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Post# 150801   9/7/2011 at 19:07 (4,613 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 150808 , Reply# 1   9/7/2011 at 19:31 (4,613 days old) by twocvbloke ()   |   | |
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Pick a figure between $800 and $2400 and you have the answer... :S (That's from a salesman of course, seeing how you can't get them new any other way) |
Post# 150831 , Reply# 3   9/8/2011 at 00:44 (4,613 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 150845 , Reply# 4   9/8/2011 at 05:11 (4,613 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Hi Gareth, when you say. "why couldn't they just stick with the legend and herritage 2" Well I suppose the simple answer is technology moves on.
The Sentria has a better proformance than the Heritage II etc and quiet a few other other benifits over the H2s and L2s. One of the benifits of a H2 and L2 is there lightier to pick up. I'm suprised that you get many later G series coming in for new fans. I and other vac shops/Kirby serivce agents in the area get very few later series models come in with broken fans. Its normally the G4 and back that you get in with broken fans. (The grey lexan type) Chat later James:o) |
Post# 150852 , Reply# 5   9/8/2011 at 05:41 (4,613 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Hi James
yes but you must remember this is africa we are talking about, if its on the floor it will get vacuumed up , what ever it is.
I am not a big fan of new , post g series kirby's I think they are very over priced and prefer a royal. I also find the latter g series models to be less reliable to the l1l2 h1h2 models . and for what you are paying I would expect better quality. In south africa you can by 6 dc25 vacuums for the price of one kirby or 9 miele cat & dog models.
I get so many g3's and g4's in for motor failior but a old legend will only come in for noisy bearings.
I just think like every thing else they aren' made like they used to be but they charge more , much more
Just my personal experiance |
Post# 150858 , Reply# 7   9/8/2011 at 06:20 (4,613 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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had that two , I had one yesterday were the fan had melted into a mess but had become of shape so the vibrations cracked the main housing and bearing support.
As I said I prefer the royals , just as reliable but a quarter of the price and I think better looking .
Any vacuum can break especially if you don't look after it , my problem is not with the machine but rather the marketing department. I think they charge way to much for the machine |
Post# 150864 , Reply# 9   9/8/2011 at 07:29 (4,613 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Hi Rex. I've never heard of animals like mice and snakes being picked up here in the UK. Maybe spiders,bettles etc...
I Disagree with you Gareth that the latter G series are less reliable than the H2s and L2s. Early G series G3,G4 had a few motor issues which got sorted out. Looks wise are always comes down to personal taste. I'm not that keen on some of the newer Royals. And why kirbys are expensive it don't mean there over priced. Value is what individual puts on it. I know of lots of custmers who feel they have had good value for there money from there kirbys. Also I have seen customers who complain that they have had poor value for money for the cheaper end of the market (£95-£395) Hay ho. James:o) |
Post# 150866 , Reply# 10   9/8/2011 at 07:35 (4,613 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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take Your g5 give it led lights , smooth all tha corners of the light housing making it rounder, put a new fan design on, a much more shinny handle with cheaper plastic, fit a cheap plastic chrome belt lifter ( that feels like it will break every time you use it and loks like the plastic found on cheap chineese toys oh and change the colour , you have a sentria. same weight same machine slightly different face , oh and they changed the armiture to give a little more power.
Sorry to all you guys who Love Kirby's But i really think the sentria was a poor model. I would rather use any other kirby to clean up my house than a sentria
That is just my opinion though, I haven't had so many of a particular Kirby in my work shop for repair , will not since the g3 |
Post# 150868 , Reply# 11   9/8/2011 at 07:48 (4,613 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I agree with you that the early models have had trouble with motors , I have over 20 g3/g4/g5's in our store room with burnt out motors.
I am only posting what I have found, the g6 Ultimate g and sentria are always in for either fans or gear boxes , people don't want to take them to the kirby dealership because they over charge, I happen to know what they cost to make , there markup is huge , beyond huge.
As i said before this is what I found in South Africa,
I will say that vacuums last longer in the uk than South Africa and certain parts of the USA , its down to conditions they are exposed to.
We have trouble here with certain dyson models that my freind who owns a dyson agency in the UK says are his most relliable machines.
