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Post# 154154   10/4/2011 at 10:34 (4,558 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

By far the most expensive vacuum I've ever bought, even though its used, is this very nice Aerus Guardian "by Electrolux", as the logo reminds us. Came with all the accessories, plus extra bags, Clean Sweep chips, and an extra Sidekick, hose, and wand set that the seller apparently saved from another machine (must have been another Guardian).

 

I like this machine so far, especially the handle controls, and the near 360 degree swivel of the canister when pulled around (I find it, so far, very maneuverable). The noise of the motor is going to take some getting used to...it makes even the later plastic body Electroluxes sound like a gentle breeze.


Post# 154163 , Reply# 1   10/4/2011 at 13:42 (4,558 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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That is very nice, I really like the controls on the hose end,

 

Must say the design is trully nice and streamlines with the exception of the square brick filter I can't understand why they couldn't make that look better, It looks like such an afterthought, like we designed this trully great machine but oh dam we forgot about the filter!!


Post# 154166 , Reply# 2   10/4/2011 at 15:11 (4,558 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        
Re: Hepa Filter

Agreed, as they obviously took care of that problem with the smaller Guardian Ultra...I don't know why they couldn't do it with this. On the other hand, the "real estate" on the top of the machine is taken up with the tool compartment and carrying handle, so there's not a lot of room to maneuver.


Post# 154168 , Reply# 3   10/4/2011 at 15:52 (4,558 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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That is true , but they could have made it look better, It kind of looks like when those teenage drivers strap a ironing board to the boot of there Honda civic and think it looks cool


Post# 154170 , Reply# 4   10/4/2011 at 16:53 (4,558 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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I love mine. Bought it new in 2003 total $2499.99 with everything including the floor pro shampoower. Came with a 21 year warr.

Post# 154171 , Reply# 5   10/4/2011 at 16:55 (4,558 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS)        

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oh and if you think its loud now, run it without the filter. Your neighbors with think a plane is landing.

Post# 154174 , Reply# 6   10/4/2011 at 17:06 (4,558 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

I was vacuuming the (narrow) hall in my house today, and my ears were ringing with the reverberations of the motor off the walls. Aerus-Electrolux obviously forgot their history when they invented this machine. I'm half tempted to run it on low speed all the time. Aside from that, as I say, I like it.


Post# 154186 , Reply# 7   10/4/2011 at 18:12 (4,558 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

For the money they cost new it's a sin they're so noisy.

Post# 154187 , Reply# 8   10/4/2011 at 18:28 (4,558 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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Hmmmm

Are these noisier than the Renaissance?

I didn't think the Renny was very loud at all.

This almost looks EXACTLY like the Renny except for the color and the hepa filter on top (the no electronics on the hose handle)


Post# 154188 , Reply# 9   10/4/2011 at 19:08 (4,558 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        
Noise-o-rama

I've never heard a Renaissance in person, only through Youtube videos, so I can't compare, but it seems like the Renaissance sounds more or less like the other plastic body machines. With this Guardian, its more about the pitch than the volume; its a very "whiny" sound to my ears. Its just a little surprising for a company that was always known for the quietness of their vacuums.

 

Re: cost. The seller told me the machine cost $1800 3 years ago. That sounds about right to me, although I'm not sure on the date. I know there were a few different Guardians available.


Post# 154196 , Reply# 10   10/4/2011 at 20:55 (4,558 days old) by williamr1248 (USA)        
Very nice Aerus Guardian find

I have an Electrolux Epic 8000. Mine is very quiet but I have several friends who complained about later Guardians with loud motors. I bought mine new in 1998. I wonder if they changed the motors or maybe it is because of the added filter on top.

Are those the origianl hoses or are they replacements? in the picture they look more grey. The Guardians I saw at the Areus sales offce were the blue that matched the machine. Very nice machine and tools.Also-never saw a BLACK cord rewind control. It looks like they changed the power cord from matching machine color to black.

Interesting how they make small changes along the time frame of a certain style.

 

I thought maybe Aerus quit making this  machines and could cut an entire line down to one style. My Epic 8000 does seem much more deluxe and top of the line than the new Guardian Ultra with the shorter cord,lack of 3 speeds,fewer guidance wheels anbd smaller bag capacity. It seems they went backwards with the new Ultra. I think the price even went down. 


Post# 154208 , Reply# 11   10/4/2011 at 22:14 (4,558 days old) by Vacuumfreeeke ()        

It is a beautiful machine, and my favorite Lux. That is great that it came with the extra wands.... you can leave them permanently connected to the bare floor nozzle for easier switching! I have the Renny, and I like the color on the Guardian much better.... I actually thought about painting my Renny to make it look like a Guardian (most of the attachments are from a Guardian anyway), but I like to keep things as original as possible.

