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Post# 140503   6/21/2011 at 20:06 (4,663 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

We have been talking about a scrap trap for the kirbys in one of my other topics. One suggestion for minimizing fan breakage was to put a scrap trap on the vacuum. You can find it in my G Series topic. The new kevlar fans are a big improvement from the lexan fans. I still love the sound of those old metal fans. How ever one thing kirby could do to is look at the fans for the hoover conquest. It is the same material or very similar. If Kirby would make the blades just a little more beefy like on the conquest. It would be even more durable and less prone to breakage. I myself haven't broken any fan blades on the kevlar fans installed on my Heritage II or the G 5. (Both fans over 5 yrs old) one of my workers or bank employees sucked up a quarter in the G 5 I loaned out and the fan was undamaged. So I feel the kevlar fan is durable but it couldn't hurt to add a little extra insurance.

Post# 140541 , Reply# 1   6/22/2011 at 03:50 (4,663 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

A problem with plastic fans can be age-don't know how well Kevlar ages-but Lexan and the early plastic fan material Kirby used can suffer age cracks as the plastic gets old-plsticisrs leach out,and chemical changes can occur-and molding stress shows up as the plastic ages.In a Heritage I bought from a Kirby trade in pile-the machine worked GREAT with the floor nozzle at low speed-tried the hose--and BANG! the fan exploded from the higher speed.Looked at the fan peices and they had what looked like age cracks.Needless to say metal fans don't suffer from this problem.I have older vacuums with metal fans-Kirbys,Hoovers and they are fine.I just am not convinced the plastic fans are better than metal ones.I so remember the Royal penny test!

Post# 140558 , Reply# 2   6/22/2011 at 07:24 (4,663 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

I too very much like the metal fans as well. I also have seen the metal fans that developed stress cracks too. High rpms and repeated heating and cooling of any material is going to cause it to fail at some point. While it takes longer for the metal to fail it will in time. I have gotten longer life out of the new kevlar fan and it has had some hard items pass thru that one. If we can't have a metal fan. Then at this time the kevlar is the next best thing. It is a two sided coin. If we made everything to last forever nothing would ever need replacement which means no jobs. At the same time you wish for something that would last for ever. At least we have a goal to make things that last but at the same time need to be replaced at some point to keep the circle of cash flow in motion.

Post# 140562 , Reply# 3   6/22/2011 at 07:38 (4,663 days old) by kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

In my 40+ years of pushing a Kirby I have only had two broken fans. One metal on my Omega when it age a rock while cleaning out the car. (I use a shop vac now). The other Lexan on my Tradition. On the Tradition I didn't pick up anything that caused it, at least at that moment. I had just put the hose on and started the machine and BAMM!! The fan split into two pieces.

In both cases, luckily it is a cheap fix. I think it was $16 C&C. I installed myself.


Post# 140574 , Reply# 4   6/22/2011 at 11:00 (4,663 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️)        
When I was younger

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and used to trash pick vacuums which I would never do with todays vacuums . I always used to find Kirby`s , Hoover convertibles and Eurekas with metal fans always were broken . I am 43 and must have replaced at least 25-30 metal fans in my life due to breakage. Now a days I just deal with Kirby G series and have yet to replace a fan due to breakage. I usually just replace them becuse they are a tad nicked and most people would just clean and leave them on the machine.
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Post# 140579 , Reply# 5   6/22/2011 at 12:47 (4,662 days old) by ryanm (New York )        

Having a Kirby as the main vacuum in my home most of my life, I have seen more than several fans break due to picking up anything from a screw to a quarter. This seemed to always happen when using the hose and attachments, not when cleaning rugs. I currently have a G4 in otherwise mint condition sitting in my basement for years due to a broken fan from sucking up a quarter coin. It was for this reason I decided not to get the machine fixed for everyday use, and to switch to a cannister vacuum, because I got tired of the design that everything you pick up had to go through the fan, thus if you were cleaning under a sofa or a bed with the hose on, or if you wanted to clean your car, you never know what might get sucked up in error, and with a house full of people that can happen. I always loved the Kirby, but always hated the design that you had to be careful that you did not accidentally suck up objects that might damage the fan

