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Post# 153669   9/29/2011 at 11:57 (4,564 days old) by elux-o-matic ()        

Can anybody tell me the relation , or difference, between AERUS & ELECTROLUX ?

Thanks :-)


Post# 153685 , Reply# 1   9/29/2011 at 14:39 (4,564 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Aerus is the new name of the old N.American Electrolux Co.

It's very confusing but it goes like this.

The original Electrolux Co still in existance is a Swedish company that expanded into N.America back in the 1930or so. .(someone else can fill in the proper dates)

They basically ran into money troubles not long after or needed money to continue their European operations so they sold the name "Electrolux" to their N.American division which became a totally separate company from the European company.

Electrolux in Europe was never the same company as Electrolux in the USA/Canada.

Electrolux Europe eventually bought Eureka.

Electrolux N.America sales declined over the past 20 or so years and now they found themselves in trouble so Electrolux Europe bought back the Electrolux name from them which meant our old Electrolux had to change it's name to Aerus.

So actually the Aeurus vacs are our old Electroluxes and the Electroluxes you see in the stores here today aren't.

Confused?

LOL


Post# 153688 , Reply# 2   9/29/2011 at 15:24 (4,564 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Many of the New Electrolux machines you guys get in your stores are sold as AEG in Europe and South Africa, what you guys call eureka is sold as Electrolux to Europe and South Africa,

Machines like the

ultra active 

ultra silencer

Ultra one

oxy3 

and many more are all badged 

AEG by Electrolux here

 

 

Australia however calls some Electrolux products are called Volta and others Electrolux.

 

Here is our AEg ultra active

Please note the lack of a PN!!!


Post# 153692 , Reply# 3   9/29/2011 at 15:39 (4,564 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

It can get a bit confusing, but, Electrolux is the original parent co. that started in Europe, and Aerus is the american spin-off that used to be called Electrolux, until Electrolux told them to change their name, simple as that, I think... :S

Post# 153694 , Reply# 4   9/29/2011 at 15:52 (4,564 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
And those machines what are now known

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as Electrolux were sold under the Eureka name as Eureka oxygens are we confused yet ? I really think our former Electrolux now known as Aerus are a much better made vacuum than the New Electrolux formerly Eureka here in the USA .

Post# 153695 , Reply# 5   9/29/2011 at 16:02 (4,564 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Hell yea 

 

confusion regns supreme with Electrolux. 

 

Although I have never seen one yet I also think the old USA Electrolux was a better machine.

 

What I believe now happens is that Canister aeg and electrolux& eureka machines are designed mostly by Electrolux in sweden and some in china. Upright models are designed by Eureka in the USA.

I used to work for Electrolux SA a division of Electrolux ab in the R&D department, it was loads of fun 


Post# 153698 , Reply# 6   9/29/2011 at 16:20 (4,564 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Personally I don't really like most cannister or cylinder vacs, they're usually just thrown together and made to look pretty, unlike things like Compacts/Tristars (Before they put the single-stage motor in the DXL onwards), Sebos and other top notch models where they actually thought out the design, yes Electrolux US's full-bag ejector system is pretty interesting, but, that's as far as it goes for me, and as for Eurolux vacuums, well, they never really appealed either, yes the Z500 did have some interest before I actually got one (though never used cos it's just poorly constructed and the motor is useless), but the only Electrolux I like is the soft-bagged Eureka & Sanitaire uprights... :\

I wouldn't mind getting myself one of them Z9120As, simply because they carried the Vibragroomer2/3 brushroll over to that vac, but, I'm not that enthusiastic about it being a modern plastic vac... :\

Wouldn't mind the blue one if they actually sold it here in the UK:


Post# 153699 , Reply# 7   9/29/2011 at 16:25 (4,564 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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They do , will they did last time I checked , I bought one from the Uk and shipped it to SA, they came in white and work really well.

 

I bought it for the cleaning company we owned , it outlasted the sebo's 10 to 1. I think we ended up bringing in 10. great vacs 

 

I'm not a big fan of sebo , there ok but no were near as good as people think they are, the plastic breaks easily, the motors don't last long and cost a fortune to replace, thats my biggest complaint with them, spares. we were spending upwards of £ 150.00 a month on each machine just to maintain them, and then add in bags aswell. 

 

we used 360, 370, x1 x3 g1, they look good when new but are not made the way they used to be.

