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First Ever Vacuum Disassembly/Repair/Etc.
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Post# 147042   8/14/2011 at 11:03 (4,631 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

To many of you, this might be very ho-hum, but this is the first time I've ever dared to dismantle a vacuum and see what was going on inside. I was using the Ambassador II yesterday, and suddenly decided, come what might of it, to take it apart and give it an interior cleaning. Here's the old boy "cracked" in half.


Post# 147043 , Reply# 1   8/14/2011 at 11:05 (4,631 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        
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The entire interior was coated with dirt and dust, the plastic motor surround the worst of all, as you can see.


Post# 147044 , Reply# 2   8/14/2011 at 11:09 (4,631 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        
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I cleaned out the entire interior casing, including the bag chamber, cord winder cover, and wires, cleaned off the motor and fan as best as I could (I didn't actually dismantle the motor), before reassembly. It's not perfect, but a great deal better.


Post# 147046 , Reply# 3   8/14/2011 at 11:19 (4,631 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        
Next Project

I'm presently tearing into my sister's (technically my) Diplomat. This machine still runs, and has decent suction, but the bearings sound very dry (it's very rough sounding when shut off). Bearing in mind that I know nothing about bearings, or wiring, or doo-dads, I'm actually going to attempt to dismantle the entire motor and lubricate the bearings. Wish me luck, and, if anyone out there has any experience with such things, I'd love some advice and support via email.

 

As can be seen from the picture, this machine must have sucked up a deal of water at one point; the motor surround is very rusty, and I'm going to try to sand/remove as much of this as possible. Obviously, this one is somewhat more complicated than the Ambassador, what with the wires for the "control panel" lights and the automatic system hoses, but I'll try my best. As I'm dismantling this machine, I'm taking pictures and labeling the wires so I remember what goes where for reassembly.

 

P.S. I apologize in advance if this thread should be in the Off-Topic forum.


Post# 147055 , Reply# 4   8/14/2011 at 12:17 (4,631 days old) by lux1521 ()        

Bearings on a Diplomat are not serviceable, as they are sealed. They can be replaced, but it is still a pain in the neck that will require drilling out rivets and replacing them with nuts and bolts for the front (fan side) bearing. You may also need a bearing puller to do the job properly. The bearings are usually frozen to the motor shaft, or in your case, rusted to the shaft.

Post# 147057 , Reply# 5   8/14/2011 at 12:26 (4,631 days old) by goadie12 ()        

Aww yes I remember the first time I took a vacuum apart just keep trying and ull be a pro in no time. My advice is if u want to become good at servicing/ rebuilding vacuums you should start with a machine that dosent really matter and take it apart and learn how it all works and then try to put it back together and if it works when u put it together then u know what you are doing lol if I was you I would start with an electrolux they are the easiest. Zach

Post# 147058 , Reply# 6   8/14/2011 at 12:35 (4,631 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
here's a tip,

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to make sure you put the screws back were they go,i take a piece of cardboard,push the screws though it, than draw a square around them and label it.

Post# 147062 , Reply# 7   8/14/2011 at 12:42 (4,631 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        
Bearings not serviceable

If that's the case, I'll just stick to cleaning things up as best as I can; I did warn my sister that the machine might come back in no better shape than before Wink

 

You're right, Zach, that's what this is all about...trial and error, learning, etc. I have more than a few of the newer Electroluxes, and its good to know how they're put together and how they work. At the very least, I'm not afraid to tear into things anymore.

 

P.S. Super-sweeper: That's a good idea, which I didn't take advantage of this time around Tongue out, but I did separate the screws for the different parts, so I hope my memory doesn't fail me.


Post# 147065 , Reply# 8   8/14/2011 at 13:06 (4,631 days old) by gmerkt (Edmonds WA)        

Re. the second machine pictured. That rust condition doesn't look good. Also note the corrosion on electrical contacts. My guess? Someone sucked water through it in the past. Not being a shop-vac, it didn't do it any good. Usually such machines turn out to be problematic and not worth restoration. Good for practice, though.

Post# 147085 , Reply# 9   8/14/2011 at 14:54 (4,631 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        

As far as I can remember, the Diplomat did pick up water a very long time ago, when it was my folks' vacuum, and its been with my sister now for 4-5 years, so its had a fairly good life and seen lots of service. As I say, it still goes, but I agree with you, gmerkt, that it'll possibly be more problematic in the future. I might suggest to my sister that she'd be better off with another vacuum (she mentioned possibly buying a Dyson), or I could give her one of mine, whichever she chooses, and keep the Diplomat as a project/parts vacuum. I could always get a brand new motor and put it in sometime in the future.

 

In the meantime, just tearing the thing apart has been fun and educational, so nothing is lost.


Post# 147104 , Reply# 10   8/14/2011 at 17:22 (4,631 days old) by beerad (Beautiful Vancouver BC)        
mine is a super j

i am currently slowly re assembling the motor of which i had the main bearing replaced,,,,


Post# 147191 , Reply# 11   8/15/2011 at 08:25 (4,630 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        
Mishap #1

I "accidentally" snapped off one of the Diplomat motor wires at the connector (more like in a fit of frustration in trying to remove it). At any rate, the contacts had significant corrosion, and the motor, as far as I'm concerned, is really not worth the trouble of saving. My sister and I talked this morning; I'm going to keep the Diplomat as a "project vacuum", and find a new motor for it in the future, when my financial situation permits, and she, at least for the time being, can use one of my machines until she decides what she wants for the future. She likes Electroluxes, and as I'm constantly on the lookout for used machines, I'm sure I can find something good at a reasonable price. For that matter, she could keep the borrowed machine; its not like I don't have any other vacuums.



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