Congrats!


Post# 154245 , Reply# 12   10/5/2011 at 08:05 (4,557 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

I think the motors in most or all of the models were changed when the name changed to Aerus...could very well be wrong on that, though. Likewise with the cords...didn't most or all of the Aerus badged machines have black cords?

 

As for the cord rewind pedal, you may be right there; it seems like a replacement. All the other Guardians I've seen have the pale blue one.

 

One of the hoses (the one connected to the machine in the picture) is a very pale blue-gray with pale blue stripes running around it; the other is a yellow-ish gray with pale blue stripes, and has the Electrolux logo embossed on it. I'm guessing the second one could have come from an earlier Electrolux badged Guardian.

 

If you ask me, if a company is selling a top-of-the-line machine, it should certainly have a long cord and variable speed motor, as these machines do, and it should give the buyer a sense of getting something "better". The current Guardian Ultra looks inferior to the Lux Legacy, I think, although that's not a comment on the quality or anything.

 

Re: leaving the 2nd wand set connected for bare floor cleaning. That's a good idea, as this machine will probably be, at least for a time, my regular vacuum, and I won't be storing it in my "vacuum room" in the basement.

 

By the way, I love the Epic 8000. That machine, and the Renaissance, are at the very top of my want list. This whole series of machines (i.e. Renaissance, Epic 8000, Lux 9000, and Guardians) are arguably the "coolest" looking machines Aerus Electrolux has ever made. They're streamlined, futuristic, chic, stylish, and all those other adjectives.


Post# 154261 , Reply# 13   10/5/2011 at 11:34 (4,557 days old) by andken23 ()        
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hi bob very nice guardian you found and i like it and i going to a look at my ambassador iii soon and if you want to take a look at it please let me know ok.
Andrew


Post# 154313 , Reply# 14   10/5/2011 at 21:34 (4,557 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        
Noise levels

Is the Guardian Ultra louder than the Lux Classic or Legacy?

Post# 154317 , Reply# 15   10/5/2011 at 22:10 (4,557 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        
Classic/Legacy/Guardian Ultra Noise

Don't those three machines share the same motor? In that case, the only thing that might make a difference is the differing filters and top covers. In any event, I've never personally experienced the machines in question, but I'm sure there's someone on here who has.

 

Andrew: Have a look at my suggestions in your Ambassador III thread.


Post# 154360 , Reply# 16   10/6/2011 at 11:54 (4,556 days old) by Sanifan ()        
I love these Electroluxes...

...but I'm so confused.

There seem to be so many permutations of the canisters. Granted, I'm fairly new to the ins and outs of vacuums so I'm just learning, but the Electrolux canisters seem especially complex in this regard.

I've been tempted to pick one up, but still waiting for a chunk of free time so I can educate myself!

Very cool looking vacuum, though. Even used they seem to command a very premium price. Is it worth it?

Thanks!


Post# 154367 , Reply# 17   10/6/2011 at 15:11 (4,556 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

You're right there, Sanifan. The same basic design has been in use now since the 70's, with some modifications. I once posted a list on here of all the plastic body North American Electrolux cylinders I could think of, but nobody commented or responded. There must be close to 50 variations, and I didn't even include the new style (like the Guardian), or Aerus badged models, not to mention the uprights.

 

Is the Guardian worth it? I would say so. I didn't buy this new, but when new, it would have come with a 20+ year warranty. I was lucky in that I got the extra hose, wands, and Sidekick (worth a considerable amount by themselves). I'd give the Guardian top marks for cleaning performance (as good or better than other Lux cylinders), HEPA filtration, on-board attachments, long cord, handle-mounted power controls, and variable speed motor. In addition, the build quality seems so much better than the so-called "eggshell" Electrolux bodies...the plastic or whatever material it is seems much tougher, more durable, and constructed better. I Aerused the entire upstairs today, and it did a fine job.


Post# 154510 , Reply# 18   10/8/2011 at 04:22 (4,555 days old) by thermokid (Casper, Wyoming)        
Aerus Gaurdian

I have that very same machine. And I love mine. It does a really good job deep cleaning. And it is a lot quieter than my Renaissance. And that cord rewind pedal must be a replacement, because mine is Baby Blue color. I was going to buy a new Gaurdian, because I bought mine used, but I found out Aerus Electrolux doesn't make that style of Gaurdian any more......Dan

Post# 154551 , Reply# 19   10/8/2011 at 13:13 (4,554 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

I think Aerus made a bit of a mistake when they eliminated the Renaissance style body. I don't own Aerus, but if I did, this is what I would have done:

 

1. redesigned the gas pump style hose handle for both the Guardian and Legacy and made it smaller, along with the integrated wands and power nozzle elbow. The handle controls and machine end connector in either case would have been the same (and, in this way, the redesigned hoses could have been retrofitted to the older canisters, if the customer wanted it).

