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Post# 150549   9/6/2011 at 05:47 (4,608 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        

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Hi, I've just come across this... A cardboard vacuum cleaner.
Will you be rushing to buy one??

www.pocket-lint.com/news/40822/va...

James:o)


Post# 150550 , Reply# 1   9/6/2011 at 06:55 (4,608 days old) by massagemiracle ()        

"Not"!


Post# 150551 , Reply# 2   9/6/2011 at 06:59 (4,608 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Yeah, they wouldn't last too long in a damp house (which a lot of houses are these days with people not able to afford repairs thanks to the government & their extortionate taxes), I'm all in favour of Reduce, Reuse, Recycle, but, they're just using that for a marketing gimmick, it won't work...

Post# 150552 , Reply# 3   9/6/2011 at 07:03 (4,608 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        
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I wonder if they make a wet& dry model Tongue out


Post# 150556 , Reply# 4   9/6/2011 at 07:20 (4,608 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

It'd be funny if they did do a W&D, the thing would just implode on itself.... :P

Post# 150561 , Reply# 5   9/6/2011 at 08:33 (4,608 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
The thing is ...

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Its not a new concept at all. There has been at least one US cleaner with a cardboard body mentioned in the Vintage forum, and I have a Goblin, not sure if 1940s or 1950s, and that too has a cardboard body as I was somewhat surprised to find. What alerted me to the fact was how light it was.

Seeing its marked as a Vax I wonder will it be a Hoover in the US?

Al


Post# 150562 , Reply# 6   9/6/2011 at 08:43 (4,608 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

I think it would definitely be marketed (if they do market it) as a Hoover over int he states, being a TTI brand...

Post# 150564 , Reply# 7   9/6/2011 at 09:20 (4,608 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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I heard it was a theasus by an engineer doing his undergrad at VAX

 

I wonder how it will pass saftey tests. I don't see it standing up to the stringent UL tests, If the motor burns out it could set the whole machine on fire


Post# 150565 , Reply# 8   9/6/2011 at 09:28 (4,608 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Well, they say they put fire retardants into the cardboard to prevent fires, but, I still don't think it would take off... :P

Post# 150569 , Reply# 9   9/6/2011 at 09:39 (4,608 days old) by rickenbacker ()        

I've seen this a lot online and was gunna post about it myself lol. It seems like a poor idea for a company like vax really doesn't it? They're not built in the best of ways anyway, I don't think that a cardboard construction is gunna help. It's as if it's a parody of it's self! lol

I miss the older VAX wet drys :( *Sigh*


Post# 150571 , Reply# 10   9/6/2011 at 09:48 (4,608 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        

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Those are the best ones , I see to many problems with this cardboard machine. I think its pure marketing . It is getting the vax name out there


Post# 150580 , Reply# 11   9/6/2011 at 10:58 (4,608 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

When I think of the name "Vax", I see a big orange wet & dry cannister vac, made for proper wet carpet cleaning in the home, but when I look at Vax products these days, all I see is plastic junk, even the Quick-lite I have is a pile of number two, poor design, poor quality and poor engineering, and the reason, because the brand was sold to a chinese company who just couldn't care less about their products... :\

And if this cardboard Vax is made, you can bet your bottom that it won't last longer than a week, if that... :P


Post# 150581 , Reply# 12   9/6/2011 at 11:04 (4,608 days old) by rob_89 ()        


Have to agree, I think this is more about good publicity for Vax. The cleaner was a final year industrial design student project, though I notice he completed a placement with Vax, so they may have set the brief. Cardboard is often used for sketch models when designing something such as a vacuum, so perhaps that is partly where the inspiration came from?

The Pocketlint article mentions a possible production run, if it does make it, it will be interesting to see how much the concept is refined first. I'd consider buying one for a sensible price!

Rob


Post# 150584 , Reply# 13   9/6/2011 at 11:32 (4,608 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        
Vax wet& dry's

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I love those old vax et & dry vacuums , I have an orange oand black one and a grey model.

They just won't die


Post# 150588 , Reply# 14   9/6/2011 at 12:49 (4,608 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

I bet it would fit right in with my Paper Mache dishwasher.

Post# 150596 , Reply# 15   9/6/2011 at 14:09 (4,608 days old) by kenkart ()        
I hate to tell you!!

But I have a cardboard Montgomery Ward from the late 40s that is as good as ever, after all these years!

Post# 150597 , Reply# 16   9/6/2011 at 14:13 (4,608 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

From the 1940's eh? Back when engineers actually took pride in their work? Unlike today... :P

Post# 150603 , Reply# 17   9/6/2011 at 15:30 (4,608 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Well...

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Well I think Bounty Kitchen towel (Now called Plenty here in the UK)should make a wet and dry vac. It should clean up wet spills well!! lol;o)

James:o)


Post# 150610 , Reply# 18   9/6/2011 at 17:31 (4,608 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Well it's boun' tee.... :P

(Northerner joke there for you!!!)


Post# 150611 , Reply# 19   9/6/2011 at 17:41 (4,608 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa)        
back in the 40's

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when things were made properly and not to the lowest bidder in the east.

 

Today we were doing a bit of rearranging in the shop and I ( stupid idiot ) knocked a late 40's Electrolux off a two meter shelf and it landed on a current model  Electrolux bagged cylinder , I should rather say it landed through it. it demolished the machine ( a trade inn from a customer this morning ) only a few scrathches on the old 40's machine


Post# 150613 , Reply# 20   9/6/2011 at 17:54 (4,608 days old) by rickenbacker ()        

They sound good, don't think I've ever seen a grey one. I have a black and orange one from I think 1989. It doesn't have the dry filter unfortunately which means I've only really used it to vac up spills in the kitchen :P I've always liked early VAX machines, they are another one on the list to start collecting especially lol, that with Dyson DC01s and valuable Numatics (Which is pretty good so far!)

