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Thread Number: 14948
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| Post# 158482 , Reply# 1 11/9/2011 at 11:10 (4,543 days old) by lunchboxsean () | ||
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Any Dyson with a Turbo Brush... | ||
| Post# 158484 , Reply# 2 11/9/2011 at 11:26 (4,543 days old) by baglessball () | ||
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See i think they nearly have it with the tubine head. I think if had stiff bristes and a high torque turbine itd be good! But it doesnt, so is a diapointment! | ||
Post# 158486 , Reply# 3 11/9/2011 at 11:41 (4,543 days old) by sleepdoc  (St. Louis, MO) |
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Hate to say it...
The Dyson DC21 and DC23 Motorhead. The unprecedentedly long nozzle makes using small attachments nearly impossible. It's a great carpet cleaner, but the only thing that makes it functionally different from an upright is the floor brush that allows it to clean wood floors better than an upright. The turbine models don't have this problem, but I don't like the turbinehead attachments because they're less effective on carpet. Dyson really needs to get it right with the canisters.
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| Post# 158491 , Reply# 4 11/9/2011 at 12:43 (4,543 days old) by lunchboxsean () | ||
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Another one would be... Virtually all hand vacs!! Cmon... Aren't they horrible usually? | ||
| Post# 158536 , Reply# 6 11/9/2011 at 22:31 (4,543 days old) by broomvac (N/A) | ||
I guess you could call it a vacuum | ||
| Post# 158543 , Reply# 7 11/9/2011 at 23:39 (4,543 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
 dyson dc23 animal with turbine head, those turbine heads don't work well and always break, I agree they have almost created a god one but the fact that its centred bushes can't handle the weight of the brushes and were out all the time. not my favorite. I see they have a new design out on the dc36/39 will see how that works when it gets to us | ||
| Post# 158546 , Reply# 9 11/10/2011 at 04:37 (4,542 days old) by baglessball () | ||
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Sean do you mean rechargable hand vacs, or mains one? | ||
| Post# 158547 , Reply# 10 11/10/2011 at 05:34 (4,542 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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| Post# 158554 , Reply# 11 11/10/2011 at 08:57 (4,542 days old) by RainbowD4C (Saint Joseph, Michigan ) | ||
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| Post# 158555 , Reply# 12 11/10/2011 at 09:12 (4,542 days old) by lunchboxsean () | ||
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I mean virtually all hand vacs. Though, cordless ones are even worse. | ||
| Post# 158557 , Reply# 14 11/10/2011 at 09:22 (4,542 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC) | ||
I mean virtually all hand vacs. Though, cordless ones are ev
I definitely disagree with that one. A good bit of our impulse sales are made up of hand vacs. If you use them for their purpose, then they are actually very good. Upholstery, stairs, boats, and cars are some of the uses for these guys. Some of my favorites:
Royal Pro Series Hand Vac (bagless version of the original Royal Handvac from the 80s) This thing has a 4 year warranty, nice helix brushroll and is fairly reasonably priced Hoover Lynx Cordless Handvac Haven't had a single one in for warranty or had any complaints and we have sold quite a few of them. Dyson Cordless Don't have much experience with them, but people seem to like them Riccar Gem Hand Vac Full set of attachments, great suction, and bargain priced at $32.99 | ||
| Post# 158570 , Reply# 16 11/10/2011 at 12:14 (4,542 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC) | ||
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| Post# 158577 , Reply# 18 11/10/2011 at 13:42 (4,542 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
twocvbloke....
I completely agree with your choice. My other half has an Electrolux Gazzelle (which is a rebaged Vitesse) and I honestly cannot express how much hatred I have for that cheap heap of plastic! The only reason it picks up anything is because it has the most aggressive brushroll of any machine I've used. The suction is poor, the tools are cheap and it's PAINFULLY loud!
I don't really like bagless vacuums, and I do hold Dyson purely responsible for the heap of cheap, crappy bagless uprights on the market today. I always say, if you're gonna go bagless, get a Dyson or a Vax Mach. Having said that, the current range of Hoover Pureshite..SORRY Purepower bagged vacuums are pretty horrid. Very average performance, stupidly high wattage motors that get too hot and cheaply made. Btw baglessball - nice to see some more Yorkshire folk appearing on here. Where are you from? | ||
| Post# 158579 , Reply# 19 11/10/2011 at 14:07 (4,542 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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The dc23 is our most troublesome dyson due only to the turbine head. the turbine that drives it shatters and the bushes in the main axle dry out and become clogged with dust, they are always jamming up and breaking. I love dysons but not that turbine head. I prefer to sell a customer an upright model , they not only clean better but last longer and in my opinion are more woth the money than the cylinders | ||
| Post# 158585 , Reply# 21 11/10/2011 at 15:17 (4,542 days old) by bimmer740 (Long Island, New York) | ||
I haven't used a Dyson canister yet but I don't understand why they stopped offering an electric power nozzle in the US. How can they think their turbo nozzles will compete with other canister vacs sold here in the same price range?