 

2. integrated the HEPA filter somehow into the body of the Guardian. That box filter reminds me of the "houses" that sit on top of buildings to house the elevator machine room and other building control systems.

 

3. eliminated either the Classic or the Legacy, and combined the best of both machines into one. They're essentially the same machines anyway, except for the top decks, hose handles, wands, and power nozzle elbows. Don't get me wrong...I love the style of BOTH the Classic and the Legacy, but if the company wanted to cut costs, this would have been a good place to start.

 

All this is off the top of my head, and it may not have worked, but we all have to have imagination. This is why I kind of "jumped" at this Guardian, because the style is "obsolete", and who knows when the chance to get another may come up?

 

Pleasant Electroluxing and Aerusing


Post# 154607 , Reply# 20   10/9/2011 at 02:36 (4,554 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Go back to the QUIET design "lux was famous for-when I used to have A Guardian-and it had the HEPA filter housing on top--the thing sounded like I was vacuuming my floor with a B-52 engine.Got rid of it primarily becuase of the noise.Traded the Guardian to a Meile.I thought 'Lux has now Quieted their machines and got rid of the add on filter housing.

Post# 154655 , Reply# 21   10/9/2011 at 11:05 (4,553 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

Another part of the problem with the noise, at least on mine, is that the HEPA filter vibrates and adds another dimension of whine to the sound. Not sure if this is common to all Aerus/Electrolux machines with the box filter or not, and its not like the filter is installed incorrectly, so this might just be part of the experience.

 

Other than the sound (which I'm slowly learning to live with), I like all the other features, as mentioned above, and one that I forgot to mention...the top-mounted cord winder. All the other Luxes have the cord coming out of the bottom side of the machine, and the Guardian style winder is a significant improvement, especially for someone with severe arthritis, who likes to use Electrolux/Aerus cylinders. You'd be surprised how impossible bending down just a few extra millimeters becomes when you're afflicted with arthritis.


Post# 154724 , Reply# 22   10/9/2011 at 19:56 (4,553 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
I bought the last Guardian

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just last year because I couldnt pay for the new ultra an expensive version of the Classic. My Guardian is very Quiet as is my 75th Anniversary guardian. Not sure why some are saying they are noisey ? I even removed the Hepa filter to see if that would make a differance and it is the same very quiet powerful Aerus I love .

Post# 154734 , Reply# 23   10/9/2011 at 20:38 (4,553 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

Its probably a case of "one person's noise is another person's gentle breeze", etc. I ran it without the filter; didn't make a hell of a lot of difference to the sound. In any event, I've used this machine every day, for every task, since I got it, and I'm loving it more and more.

 

BTW, how many different iterations of the Guardian are there? If memory serves, there was the first Electrolux branded version, then the Encore, and then a couple of different Aerus branded versions, and finally the new Ultra...I think that's right.


Post# 238431 , Reply# 24   7/1/2013 at 09:34 (3,922 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Or the noise level depends on the home design, if it has bare floors or carpet; if the room(s) have vaulted ceiling. I'd like to try out a Rennaissance, Epic 8000 or Guardian unit, but I haven't really heard one "in person" to find out how loud they really are.

Post# 238451 , Reply# 25   7/1/2013 at 14:21 (3,922 days old) by AudibleNectar ()        
I recently got a used version/late model.....

......Guardian as well, and I am very impressed with the machine. While I was one who was entirely used to the metal body "Super J" style of yore, I find a LOT to like in the Renaissance style setups. That tank, despite being plastic, is really well put together. The only negative is the HEPA placement/setup, but with all the other metrics - durability, performance, and features, I'm very pleased.  So pleased, in fact, that I will likely buy another one plus a few expectedly needed spare parts to fortify the investment.

 

I don't find the noise to be problematic, unless the HEPA filter is off, and even then I can tolerate it for the short periods/limited duty it would see in that application. I had the misfortune of my Guardian arriving with the HEPA installed, breaking off one of the clips and needing to buy another.

 

Guardian canister + Guardian upright = one happy Aerus/Lux owner.....I have everything I want between the two machines.


Post# 238514 , Reply# 26   7/1/2013 at 19:13 (3,922 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada)        
Rennaissance question....

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Just wondering, has anyone tried using the Rennaissance with the Hepa Filter from the Guardian? (not the Guardian Ultra). I would like to get a Renny instead of the Guardian, just like & prefer the gray color & the touch pad hose controls better. My only concern would be, would the Hepa Filter leak all over the place if used on a Rennaissance?? If anybody here has any experience with this, please do reply.

Thanks....Rob



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