 at 18:22 (4,492 days old) by KC_Kirby (Kansas City, MO) | ||
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Notice there is a suction relief near the power nozzle and not up around where you would hold the hose when vacuuming, an odd location. It's that gray piece of plastic a few inches up from the bottom of the wand. 
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| Post# 164098 , Reply# 2 12/31/2011 at 18:23 (4,492 days old) by KC_Kirby (Kansas City, MO) | ||
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This is where the hose attaches to the wand, you can tell the wires were put together and taped. 
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| Post# 164099 , Reply# 3 12/31/2011 at 18:24 (4,492 days old) by KC_Kirby (Kansas City, MO) | ||
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this is bottom of the rugplate. 
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| Post# 164101 , Reply# 4 12/31/2011 at 18:25 (4,492 days old) by KC_Kirby (Kansas City, MO) | ||
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This is model number information. 
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| Post# 164102 , Reply# 5 12/31/2011 at 18:26 (4,492 days old) by KC_Kirby (Kansas City, MO) | ||
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And this is the power nozzle plug on the vacuum. Its way back on top by the power switch. An odd location to put it and the later Compact/TriStars had the plug in the front on the bottom so it was nearer to the hose. 
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| Post# 164127 , Reply# 7 12/31/2011 at 21:58 (4,492 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
 Now this is what the Vintage Forum is all about, in my mind.
Spectacular find, Chad! I am feeling your Thrill! We must have more pictures... I've never seen an ABC in person either but I have been collecting pictures of them. Super rare and I can tell you why yours is one of the rarest of the series.
First off, it's 'Patents Pending' indicating it is one of the first produced and sold. But more significant are the lack of rollers. Here's a pic of the second version to which two small rollers have been added to the brush plate. Like the 1957/58 Lewyt 107 Motorized Beater Sweeper the polished brush-plate was meant to glide effortlessly over short nap pile carpet but as longer tufts became the fashion it had a tendency to bog down digging in to the plush, so rollers were added to the second Lewyt PN when it went 'electronic'. I suspect it was the same finding with the ABC. 
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| Post# 164128 , Reply# 8 12/31/2011 at 22:33 (4,492 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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Another interesting feature of the later one, and we will need side view pictures of yours to confirm my suspicions but...
You say the cord runs all the way - un-connectable - from the PN up the wand (and probably was extended as long as the hose to reach back to the Compact - just like the Lewyt 107 PN cord).
I can see it is a later hose but it is admirable that is is a genuine Compact woven hose. Possibly when the hose & cord repair was done it seemed best to simply splice a new cord to the one-piece wand (that is most definitely a one piece Turquoise kwrinkle-tone enameled Compact wand).
I'm not entirely convinced that the original and replacement hoses would not have had Compact curved handles - it is possible it's a direct connect but as you say it is kinda awkward under hand - but you'll only know that when you remove the new hose from the wand and test fit a Compact handle (that's what I'd do and if the wand barrel will accept it I'd put a Compact handle on it). The black cement smears would support the idea that the handle was left off and the new hose simply glued on.
As you can see on the second version, the wand was a friction fit while the backside of the ferrule has a separate 2 pin connector so that the PN can be disconnected and removed from the wand which can now accept regular Compact accessories.
If yours doesn't have this 2-pin socket then BINGO! I'd say you have a true first-run rarity. And even if it does and it has been disabled it would be a snap to re-introduce it. My ruminations about how this could have happened are: the pin socket somehow got destroyed and so the cord, which would have been very long anyway, was run directly to the PN motor, the cord was shortened and electrical-taped to the top of the wand where it was spliced to a new Electrolux G PN cord. Yes, I'm guessing here but the color is somewhat of a clue - the pin plug end for the Compact socket...we need a picture.
It's a beautiful thing, Chad and a genuine piece of the historical puzzle. Congratulations.
Dave 
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| Post# 164136 , Reply# 9 1/1/2012 at 00:44 (4,492 days old) by Brandon_W_T () | ||
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OH CHAD!!!!! THIS IS FABULOUS!!!! This compact nut sitting here is in compact heaven looking at these wounderful images! My grandpas compact has that power nozzle port. Its a c6 if I recall correctly. Sadly no ABC nozzle that he knows of. 
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| Post# 164139 , Reply# 10 1/1/2012 at 00:58 (4,491 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 164145 , Reply# 11 1/1/2012 at 03:18 (4,491 days old) by goadie12 () | ||
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Wow that's a amazing find if I ever saw one I have been looking for a power nozzel for my lewyt that a found a while back and it is damn near impossible so ya that is awesome how you found a complete system like that congrats. Zach | ||
| Post# 164180 , Reply# 13 1/1/2012 at 11:04 (4,491 days old) by KC_Kirby (Kansas City, MO) | ||
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Another view showing the top of the connection. 
