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Post# 15201   6/21/2007 at 17:26 (6,152 days old) by seamusuk (Dover Kent UK)        

Hope the seller puts the correct imnstructions with it lol!

Seamus

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Post# 15203 , Reply# 1   6/21/2007 at 17:56 (6,152 days old) by myhooverco ()        

Seamus...

I was wondering when someone would post about the incredible prices of these vacuums. This seller knows what they have and is planning on "doling" out these machines a little each month. They are going to make a killing on them. It seems to be good stuff. Is this particular machine worth that much? I just don't know. I do know that I have a mint condition 1076 in my collection that is just as early as the one listed and I gave one tenth as much. Granted, I do not have the box, but I have everything else. A machine is only worth what someone is willing to pay. In this case, Hoover must be a hot item as the prices for this stuff are out of sight. Does this mean that I won't bid on an item here or there? Maybe if the mood strikes me. I am sure this seller has bitten off more than he/she can chew. I am very sure that they have been swamped with emails of collectors that want this or that to be sold privately. I think that for now I will just sit by the sidelines and watch!

--Tom

Post# 15204 , Reply# 2   6/21/2007 at 19:24 (6,152 days old) by eurekaboy (Raleigh,NC)        

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Yes, the prices on these machines is just getting outrageous. I know that these Hoover Convertibles were NIB and had the manuals and stuff like that but come on. It just seems like recently it has been almost inpossible to buy a hoover convertible at a reasonable price on ebay lately and some of us collectors that don't have hundreds or even thousands of dollars to spend get left in the dark. Oh Well....that's just the nature of the beast.

Stephen

Post# 15205 , Reply# 3   6/21/2007 at 20:55 (6,152 days old) by buffalo-joe ()        
It runs in phases...........

 This is a passing fad concerning high prices. I can remember when I was starting out collecting, Constellations were the "hot" item. You couldn't touch a ratty one for less than $50. Now they seemed to have settled down and Convertibles are the latest. Granted, a Constellation with a box will still fetch a high price, but so will any machine with one. Things will settle down when all the big spenders have what they want or I list some of mine.....(not going there, I call it the 1076 syndrome, Tom, you know what I mean)

These "new" Convertibles are beautiful, but not for $800+. Too rich for my blood. I wish the seller the best though as he is hitting things at the right time. Last evening I counted over $3000 for his completed auctions and I'm sure today its alot more.

I too will just sit and watch the frenzy. And all the while, dust off those beauties of a gold mine I have in my collection. Who needs a 401K when you have Convertibles.

Joe

Post# 15208 , Reply# 4   6/21/2007 at 21:31 (6,152 days old) by lux1521 ()        

I don't think it's just Convertibles. I think all vintage Hoover products from that time period (1950-1980) go for high prices. You also have a hard time getting a Dial-a-Matic or Concept for a good price.

On the other hand my nearly complete 1923 Hoover 541 is probably worth about $50. It seems like models from 1920-1940 are almost completely ignored. Thats fine for me because I like those better anyway.

Now if you try to sell a nice machine from another brand you might even have trouble getting enough money to cover your listing fees.

Anyway, it seems like I'm going to do the same thing most everyone else is doing. Im gonna sit back and watch the action.

Post# 15213 , Reply# 5   6/21/2007 at 23:25 (6,152 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

If I was buying MIB I would want it MIB, meaning NEVER opened. I don't consider a box opened by the seller to be mint any more, why should they have the fun. Hopefully he's not going to open each and every box he sells.

Post# 15228 , Reply# 6   6/22/2007 at 06:48 (6,152 days old) by myhooverco ()        
The 1076 Syndrome...

 Joe you bring up a good point. This will all die down after everyone has spent their money. I bid last night on the 404 and went as high as $150 (outrageous for me to do so!) and the machine went for over $300 in the last 10 seconds. Who knows what will be the next hot Hoover item? Maybe a Futura canister????

Pete you also bring up a valid point. All of the boxes have been opened already! Worse yet, they have put the machines together and turned them on!!! They are no longer MIB. Yet, the seller is getting top dollar. I just hope that he/she repacks them properly and does not ship the item in its original box! Who wants an original box with all of those postal stickers all over it!!!