Can anyone explain why electric power nozzle canisters are rarely offered in the UK? I know there is probably less wall to wall carpet, but even if you have an area rug, it still needs a good deep cleaning. BTW, I think one of the worst vacs created were the old Bissell Lift Off upright, it was a very akward machine. | ||
| Post# 158588 , Reply# 22 11/10/2011 at 16:20 (4,542 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
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Hi Steven, I'm not sure why here in the UK we rarely have cylinders with electric power nozzles. I doubt it's to do with us having less wall to wall carpet now. Not that long ago most homes in the UK had wall to wall carpet.
Most of the time we've had a stronger upright market so if someone wants a electric powered revolving brush roller they have gone for a upright over a cylinder/canister with a electric head that is normally more expensive. And kept to cylinders with straight suction head/air driven turbine if they prefer that style vac. If you go in to Europe they seem to sell far more cylinders than uprights. Hence they seem to get more cylinders with electric heads. Interesting question tho:o) James:o) | ||
| Post# 158589 , Reply# 23 11/10/2011 at 16:34 (4,542 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England) | ||
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Oh
Oh and vacuum cleaners I'm not keen on are ones sold by big chain stores under there name.
Not made by them just bought in cheap from the far east and they put there name on them.Then when customers want parts(bags,belts,filters,body spares etc) for them they become very quickly no longer available/obsolete so they will go out and buy another one of there cheap poor quality vacuum cleaner. James:o) | ||
| Post# 158593 , Reply# 24 11/10/2011 at 18:05 (4,542 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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XXX "Royal Clown [oops, Crown] Signature Series" bagless cyclonic canister vac. Almost any of today's dept. store vacs are junk. :) Here's a pic of the Royal Clown (sorry, I mean Royal Crown Signature s--t) made by XXX Corporation XXX is now owned by Ningbo Electric of Shanghai, China. 
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| Post# 158594 , Reply# 25 11/10/2011 at 18:07 (4,542 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere) | ||
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The Hoover Elite Cyclonic is FAR better than the XXX version; although both are the exact same design. :) | ||
| Post# 158668 , Reply# 27 11/11/2011 at 16:43 (4,541 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada) | ||
I have never been able to understand the usefulness of uprights which do not allow you to shut off the brush roll, and yet still have a "bare floor" setting on their height adjuster! Who would ever want to scratch their floor surfaces with these rapidly revolving brush rolls? Even if the suction was good enough to over-ride the "blowing" effect of the spinning brush roll?
And these kind of uprights are the worst offenders when it comes to jammed brush rolls - their suction draws in unseen socks and plastic bags too fast for you to grab them off the bare floor to prevent jamming the brushroll. I also can't see how these vacs can ever be approved for safety when you use their hoses for above the floor cleaning. If you can't shut off the brush roll, you are just inviting injuries as the spinning brush in the raised nozzle can grab onto anything in its path and can injure feet and hands if you're not careful. They should prohibit any upright from being marketed for non-carpet use unless you can stop or cover the brush roll. | ||
| Post# 158692 , Reply# 28 11/11/2011 at 20:45 (4,541 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
Here's a head-scratcher oddity.
I really like the cute & compact size of the DC26 Multi Floor ultra-lightweight bagless canister vacuum for all floor types. Dyson's smallest, lightest canister.
And I like the motor-driven floor nozzle on the rechargeable DC35. The rechargeable itself, not so much. www.dyson.com/store/product.aspQU... I always thought it was a no-brainer to pair the two together. Finally Dyson has done it. I am very interested and will consider getting one. US$399.99 for the DC26 Multi Floor on the USA website. www.dyson.com/store/product.aspQU... BUT, in Canada you can only get the DC26 Multi Floor with the cleverly articulated flat Dual channel floor tool and the Turbine head. No electrified hose or motor-driven nozzle option. It's the truth - I downloaded the User manuals for both and yup, no electrified hose or telescopic wand or motor-driven nozzle option. And they want and expect CN$499.99 for it? $100 more plus 13% tax? WTF!!! www.english.dysoncanada.ca/store/... My mama didn't raise her no dumb bunnies. I wonder which state I'll be in that has the lowest sales tax? Mmm, looks like Wisconsin is the winner at 5%. Oh yeah, babe, Best Buy has it in stock. Dave 
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| Post# 158693 , Reply# 29 11/11/2011 at 20:54 (4,541 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin) | ||
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After reading all these posts makes me all the more thankfull that I love my Kirby. I never have to look at another machine for my dialy driver if I chose not to. | ||
| Post# 158694 , Reply# 30 11/11/2011 at 21:40 (4,541 days old) by singingrainbow (Texas) | ||
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Hate to burst your buble but.............. the dc26 in the US does not have an electric power head like the dc35, I know that the heads look the same but the dc26 head is just a turbo brush, sorry dave Scott | ||
| Post# 158699 , Reply# 31 11/11/2011 at 22:40 (4,541 days old) by aeoliandave (Stratford Ontario Canada) | ||
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Right you are Scott.