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| Post# 164186 , Reply# 15 1/1/2012 at 11:43 (4,491 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 164187 , Reply# 16 1/1/2012 at 11:56 (4,491 days old) by collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk) | ||
Hi guys:
From the ad above it appears that the hose was connected directly to the wand and the handgrip was just a plastic piece to hold it curved and give you a place to hold. More than likely either the plastic broke or was broken when they tried to take the old hose off. As far as it not being plugged into the vacuum simple answer - Product Photography. It looked much neater to hide the cord behind rather than to have it draped across the machine for the picture. LOL - thats my speculation on the subject anyway. Happy New Year all Doug | ||
| Post# 164190 , Reply# 18 1/1/2012 at 12:49 (4,491 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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Thank you so much, Chad; exactly what I wanted to see. That advert is priceless for all the detailed information. And extra cool - it's the 3-wheel C-6! The second version PN has an extended cast barrel to accommodate a 2-pin plug.
I agree with Doug about the handle. That means the hose was dedicated to the PN and a second regular hose would be needed for the manual accessories...
The advert shows what may be yet a third variation (but more likely the complete 2nd version) - notice that the wand has an additional collar that mates with the PN. Possibly this is the detachable PN version; the PN I have pictured from an eBay auction did not include a wand. Yours shows no evidence it had that extra collar so again I say yours is the debut Compact PN before tweaked improvements were added.
It is in remarkably good condition and a true prize.
Dave 
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| Post# 164202 , Reply# 24 1/1/2012 at 14:37 (4,491 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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| Post# 164277 , Reply# 26 1/2/2012 at 00:24 (4,491 days old) by Brandon_W_T () | ||
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The front-rear discussion on compacts has always bugged me. The correct "front" of the machine is actually where the caster wheels are, with the suction inlet as well. It just seems backwards, and crazy, but its right! | ||
| Post# 164278 , Reply# 27 1/2/2012 at 00:25 (4,491 days old) by Brandon_W_T () | ||
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Another way to think of it, is where the cord comes in. Why would the cord enter the machine front? Every canister has the hose at front and cord at rear. :) | ||
| Post# 164584 , Reply# 28 1/3/2012 at 23:58 (4,489 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS) | ||
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| Post# 164585 , Reply# 29 1/4/2012 at 00:02 (4,489 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS) | ||
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| Post# 164601 , Reply# 31 1/4/2012 at 07:26 (4,488 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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RE Poster! They also have the C6 shown as being made from 61-70..NOT! The c5 was being made as late as 1962, I know this because I have an owners manual...also, the machine pictured is a c5 not c6, c5 had one caster, c6 had 2. | ||
| Post# 164688 , Reply# 34 1/4/2012 at 21:49 (4,488 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS) | ||
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| Post# 164878 , Reply# 36 1/6/2012 at 00:45 (4,486 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS) | ||
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Well part of the story is true, jason came over for a visit and we made a vacuum trade for the 66. I gave him a Regina brush n beat for that MINT 66. While we were hanging out I got board and decided to do some work on my house ( the house was under construction at that time ) Jason said what can I do to help and I said take a hammer and knock out that wall. He thought I was kidding because that wall went into the next room. So I took the hammer and busted it through the wall, his mouth dropped open. lol He thought I had lost my mind. I had decided right then I wanted to make the two rooms one big room. We had a blast tearing it out. Then we told everyone I threw his ass through that wall a took the Convertible.
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| Post# 320187 , Reply# 37 4/3/2015 at 00:20 (3,304 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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I just found a Compact C6 with ABC PN on the curb! Previous owner completely worn out bristles & cloth bag torn; I will give it a spa treatment How can I rebristle the brush roller? Will the TriStar CXL flat belt fit the ABC PN? Mine is probably a late version like this one 
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Post# 320216 , Reply# 38 4/3/2015 at 09:34 (3,303 days old) by kloveland  (Tulsa) |
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| Post# 320258 , Reply# 39 4/3/2015 at 12:07 (3,303 days old) by constellation86 (Roy, UT) | ||
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Wow lucky find! | ||
| Post# 371841 , Reply# 41 5/6/2017 at 12:55 (2,539 days old) by Mandy104 (Chesapeake City, MD) | ||
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My machine | ||
| Post# 371849 , Reply# 42 5/6/2017 at 16:45 (2,539 days old) by dysonman1 (the county) | ||
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| Post# 371852 , Reply# 43 5/6/2017 at 21:33 (2,539 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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