--Tom

Post# 15232 , Reply# 7   6/22/2007 at 08:37 (6,152 days old) by kirbyvacuum (Long Island New York)        
crazy NOT TRUE VACUUM LOVERS

 Hi TOM I have aHOOVER 707 in mint condition and have been offered from a friend 450.00 for it. I WILL NEVER SELL THAT HOOVER could i use the money FOR SURE My Mother in law who i loved dearly paid in 1971 59.99 plus the sale came with a years supply of bags. How can we say we love vacuums and collect them and sell them also. Something is not right. Tom if you ever have a Hoover Model 65 please let me know. Also thanks again for the parts for the 918 plus handle it WORKS SO VERY WELL. Ok take care hope all is well Doug

Post# 15255 , Reply# 8   6/23/2007 at 03:55 (6,151 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

With those horrondous and rediculous prices it could drive some folks out of the hobby-almost like what happened with old radios and Hi-Fi gear.It would be nice to find a NIB Hoover-but I am not willing to spend $800 for it.Remember at that point it has no warranty-and age and disuse could take its toll on motor bearings-and the belt.I would not start it until you turned the motor over by hand.Sealed bearings DO have a shelf life-wether by themselves or in an assembled motor.They can dry out from age.I have had to replace them in "NIB" products-an Ampex tape machine.I used to work in a power tool repair shop and sometimes the bearing packages-like food- have use by dates.And at my present workplace I have had to throw out bearing that were "new" but the grease had dried out rendering them unusable.

Post# 15270 , Reply# 9   6/23/2007 at 11:54 (6,151 days old) by vacuumkid3 ()        

Well, I must bring up a point that is slightly off topic, but does relate to what we are discussing. If the vacuum is still usable, some people might know that most new vacuums are junk, and they are willing to spend $800 for a good vacuum. These are good, especially in today's sense. I haven't used one, but I sure haven't heard anything bad about them. Now here is my analogy: my twin just sold a Sheaffer's Saratoga Snorkel fountain pen, BRAND NEW, ready to be put on someone's display shelf or in a display case. Someone purchased it for quite a sum of money, especially for a kid! :-D Evan (my twin) asked whether or not the person would be using it. The guy who bought it responded, "Most likely. I am more of a user than a collector." Now here is another thing; Evan sold it fairly cheap, ESPECIALLY considering what new "good" fountain pens go for! Also, these are great pens! Evan was hoping to sell it to a collector, but he also realizes the fact that it is the other person's pen to do what he wants with it, not his. Maybe this poor analogy might shed some light on why this vacuum cleaner went for so much.

~~K~~

Post# 15272 , Reply# 10   6/23/2007 at 12:36 (6,151 days old) by charles~richard ()        


I imagine there are those who, knowing of the quality of Hoovers from the Good Old Days -- especially the Convertibles, the most practical models for day-to-day use -- would be delighted to find one "brand new in the box" to put to good and regular use.

I can't tell you how many times "older" people have told me that they wish they had the Hoover, Eureka, Electrolux or what-have-you that they had when they first set up housekeeping 40 or 50 years ago, because most of the new machines are "cheap, plastic crap."

And, other than ruining the "mintiness" of the machine, there really would be no harm in even a collector purchasing one of these Hoovers and actually using it if s/he chose to do so.

I too have mixed feelings about the high prices that some machines go for ... but at the same time I don't begrudge anyone the right to spend what they care to spend if they have the money to spend. Who am I to set limits on other people's budgets and spending just because I myself am perpetually poor and can't afford to "spend with the big boys?"

Plus, there's a double-edged sword here: Those who list things on eBay certainly don't post begrudging comments about out-of-control eBay auctions when they get big bucks for THEIR stuff!

The idea that everyone should be on a "level playing field" with no one having a financial advantage over anyone else is nothing less than socialism, and personally I'd rather do without the occasional eBay treasure than to live in a socialist society. Even within the context of vacuum cleaner collecting. You want to talk about a double-edged sword!

Those who suggest that all collectors should feel obliged to adhere to some sort of monetary limit as to what they are spending (and, by the way, WHO would determine that limit?) really have not thought through what they are suggesting, I don't think.

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Post# 15276 , Reply# 11   6/23/2007 at 13:46 (6,151 days old) by ian88 ()        

Oh yes good old Charlie..flying the flag of Anti Socialism/Communism :p

lol seriously, Socialism and Ian Moore is about as good a mix as live wires and swimming pools...not in my back yard, god no! I want my business thank you very much.

Off topic, but I like to think of this forum as one of the few places on the net where my economic beliefs are shared :P

Ian


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