I examined the User Manual more carefully and the head is called a Turbine. I have no earthly use for air powered Turbine Brushes. The only ones I've found at all effective and torque-y are the PRECO Powr-Brush, the SUNBEAM horizontal flywheel turbine Power Brush, and the Turbocat type that uses a heavy metal horizontal flywheel turbine to drive the 12" wide brushroll via a twisted cogged belt. Rats, Dyson just lost a sale. Well, I'll just leave this here in the most unfit for purpose machine you have come across category. Dave 
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| Post# 158709 , Reply# 33 11/11/2011 at 23:31 (4,541 days old) by thissucks () | ||
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anything dyson makes, unfit for everything but recycled water bottles. | ||
| Post# 158810 , Reply# 35 11/12/2011 at 18:13 (4,540 days old) by baglessball () | ||
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BTW Im in Halifax? between Leeds and Manchester! | ||
| Post# 158811 , Reply# 36 11/12/2011 at 18:19 (4,540 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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^ah, yes, I know Halifax very well! I'm the other side of Bradford to you, near Shipley. Hurray for the Yorkshire folk!
I understand your point regarding the convenience of the Dyson, but I still don't like bagless cleaners. I hate emptying them and having to wash the filters is just such a dirty job! I've also found Dyson to be particularly inefficient when it comes to deep cleaning - especially the clutch models. As much as Dyson make the best bagless vacuums, the brushroll leaves a lot to be desired! | ||
| Post# 158814 , Reply# 37 11/12/2011 at 18:25 (4,540 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Rainbow... | ||
| Post# 158831 , Reply# 40 11/13/2011 at 00:31 (4,540 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL) | ||
"deep cleaning is not there"
I'd have to disagree with you on that one. I own a Dyson DC17 and it is one of my best deep cleaning vacuums, and I have a pretty nice collection, if I say so myself. It has very stiff bristles and a two motor system. Most likely, you have not used one and do not know, so please don't judge a vacuum that you probably do not have experience with.
Chase | ||
| Post# 158834 , Reply# 41 11/13/2011 at 03:37 (4,539 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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Chase I agree , we never got the dc17 here in SA but a few have made there way over and end up in my store for voltage conversion, I couldn't believe the power of that machine. Its awsome , alot of vacuum repair guys judge a machine on how often they see them in there shop and not on how well it works , not realising that if the customer followed the instructions it would never end up there. I repair alot of dc 14's but they are good machines 90% of the time its the customer not cleaning the filter at all forget every 6 months.
One other thing , Eurekaprince
while I agree with you about uprights not having a on /off for the brush roll , the only problem with this is the fact that the dirt is shot out the back of the machine by the fast spinning bristles.
There is no way that the brushes could ever damage the polymer seal or varnish on laminate or proper wood flooring, if it could even scratch the flooring then it would rip your carpets to shreds | ||
| Post# 161031 , Reply# 42 12/4/2011 at 09:53 (4,518 days old) by SuctionSelector (Leeds, England) | ||
turbo500 and baglessball | ||
| Post# 161036 , Reply# 43 12/4/2011 at 10:42 (4,518 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Yorkshire folk... | ||
| Post# 161057 , Reply# 45 12/4/2011 at 13:37 (4,518 days old) by jakesvacs () | ||
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Haha no Buckinghamshire crew! More vacs for me I suppose :) | ||
| Post# 161781 , Reply# 46 12/11/2011 at 18:57 (4,511 days old) by anthony (leeds uk) | ||
yorkshir folk  | ||
| Post# 162594 , Reply# 48 12/18/2011 at 14:25 (4,504 days old) by turbo500 (West Yorkshire, UK) | ||
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Anthony... | ||
| Post# 162662 , Reply# 49 12/19/2011 at 04:32 (4,503 days old) by SuctionSelector (Leeds, England) | ||
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Good ol' Yorkshire | ||
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