Post# 140590 , Reply# 6   6/22/2011 at 16:16 (4,662 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

I've only had to deal with one quite abused LegendII with a broken Lexan (grey) fan, other fans I've had have been chewed or chipped, but not broken, and the Kevlar fans are the worst for chewing because the plastic is softer (which is why it doesn't break, it just absorbs impact and leaves dents, it's why the military uses the stuff for helmets), but metal fans can suffer too, that's why fans are consumable items, they don't last in dirty-fan vacuums... :)

And just for the heck of it, this fan is the one that came out of my no-model-number Hoover Junior (probably a 1334 or early 1346 at heart), it was very chipped & chewed and it was ready to blow apart:



Post# 140591 , Reply# 7   6/22/2011 at 16:21 (4,662 days old) by whirlsonicmore (South US)        

It's good insurance to replace the fan whenever servicing a Kirby. Just about every one I do will get a fan unless it's relatively new. Those fans take a beating.

Post# 140597 , Reply# 8   6/22/2011 at 17:47 (4,662 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

It is amazing what a kirby will in hale. If it will pass thru the space between the blades you can bet it will suck it up. I sucked a crochette needle out of a chair one time and didn't know it until I took the hose off. I was just using the end of the hose cleaning in those dark recesses. Luckly the it stoped at the fan case. (Classic Omega)

Also sucked up a lead fishing sinker thru the head of the same machine. The sinker was under a sofa and sucked it thru the head. the sinker only clanged 3 times thru the machine and started out on the far left side. The only thing I can think of is the belt helped carry it up to the fan. I just hit the power switch at the 3rd clang. It went thru that fast.

Marbles can roll increadibly fast thru a 3 foot wand and 6 ft of hose. I was vacuuming under a bed with the furniture nozzle. Another time by the time I got off the floor and to the switch it was to late. And I started for the switch just as I felt it enter the wand. to bad at the time I didn't think to grab the hose and lift it about a foot off the floor at the same time I went for the switch maybe it would have given me more time but doubt full. I have always said "If a Kirby will suck up things it wasn't designed for you can be confident it is getting the dirt it was built to clean up" Got I love that machine.


Post# 140603 , Reply# 9   6/22/2011 at 18:32 (4,662 days old) by KirbyLover (Louisville Kentucky )        
I just bought a G3 with a shattered fan

The fan material is black plastic (I'm not sure if that is lexan or what?) when my new fan comes in the mail I think it might be white in color (at least it is in the ebay picture) would that be kevlar?

Post# 140609 , Reply# 10   6/22/2011 at 19:05 (4,662 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Genuine Kirby fans are either metal (No longer made), grey (lexan, no longer made) or Creamy-white (Kevlar), anything else is just generic aftermarket parts... :)

Post# 140641 , Reply# 11   6/22/2011 at 21:27 (4,662 days old) by Trebor ()        
Kirby fans are a wear part...

even if you never pick up anything you are not supposed to, they do wear down from sand, grit, gravel and ordinary dirt. The velocity the debris attains from the tremendous air flow causes millions of impacts a second to the fan blades. It makes sense to replace the fan when doing a major service.



Post# 140643 , Reply# 12   6/22/2011 at 21:29 (4,662 days old) by whirlsonicmore (South US)        

Try not to install aftermarket fans. I used to use them but then started seeing the machines come back soon after the replacement was put in. The material just isn't right. Same goes for just about any other machine brand. They're either brittle and don't last or the fan isn't properly molded and makes undue noise. The aftermarket Oreck fan is a good example for that.

