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Post# 156231   10/21/2011 at 06:48 (4,569 days old) by baglessball ()        

Guys i love kirby for deep cleaning carpets BUT! They do lose suction/airflow and bags are exspensive! Im a bagless man!

Im wondering about creating a waterfilterion system for it. Has anybody else had had a similar idea? I have seen the bloke on youtube with the baless system, but i dont want to create on which will lose airflow. I intially thought of adapting a dyson cyclone but thought it would restrict kirbys airflow as it has narrow airways..

Let me know what you think!

Post# 156233 , Reply# 1   10/21/2011 at 06:54 (4,569 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

How is your Kirbt losing airflow-bag fill tube clogged?I have PACKED the bags on mine with no problems.Use the Filtrete bags if you can.Big improvement over the paper ones.I have never heard of a water filter device for Kirby---strange though-the first Kirby models were like a hand pumpted canister vac that had a watertrap filter-like a Rainbow.

Post# 156251 , Reply# 2   10/21/2011 at 11:30 (4,569 days old) by baglessball ()        

Damn, i wish they would of stuck with that! haha!

The cheapest i can get those bags £35 for 5. Its far too much, im cleaning up after alot of animals so go threw a pack like there is no tomorrow.

The geniune bags are good, but do lose suck. I noticed as as the bag fills the cleaner head needs a couple more clicks to make contact with the floor, where as with a new bag it pulls the carpet up to the machine.

I was thinking of the same water filteration design as polti lecoaspira. As it looks simple to recreate and works well.

I like to see what crap has been picked up too!

Post# 156258 , Reply# 3   10/21/2011 at 12:59 (4,569 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

What bags are you using?

Are you using the older paper bags, or the newer filterette bags, or the even newer clothlike bags?

I can see the cloggin with the older one-ply bag, but pet hair as a rule is non clogging and actually acts as a filter media itself allowing you to pack the bag without loss of suction. For it to be that dramatic as you describe there must be a lot of dander or dust particles in the mix.

Last time I purchaed the Micron-Magic bags, a nine pack was $26.95. Have you looked at ordering from an online supplier? Maybe you could get them cheaper there.

There is, however, a way to make a Kirby have a water trap. Take the hose and connect it to the blower/bag port. Then route the hose end into the hose end of a Rainbow. Turn the Rainbow on first then the Kirby. The Kirby will actually blow more air than the Rainbow can suck in, but the seperator moves fast enough to keep the water out of the motor. And there you have the best of both worlds.


Post# 156261 , Reply# 4   10/21/2011 at 13:16 (4,569 days old) by baglessball ()        

Ahhhh

I use the cloth like ones yeah! I,m in the UK are the furthest that i have gone is ebay as an online supplier! Also tried some copy clothlike bags and they werent bad.

I clesan for a few friends, well do a really good vac round once a month, so kirby is collecting the dust in the carpets that there vacuums miss. Also old carpets and houses near the road..

If i manage to make a working contraption i shall photo it and upload it! ;D

Post# 156277 , Reply# 5   10/21/2011 at 15:23 (4,569 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

I once hooked up a dyson bin to my Kirby Tradition, it blew out every seal on the Dyson bin, so it didn't work... :\

As for water filtration, well, I don't think it'd work too well with a Dirty-fan vac like a Kirby, I did try to come up with a reason why it wouldn't work too well, but, to be honest I haven't a clue why cos I've never used a water-filtration vac before!!! :S

Seen plenty of Rainbows of varying ages on the web, but never in person... :(

Post# 156314 , Reply# 6   10/21/2011 at 20:53 (4,569 days old) by baglessball ()        

Which cyclone unit did you use?

Post# 156369 , Reply# 7   10/22/2011 at 09:17 (4,568 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

DC04, not long after I "dispatched" the rest of the vac... :P

The reason why it blew out the seals is pretty simple, the bin is designed to work at a negative pressure, with air being pulled through it, rather than at positive pressure, with air forced through it, like the exhaust from a Kirby, so it's not really a good idea if you want to make a custom bagless Kirby... :\

Post# 156381 , Reply# 8   10/22/2011 at 10:38 (4,568 days old) by baglessball ()        

I was thinking that if I was to convert a cyclone I would have to get pretty crafty with some silicone!

This is also why was thinking water filtration as is good handle kirbys massive airflow.. I just. Ed to find away of controlling it so water wouldn't be blown everywhere!


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