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| Post# 145390 , Reply# 2 7/31/2011 at 20:09 (4,650 days old) by sanitairered (Michigan) | ||
What kind of 7 amp vacuum do you have?
They may clean well for the time, but their filtration is horrible. I would rather have a 12 amp vacuum that not only picks up lots of dirt and dust, but holds it in too! After all, the reason you vacuum your house is to clean it, right? The 50 year old kirby might pick up lots of dirt, but if it blows it right back in the air, what's the point of cleaning? My two cents. | ||
| Post# 145394 , Reply# 4 7/31/2011 at 20:32 (4,650 days old) by sanitairered (Michigan) | ||
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| Post# 145408 , Reply# 5 7/31/2011 at 21:46 (4,650 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 145460 , Reply# 9 8/1/2011 at 11:10 (4,649 days old) by sanitairered (Michigan) | ||
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Two things.. | ||
| Post# 145486 , Reply# 10 8/1/2011 at 14:31 (4,649 days old) by vacu-finder () | ||
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| Post# 145610 , Reply# 12 8/2/2011 at 06:47 (4,648 days old) by KirbyLover (Louisville Kentucky ) | ||
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central vacs How much power do they use? Do they run on 110V or 220V? | ||
| Post# 145638 , Reply# 13 8/2/2011 at 13:25 (4,648 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 145644 , Reply# 14 8/2/2011 at 14:19 (4,648 days old) by sanitairered (Michigan) | ||
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| Post# 145650 , Reply# 15 8/2/2011 at 16:19 (4,648 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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Amps... Dont mean much to me, a 535 watt Lux G is hard to beat, and a Filter Queen is darn near unbeatable, and they dont draw anywhere near 10 amps! all amps are is something to sell people on!...my 2 cents worth..LOL! | ||
Post# 145834 , Reply# 18 8/4/2011 at 02:52 (4,646 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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A 12A Kirby would be interesting.Would be a beast of a vacuum! | ||
| Post# 148732 , Reply# 21 8/25/2011 at 11:13 (4,625 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
dyson filters
"Dyson filters can CLOG causing loss of suction or airflow.why do they have you clean or replace it?"
Dyson filters clog when the users don't follow the instructions. If you over fill the machine past the max mark the filter will get dirty, As I sell & serviice them in our shop I always like to test them, I have emptied my machine everytime it gets to the max mark no later and on purpose havn't washed my filter in over 3 years , it hardly has any dust on it. Most customers don't even know they have a filter I had a customer move to SA from the Uk and brought her dc04 to us complaining of poor suction, when I asked her when last she cleaned the filter she looked suprised and said she didn; know it had one, the machine was 10 years old The industrial cyclones used in woodshops are positive cyclones , if you read dysons book this is what took hime so long to develope , the cyclone in a dyson is a positive and negitave cyclone , nothing at all like the industrial ones. | ||
| Post# 148788 , Reply# 22 8/25/2011 at 21:23 (4,625 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
Dysons
They don't lose suction they do lose airflow though, when everything is fully clean it can pull a 1.5 on the baird guage and when it's dirty it doesn't pull anything. I feel that the air path is too complex for air to flow freely. I have the DC-17 which has the root separators. I typically empty it after each use or two but i still have this feeling that fine dust may be coating the insides of the cyclones. Just my two cents on it.
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| Post# 148847 , Reply# 24 8/26/2011 at 05:55 (4,624 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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the cyclones do get a fine coat of dust on them , when we service them we strip the cyclones down and wash them out, on some of the older model dc08's and o7's the cylone can actually clog when they are over filled to many times .we clean them out and they are as good as new again. the newer 14,and other models have a better cylone system that is very difficult to clog , though some customers do manage it but then they are very special :)
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| Post# 149531 , Reply# 26 8/30/2011 at 08:17 (4,620 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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| Post# 149553 , Reply# 27 8/30/2011 at 09:23 (4,620 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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| Post# 149555 , Reply# 28 8/30/2011 at 09:28 (4,620 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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air flow | ||
| Post# 149647 , Reply# 29 8/30/2011 at 20:47 (4,620 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota) | ||
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Strange you and i get completely different results, in terms of airflow the Dyson is one of my weaker machines it pulls a 1.5 on a Baird airflow meter. the only machines that i have that pull less are my tristar MG2 and my compact saniataire thingy. I've tested some of my other machine and if i recall my Electrolux Silverado pulled about a 3 with a dirty bag and about 4.5 with a clean one. what was really surprising was my little Riccar canister, which is no longer mine, had the most airflow at about a 6 maybe even 7. My kirby G6 at the end of the hose pulls about a 6.5 and at the motor housing on low speed pulls a 10, I"m going to do some re-testing as i lost my chart.
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| Post# 149681 , Reply# 30 8/31/2011 at 01:05 (4,620 days old) by gsheen (Cape Town South Africa) | ||
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yes but I am compairing it to normal vacuums not Kirby's.
I am also not testing it at the end of the hose but at the brush bar , I have a huge test rig that we use to measure the air flow and lift of a vacuum on the carpet. Also remember I'm 220volt , I have noticed that thier is a slight suction differance between the 220 volt motors and the 110volt.( we get 110 volt in for conversions from people moving to SA) what is also dirfferant is the noise level, the 110v machines are much noiser. I have a little aeg( what you guys now call electrolux ) that has huge suction its unreal but it almost cracks its top every time you close up suction. I'll find my charts awell to give you the right figures. | ||
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