Post# 140649 , Reply# 13   6/22/2011 at 22:06 (4,662 days old) by KirbyLover (Louisville Kentucky )        
The one I bought on ebay

Says "Genuine Kirby OEM#119096G" it is creme colored. I did a google search for that number and come across various sites with creme colored fan pictures and they all say lexan?? Guess I'll find out (I'm selling that one anyways lol)

Post# 140650 , Reply# 14   6/22/2011 at 22:13 (4,662 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

Oh yes I have replaced a few fans that were just worn down to nothing. Kirby and Hoovers. Places like founderies and machine shops can wear a fan out in no time. No matter what it is made of. We wore out the fan on my grandmothers 1970 classic just vacuuming up the sand where she lived. The soil is sand as far down as you can dig.

Post# 140651 , Reply# 15   6/22/2011 at 22:16 (4,662 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

Yes best to go the the original manufactures parts. The generic ones just don't seem to hold up as well. May cost a little more up front but by the time you replace a generic part with another generic one a few times you just spent much more than you saved.

Post# 140672 , Reply# 16   6/23/2011 at 01:55 (4,662 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Funny-out in my area-Kirbys came into the Vacuum Cleaner Hospital(when it was opened)and the Greenville Sew and Vac for fan replacements.Mike keeps a steady supply of the plastic fans.they are replaced out here all of the time.Hardly see a Royal metal upright come in needing a fan.and And other plastic fanned vacuums come in needing fans..An aftermarket supplier makes metal fans and steel fan liners for Sanitaires.Bill at the Vacuum Cleaner Hospital specialized in these.The university out here has a huge fleet of Sanitiares.They were even asking for the metal fans and liners to be installed on NEW Sanitaires!I too,would love to see a metal bodied and metal fanned Sanitaire!THAT would be an improvement!The metal Sanitaire fan is the only Bojack part I would go with!.and remember any item going thru a vacuum hose could be going over 100MPH! think of it!And THAT could be going into a Kirby fan spinning even faster becuase of the higher motor speed when you use the hose!At this point rather than having the additional risk of fan blowouts-I use a Cansiter vacuum instead of the hsoe on the Kirby-esp for jobs where you know you can pick up "fan buster" debris like gravel from car floorboards.Yes,I have seen NSS M1 fans eroded-like from paint shops,foundries and such.Keep in mid NSS fans trailing blades can be quarter in thick!Now if you are eroding a fan like that you are picking up SERIOUS stuff!In the hose thing above--large objects will collide into the end of the Kirby motor shaft-don't think this is exactly good for it.This does save the fan,though.The motor shaft tougher then the fan.

Post# 140674 , Reply# 17   6/23/2011 at 02:24 (4,662 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

I have a metal fan in my Sanitaire, I bought it simply because I like metal fans (got two for my Kirbys, a few for my Hoover Juniors (aswell as a couple for pre-1334 Juniors, I think), and of course the one for my pair of Sanitaires, only have one motor so they share the whole assembly), I like the tinglyping noise they make when they pick up something relatively hard, it's kind of musical, in a strange sort of way... :P

The only issue with the metal Sanitaire fan is that it is ever so slightly off balance, so vibrates enough to leave my hand feeling slightly tingly for a little while afterwards, I certainly can feel the difference between the original plastic fan and the metal fan, that's for sure!!!

That said, the metal Sanitaire fan has no real cleaning or airflow advantage over the plastic one, unlike with Kirbys where the metal fan seems to improve airflow when compared to the later Kevlar fans (the Lexan fans are about the same as the metals, but have 11 curved blades, where the metal fan has 10 straight blades), but I do think that the heavier metal fans have a little more force behind them, so don't slow down as easily when something heavy gets in the way, unlike with plastic ones that seem to slow down if they have to tackle a weighty object, kind of like a flywheel on a car engine, the extra weight behind it helping to keep it moving... :)

I could just be talking out of my backside though, I just like believing that about metal fans... :P


Post# 140679 , Reply# 18   6/23/2011 at 07:09 (4,662 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

The metal fans are preferred by the customerThe University here-ECU) out here becuase they are more durable-and resist erosion better-and the steel fancase liner resists erosion and damage better.and its good for fixing Sanitaires whose plastic fancase is cracked or broken.The airflow is the same.I guess there is some thought to the flywheel effects of the metal fan-resists stalling if something is hit.The metal fanned ones here ran just as smooth as the Lexan ones.Can't remember what the supplier of those parts was.