I like the way they work and have a few in my collection but they are not built to last 

 

at one stage we just bought cheep hoover bag less vacuums , they not only outlasted the sebo's but actually cleaned better two and i could buy one a week and still not spend any were near what we spent on sebo maintenance.  




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Post# 153702 , Reply# 8   9/29/2011 at 17:05 (4,564 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Oh they sell the white one here, it's the blue one I want cos it's blue.... :P

Post# 153754 , Reply# 9   9/29/2011 at 23:54 (4,564 days old) by mark40511 (Lexington, KY)        

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So Electrolux N. America was in trouble, so they sold the name and became Aerus......and that got them out of trouble?

Since they sold their name, how is the company doing now as Aerus?

Yes. I agree that Aerus vac's are much better vacuums than EurektraLux :D


Post# 153759 , Reply# 10   9/30/2011 at 05:59 (4,564 days old) by pr-21 (Middletown, OH)        
I don't remember where I read this but....

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I read somewhere that,  Aerus has the original Electrolux build their vacuums for them now.

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

Bud


Post# 153769 , Reply# 11   9/30/2011 at 09:12 (4,563 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
No Aerus does not

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build the new Eurektralux vacuums . Those are made by Eureka .Aerus is doing really well . They didn`t sell the name Eureka took it back after the real Electrolux built up it`s reputation. Now they claim (eureka) that they are the Electrolux you grew up with or that Grandma had . Thats how they advertise on QVC and I think it`s a total lie .

Post# 153770 , Reply# 12   9/30/2011 at 09:17 (4,563 days old) by massagemiracle ()        

My fave!


Post# 153773 , Reply# 13   9/30/2011 at 09:43 (4,563 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Dan

The machines you guys now call Electrolux are manufactured By Electrolux ab in the EU. mainly in Hungary

Eureka machines are mainly manufactured by a company called KingClean in the Jiangsu province in China. Kinclean manufactures allot of vacuums for allot of different companys. Basically you ask them to manufacture your goods for you.They do Eureka Russel hobs, Morphy richards to name a few.

 


Post# 153774 , Reply# 14   9/30/2011 at 10:22 (4,563 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Here's a link that explains it best





CLICK HERE TO GO TO petek's LINK


Post# 153776 , Reply# 15   9/30/2011 at 10:37 (4,563 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Kingclean? Just so long as they don't rename themselves F. KingClean..... :S

It is sad how so many well-known names are just confused between different woners, and even sadder that a lot are being made in china, I'd have loved to have gotten into manufacturing of such products, but, I don't fancy living in a communist state where you have few rights and can't even choose who leads your country...

Heck, the funniest chinese brand confusion I've seen to date are the products from TTI, such as Hoover models sold as Vax here in the UK, Royals made from old Hoover Decade80s, and Maytags that look like a classic floating vac but can't be called Constellation cos of licensing issues.... :S

There's a reason why I like classic vacuum cleaners, back in the days when they were made in the countries the companies first set up shop, and when care was put into design and manufacturing of the end product, these days it's all mass produce cheap, stack 'em up and sell them as cheap, poor quality, disposable items... :\


Post# 153779 , Reply# 16   9/30/2011 at 10:56 (4,563 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        
China not free ??

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No Offence David but you live in a country were you are taxed on any and everything , your goverment decides what you do and when you do it and your whole life is monitored by cctv cameras, your car can be taken away and crushed if you speed . I.ve been to china , they are free,er than you and me both.

 

Its nothing like you think at all . its a beautiful place with a vibrant culture.

 

 

Gareth


Post# 153783 , Reply# 17   9/30/2011 at 11:16 (4,563 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Well, the difference between the UK and china is we have the right to vote, we don't copy-engineer Western brands, we don't buy in old model car tooling and make western cars into vile cut & shuts (Look up the Etsong Lande, the result of taking the Austin Maestro cab and the Austin Montego front end, I call it the Monstro, and slapping in a Mazda-copy engine and calling it their own), manufacturing is not state-owned (mainly cos china stole it all), we're not testing nuclear weapons and threatening to use them if people object to our ways, we're not severely restricted on the internet by state-firewalls, I could go on, but I'd need to do more googling on the amount of restrictions and state-imposed limits that china has to suffer...

It may be indeed be a nice place with wonderful people, but, it's those in charge who do not want to relinquish their power because of the financial rewards and ability to make up whatever laws they like (definition of corruption?) who make it look like a bad country, so, it's their own fault...