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Post# 150873 , Reply# 12   9/8/2011 at 08:24 (4,613 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Why the mark up is big, most high end items not just vacs is quite chunky. (Cars/windows/caravans etc) It goes hand in hand with what a product costs new. If your selling something expensive the mark up is allot higher as your selling less units.Also as a sales person you have to make a good mark up for it to be worth you doing it. Would you go to the time and hard work a sales person goes through just to earn £50 off one sale?
Sometimes its not worth selling cheapper vacs as sometimes you only make £10-£20 on a new unit. Unless you know your going to be selling vast ammounts of them. Like the larger retail stores.Who then push out the smaller independent ones. Oh well I'm getting back off to work. James:o) |
Post# 150889 , Reply# 14   9/8/2011 at 10:11 (4,612 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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our import duties are pretty low on vacuum cleaners , its not sen as luxury goods.
Only two branches in Cape town closed , both due to poor managment, Its a franchise here.
I happen to know by how much they mark the machines up by and I am all for making a profit but its insaine. thats why all the sales guys ddrive bmw x5's and mercedes e55's they only need to sell 2 machines a week to make good money , here especially among blue coller workers the kirby is seen as a statis symbol, Kirby's biggest market here is not the upper class but the blue coller workers . they allow them to pay the machine off.
funny thing is if you are really worried about allergy's and stuff like that you can have a central vacuum system like a beam installed for 2/3 the cost of a kirby including instalation and most houses here are brick not wood |
Post# 150900 , Reply# 16   9/8/2011 at 12:21 (4,612 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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I can't see Kirby going anywhere soon nor Rainbow,Filterqueen etc... lol;o)
Also allot of Kirby's arn't sold by forcing a custmer in to buying it. That is bad salemanship. You always hear the bad story's 1st before the good ones. As they say bad news travels fast. You will always get bad sales people in sales jobs. But there are allot of good sales people to. People tend to forget that. James:o) |
Post# 150903 , Reply# 17   9/8/2011 at 12:33 (4,612 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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Post# 150906 , Reply# 19   9/8/2011 at 13:48 (4,612 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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That also true about vac repairshops. I know another vac repair shop where they have done a few questionable things. Once they had a sebo X4 extra in and one of the LED's would not go out. I can't remember the exact LED but instead of sorting the problem he just cut one of the connections so it would not light up no more.
He never never repaired the problem. Just pretended he had when the custmer came back to collect it. I was before I opened my own shop going to take over a exsiting vac shop. They was friends with the other vac owner shop in question. So I got to hear about various misdemeanors they use to do. James:o) |
Post# 150911 , Reply# 21   9/8/2011 at 15:04 (4,612 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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I am always amazed, we sell new vacs aswell as repairing vacuums and offer customers a trade inn on there old machine , which is why I have so many old vacuums. almost every week we get a customer coming to buy a new vacuum because the repair shop in her area told her her machine was not worth fixing , I take it into my workshop and normally fix it in minutes and ive it back to the customer working.
I had a sebo x2 comercial vacuum in for repair a week ago, the circuit board had burnt out and sebo wanted £ 60.00 for it , My wife went to a local electronic components company and was able to buy ever part on the circuit board for way under £1.00 I soidered in the new pieces and sent it back to the customer |
Post# 151019 , Reply# 23   9/9/2011 at 05:25 (4,612 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)   |   | |
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Very true about big brand stores and even big brand electrical retailer.
Quiet often the staff don't know much about what there selling. Me and my ex a few years ago went to a big electrical retailer for a microwave combi oven for his parents. When we asked staff about questions about various models they just read the same info we had just read that was under the display model. Mind you customers can equally tell porky pies and not think for them selfs. I had one customer buy a recon dyson dc07. About 3/4 months later he can back in saying it had just stopped working and he was not very happy with it breaking under guarantee. He said he had not done nothing to it. Anyway I took it apart and looked at it. What he had done was wash the pre motor filter and put it back wet and not let it dry. The motor was wet... As a good will gesture I put a new motor in it and cleanned it all out but told him clearly that if he did it again he would be charged for the repair. I even told him when he bought it to clean and wash the the filter regular and to only put the motor filter back once it is dry etc etc. I'm sure it goes in one ear and out the other.... James:o) |
Post# 151022 , Reply# 24   9/9/2011 at 05:41 (4,612 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)   |   | |
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