Post# 140738 , Reply# 19   6/23/2011 at 19:36 (4,661 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

Sanitaire and Hoover commercial uprights (Convertable style hoover) do have a small flaw which could be remedied. The fan opening opeing exposes more of the edge of the fan blades unlike with kirby you just see the very tip of the begining of the bade. objects hit the edge of the spinning blades and bounce back down in those models. a smaller fan opening would solve that. How ever the horizontal position of the fan could cause jams. It is also hard to draw heaver objects into these machines because there is a "back wash" of air coming out of the fan opening. Hard as that is to believe. Take the bag off the sanitaire and the bottom plate and turn on the machine. you will find that it has good air flow all of it going in. Replace the bag preferably one that has had some use. So there is back pressure and run the machine again. You will notice a back flow of air around the outer edge of the opening and rushing air going from the middle of the opening. The back flow of air also inhibits the heaver objects from entering the fan in conjuction with the exposed blades makes it difficult to put those things in the bag every time. Some things to make it to the exaust side of the fan. Usually with a few missing blades along the way depending on what did make it into the fan. Try it. I would like to hear if you notice the same thing.

With the kirby and royal metal upright objects first enter thru the troat on the cleaning head by that time it is caught in the high velocity air flow combinded with the vortex going on in that chamber the object only has one place to go and that is into the fan. It is why both those machines can inhale objects others spit out.



Post# 140758 , Reply# 20   6/23/2011 at 21:04 (4,661 days old) by Rolls_rapide (-)        
Plastic fans

I had a Hoover Junior U1104 that had a plastic fan and I thought it had less suction power than its metal fan predecessors. It certainly wasn't good at picking up grit of the size of sea salt granules. Very disappointing.

Talking of plastic fans, what if they were made of PEEK plastic? PolyEtherEtherKetone is used in the aerospace industry, and used in the Dyson digital motor.


Post# 140761 , Reply# 21   6/23/2011 at 21:29 (4,661 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

I'm not familar with P.E.E.K. How does it differ from todays kevlar?

Post# 140764 , Reply# 22   6/23/2011 at 21:42 (4,661 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

My plastic-fanned Junior U1104 was pretty weak too, that's why I got rid of it, that and I hated the dual-purpose footswitch/handle release pedal, very irritating...

That said, my Junior that the above fan came from also has a plastic fan, same type as the U1104, and that does pretty well at cleaning, which is just confusing, maybe the U1104 was just crap... :P


Post# 140788 , Reply# 23   6/24/2011 at 06:36 (4,661 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC)        

Looks like the Hoover Jr fan in the picture was used to clean up after the rock crusher?Some SERIOUS vacuuming done with that fan.Like lots of pebbles must have gone thru it.I always thought Hoover metal fans were pretty tough.

Post# 140822 , Reply# 24   6/24/2011 at 20:02 (4,660 days old) by twocvbloke ()        

Yeah, it had a hard life, it's in a box somewhere now, never to be used again, but despite it's rebuild date of '97 by a Hoover authorised service dealer, I doubt whoever did it (using cheap aftermarket parts) bothered to strip the motor down and clean it out or replace the fan, cos the motor was packed with fluff, the original hoover made metal fan as you can see was chewed more than a dog's bone with a fractured blade, the cable had been run over several times, and the front bearing was shot, so was quite a task to fix up, but I got there, and replaced the bag with a deeper blue generic "State the obvious" bag...