There's a reason many Chinese people left China to live in the western world, and that's freedom, there's a chinese family in this town who have been here since about '71, they're well known and well loved, plus they make great takeaway food from their takeaway "China Garden"... :P


Post# 153788 , Reply# 18   9/30/2011 at 12:34 (4,563 days old) by joshdonnell ()        
Aerusvs Electrolux

i Personal like the eurekaluxs over the aerusluxs . I find the Guardans didnt give my carpets a deep clean . just my two cents

Post# 153789 , Reply# 19   9/30/2011 at 12:41 (4,563 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Gareth I think that's a bit of a stretch. There's a lot more behind the scenes in China than the average tourist will see. What they say and what they actually practice are sometimes totally opposite. For instance I was just reading an article the other day about the prevalance of Hepititis B in China. Something in the order of 20 percent of the Chinese population have it and it became the norm that anyone including children had to take a test for it for everything including enrolling in kindergarten, applying for a job etc. marriage. Those that test positive are systematically denied and shunned. The prejudice is so ingrained that those people have to resort to paying hundreds of dollars they can ill afford to cheat and do illegal things, such as getting a stand in to go for the blood test for a job interview. Praying their children will never slip and mention it etc.. The Chinese govt has made strides making it illegal to do those tests but there is little to no enforcement of them. Like most things they turn a blind eye and are quick to hammer down on any dissent. It is getting better, very very slowly and will take years if ever.. decades and more. But it isn't a free society. They put on a good show of making that appearance "in certain zones/cities/areaas where they do afford "some" freedoms. But in the big picture it is absolutely not a free society because they do not have the right to exercise a vote for their government.

Look at all those fabulous pictures of how the big cities in China are becoming so modern, all the new buildings and freeways and cars cars cars everywhere whereas 20 or so years ago there was nothing but fields and houses that the poor people lived in.. Well what happened to those poor people and their houses? They were and are still being turfed out by the thousands today with little or no compensation and sent packing and forgotten. It's sickening, have you not seen any of the documentaries and news stories that have gotten out regarding that?

Or the hidden camera exposes on the plight of the poor farmers and families who's land is now so polluted that they can no longer grow any food on it and what food they might be able to grow is unfit to heat.. These are not "made up" anti-Chinese propaganda things.. They're true and factual in a way actually benefit the Chinese by opening the eyes of westerners as to what really goes on and shame the Chinese government into making changes.


Post# 153790 , Reply# 20   9/30/2011 at 13:31 (4,563 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I taught a lot of REAL CHINESE students

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They're not here for the food!  Thet told me how they ARE "allowed" only one child.  IF they have others,  they must PAY ther government to "count them".  If not,  they are discarded.  A group of THEM live in fields, and they are known as,  are  you ready??  "the black people"!!!!!! They meet similar people, become families, and continue that way.  Factory workers aren't ever allowed to use, have, buy ANY of the products sent over here.  MOST have absolutely no idea that another life exists outside of their own,  and, the govt WANTS it that way.  Some are sent over here, educated, then sent back over there. One student told me that her sister makes Ralph Lauren clothes in a factory.  She makes about 22 CENTS an hour....in 2011 !!!!!!!! When asked,  they ALL say  that there is So much over here.  BUT,  they still love China...SOME, only some, refer to us as the "dumb Americans". and, when a baby BOY is born,  they're thrilled.  When a girl is born,  they  really don't care too much. Sad,  really.  Sometimes, they give the girl away.  I taught a woman  who was SOLD as a child.  

    My aunt went there on a vacation.  She said it was filthy, they all got sick, Kaopectate was in high demand.  She's glad she saw it all,  but would NEVER go back.  I'm NOT BASHING.... do I bash?  NEVER..  I'm just relaying what the real Chinese told me.  AND,  the "Chinese" food we buy over HERE  is like Chinese fast food.....they never eat it.  It's like "Asian Mc Donalds"  to them.

     With all of the Elextrolux, Aerus,  etc....  i hope there's no TEST.  My head is spinning from the transactions.  I'm not bashing electrolux... do I bash?   Never.


Post# 153791 , Reply# 21   9/30/2011 at 13:33 (4,563 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
I know I rambled,

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but it DID link to Electrolux and Aerus cleaners.  Wouldn't it be great to just have our cleaners made here again?