Post# 150629 , Reply# 21   9/6/2011 at 19:34 (4,608 days old) by KirbyLover (Louisville Kentucky )        

cardboard is better than plastic when it comes to cheap vacuums and landfills ;)

Post# 150633 , Reply# 22   9/6/2011 at 19:44 (4,608 days old) by twocvbloke ()        
"cardboard is better than plastic when it comes to cheap

Good point actually...

BUT, if a vac is well-made, it should never need to go to landfill... ;)


Post# 150673 , Reply# 23   9/6/2011 at 22:39 (4,608 days old) by KirbyLover (Louisville Kentucky )        

Not every vac is a Kirby, twocvbloke, ;)

Post# 150675 , Reply# 24   9/6/2011 at 22:45 (4,608 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Isn't it sad to think that so many of them

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land there.  Look at the ones we've all rescued.


Post# 150678 , Reply# 25   9/6/2011 at 23:04 (4,608 days old) by goadie12 ()        

I wonder what kind of motor it has in it but I know I would never buy one but I think they may be more popular in Asia or maybe some one who was in collage. Zach

Post# 150710 , Reply# 26   9/7/2011 at 07:49 (4,607 days old) by twocvbloke ()        
"Not every vac is a Kirby, twocvbloke, ;)"

Nor a Sanitaire, cos they're just brilliant at cleaning, and yes they do outclean a Kirby, be they Shakeout, F&G or ST bagged... :P

Post# 150732 , Reply# 27   9/7/2011 at 10:55 (4,607 days old) by Sanifan ()        
Concept/Novelty/Design Projects

Cool and interesting, but you really have to take design school projects with a grain of salt.

A lot of these projects "riff" on and explore an idea - in this case, eco-friendliness through the use of cardboard.

That's what design and art schools are like (I know, I went!). There's an exploration of some driving concept behind the work, and those concepts don't necessarily translate into a final, market-ready, real-world product. It's more like a process of trying something, working it out, and learning from the exercise.

Sometimes the project have enough merit that some aspect of the design or concept is carried on to other designs, or the designer is hired by a company because of his or her demonstrated ability, but it's rare that a student project is practically considered enough in all aspects manufacturing and marketing to make it to market unaltered.

Still, very refreshing to see something so unique!



Post# 150753 , Reply# 28   9/7/2011 at 14:16 (4,607 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Well Mr TwoCv you have never tried a Sentria...;o)


James:o)

p.s I've had a new sanitaire to compare ;o)


Post# 150760 , Reply# 29   9/7/2011 at 14:38 (4,607 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
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Oh p.p.s please excuse my spelling.
Typing why watching tv lol.

James:o)


Post# 150761 , Reply# 30   9/7/2011 at 14:45 (4,607 days old) by twocvbloke ()        
"Well Mr TwoCv you have never tried a Sentria...;o)"

Well, no, but I'm not letting a Kirby salesman over the doorstep, nor have I actually got the money to buy one (had I known about the one at a local auction not too long ago though, I could have had one!!!)... :P

I did have a G5 though, and upgraded it multiple times with later parts, never did the brushroll though, and it was still out-done by my Sanitaire, but then we do have commercial carpet here, well, for the moment, we're moving soon... :P


Post# 150785 , Reply# 31   9/7/2011 at 17:13 (4,607 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
lol

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Well if a vacuum can deep clean a carpet it can deep clean a carpet.
Its just that some do it more agressive than others. Its not that it cleans better...

I found the UK Electrolux rebranded sanis over here to be a poorer copy of the USAs original Eurekas sanis. Hence I sold mine on. I like the look of some of the older Eureka's

Oh well it could be worse they could be made of cardboard;o)

James:o)


Post# 150791 , Reply# 32   9/7/2011 at 17:39 (4,607 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

The UK Sanitaires are the same as the US Sanitaires, the only difference is the wiring (Euro standard colours aswell as noise suppressors) and the field coil in the motor, the rest is as per what is sold over there across the pond, seeing how they were made in the USA as per the ID labels... :)

I've got three of the things now, so can compare them, all built over in the US (well, the S663 was made in Mexico, but, at least it wasn't china!!!), and they're about the same, so, yeah....


Post# 150819 , Reply# 33   9/7/2011 at 21:06 (4,607 days old) by sanifan ()        
Paper potty

I'm waiting for someone to make a joke about a cardboard toilet.... Wait. I just did.

Never mind!


Post# 150822 , Reply# 34   9/7/2011 at 21:19 (4,607 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

A Cardboard toilet you say? Yep, it's been done... :P



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Post# 150838 , Reply# 35   9/8/2011 at 02:53 (4,607 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

If the "Cardboard" vacuum can get real HEPA certification--can see that being used as a "Disposable" vacuum for certain Hazmat cleanup jobs-such as toxic and infectous materials.the whole vac can then be disposed of or even incinerated.Just a thought.with the proper seals and cardboard-might be able to get HEPA certification-at least good enough for one time disposable usage.and of course the bag would be sealed in the machine.

Post# 151152 , Reply# 36   9/10/2011 at 15:22 (4,604 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        

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and i thought bissells where cheap,LOL.

anyway,could anyone post pics of the old cardboard machines please?


Post# 151156 , Reply# 37   9/10/2011 at 16:10 (4,604 days old) by Brandon_W_T ()        

Hmm...

That thing looks like it would be terrible to maneuver. Look at those wheels. They aren't even fully round. Lots of cut off corners.


Just bizarre.. I don't know. It looks like someone made it for a prop for something at a middle school play.



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