Post# 153792 , Reply# 22   9/30/2011 at 13:59 (4,563 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

"Wouldn't it be great to just have our cleaners made here again"
The aerus lux's are made in the U.S


Post# 153793 , Reply# 23   9/30/2011 at 14:00 (4,563 days old) by luxman107 (USA )        

My Fave too massagemiracle

Post# 153794 , Reply# 24   9/30/2011 at 14:07 (4,563 days old) by kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
John .22 cents an hour

What A high paid worker. I saw a story on 20/20 where the children as young as 8 or 9 worked 16 hour days in a Nike factory. At the end of their shift they got to take two carrots from the pile to take home. So generous to their employees, no wonder they can afford to produce goods so much less expensive than us dumb American's

Give me Dumb, capitalistic, America any day.



Post# 153796 , Reply# 25   9/30/2011 at 15:00 (4,563 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Indeed!

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And, I MEANT,  ALL of our beloved vacs ...to be made here, once again.  Can you imagine what would happen over "there' if, when some people stand up, revolt, whatever?  They need a Rosa parks........ There will be a riot to end all riots! Some HOOVER bags, etc, are still made here. Some are made in Texas...I'm sure parts were made.........................

I'm getting tidbits about the potential TTI... but can't discss until it becomes  clearer, closer,  more officcial. 


Post# 153798 , Reply# 26   9/30/2011 at 15:18 (4,563 days old) by kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
in one of my recent rants

Kirby's bags are now "Made in China"
My American Kirby is "globally sourced"


Post# 153799 , Reply# 27   9/30/2011 at 15:19 (4,563 days old) by kirbysthebest (Midwest)        
Sorry

I just realized that I was hijacking. Sorry again.

Post# 153803 , Reply# 28   9/30/2011 at 16:07 (4,563 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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hey guys , I never ment to upset any one, I.ve been to china many times, all on business while working for vacuum manufactureres and like any country there are bad and good sides.there are some horrendous human rights issues going on there but there are allot in the rest of the world as well

 

I do howver think that people tend to veiw it as a giant sweat shop. while I know these do exist, the vacuum factory's I went to are run with such precision it would make a german factory look backwards. the streets are cleaner than most European city's I've been to. yes there are problems but show me a country with out them.

 

 

As for vacuums been made there I blame all our governments for no tax incentives to many unions and making importation the cheaper option.

when I worked for Electrolux here in SA we manufactured every vacuum we sold here even when import duties dropped most machine were still made here and we exported too. However striking workers always looking for more and more pay ended the company's production facility's for ever. It was better to import, no striking workers no delays in delivery.

 

I can still remember them warning the factory workers that if the strikes carried on  they would simply close the factory, they didn't take the warning seriously and boom a few months later with yet another strike pending they retrenched 500 factory staff and most of the R&D staff leaving 20 factory staff and 2 R&D staff to continue with the 2 products they would still make her, 3 years ago they shut that down too


Post# 153809 , Reply# 29   9/30/2011 at 17:45 (4,563 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        

Did anyone outside N. America get these vacs like this? If so, what brand there was OUR Electrolux (now Aerus)?

Post# 153818 , Reply# 30   9/30/2011 at 20:22 (4,563 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

THe beloved old Electroluxes were only sold in the US mainly and different models were manufactured and sold in Canada with a few exceptions I believe.. There were some common elements to the attachments etc and some radically different , the hose connections were also different between the US and Canadian Eluxes. The Super J for one was sold in Canada and not sure about others.. Doug would know.

Post# 153844 , Reply# 31   10/1/2011 at 06:16 (4,562 days old) by elux-o-matic ()        
SUPER» J

I think SUPER J model was at the beginning oly sold in United States. But when Electrolux's Canadian employees went on strike, They decided to sell SUPER J in Canada.

Post# 153854 , Reply# 32   10/1/2011 at 10:00 (4,562 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

re the Super J in Canada.. yeah that sounds right. I found mine here in town at the Goodwill or SallyAnn but I can never be sure with some things since I'm in a border town it's always quite possible that people bought something in Michigan

Post# 156623 , Reply# 33   10/23/2011 at 15:29 (4,540 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        
My Electroluxes

Model L (Now my favorite; quieter than the 1205, which is quiet too)

Post# 156624 , Reply# 34   10/23/2011 at 15:30 (4,540 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        
The other one

Late 1205

Post# 156626 , Reply# 35   10/23/2011 at 15:32 (4,540 days old) by floor-a-matic (somewhere)        
3

1970 model 1205 (middle version)

The one my parents bought new.

All 3 Electrolux vacs are the QUIETEST vacs ever. I wouldn't touch the new "screamers" of today! :P



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