It does make me wonder how they didn't kill the motor picking up stuff that caused that much damage, but, it just goes to show how tough the metal fans are... :)


Post# 140826 , Reply# 25   6/24/2011 at 20:24 (4,660 days old) by thevacuumman (Borger, TX)        

I know my Kirby 510 has a metal fan that looks like it had been barely used
my Kirby Classic has a Lexan fan in a kirby that i know has been used roughly my grandparents garage had carpet and they would use it to pick up rocks, bolts, etc.
the Heritage Legend II has a Kevlar fan and the one that was in it when i got it all of the blades were worn off of the fan


Post# 140832 , Reply# 26   6/24/2011 at 21:14 (4,660 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        
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Wonder if that Heritage two was used in an area with sandy soil or if it was used in a foundry or metal shop type office environment? And how long it has been on the machine as a way to gage how long the new fans will last in rough environments. Were the blades worn down or broken off?

Post# 140835 , Reply# 27   6/24/2011 at 21:28 (4,660 days old) by thevacuumman (Borger, TX)        

most of them were broken off and i found six of them in the Mini-Emptor one of the blades had a nail drove through it. but it was used in a home that my dad's friend owned

Post# 140836 , Reply# 28   6/24/2011 at 21:31 (4,660 days old) by thevacuumman (Borger, TX)        

i do know one of the lexan fans that was on the Classic(my grandpa had 5 or 6 fans in a drawer) was worn down because their back yard was mostly sand

Post# 140918 , Reply# 29   6/25/2011 at 14:33 (4,659 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

How long did he get out of each of those fans. Next time I go to our get away I'm going to check out the fan on the classic we have there. The fan has been on it since about 1992 to 1994. All sand up there as well.

Post# 140922 , Reply# 30   6/25/2011 at 14:57 (4,659 days old) by thevacuumman (Borger, TX)        

about 2-3 years if he didnt pick up a nail or a rock or something like that

Post# 141900 , Reply# 31   7/3/2011 at 20:46 (4,651 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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I want to get a curved bladed fan for my Sanitaire. It has the plastic straight blade version in at the moment and I find this makes it spit things out.

Does anyone know where I can get one with curved blades from that are more like the kirby blades?


Post# 141905 , Reply# 32   7/3/2011 at 20:52 (4,651 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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Reason I ask is the straight blades of the clear lexan fan in the vacuum seem to bounce small bits of grit and small stones back off it and then it spits them back out, a bit like the hoover juniors used to do...

I was thinking the curved blades which are shaped more like the kirby fan would be better as the grit should follow the curves of the blade and up into the bag?

Its so annoying as when I vacuum my door mat it spits half the small bits of grit and stones that have been trodden in back out.

Kirby doesnt do this though and never spits back out, I know the fan is not upside down though on Kirby but the blades are curved also.

I have the ZC-880.


Post# 141915 , Reply# 33   7/3/2011 at 21:25 (4,651 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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This is the type of fan I mean.

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Post# 141980 , Reply# 34   7/4/2011 at 13:59 (4,650 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        
curved fan blades

It isn't so much about the curviture of the fan blades as it is about the exposure of the blades themselves. Look at exposure of the fan blades on the kirby and compare it to how much of the acutal blades you see exposed thru the fan opening on the eureka. You will see the difference. That is what is causing the bounce back. Objects are striking the edge of the blade(s) as it tries to enter the fan opening.

Post# 141983 , Reply# 35   7/4/2011 at 14:51 (4,650 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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I need to develop something that reduces the opening to the fan so the blades are not as exposed.

Post# 141996 , Reply# 36   7/4/2011 at 17:57 (4,650 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        
Curved fan blades

You will have to use something thin like sheet tin. You will also have to find some kind of cement that will bond the tin in place or other materials. You will not be able to screw or rivit anything tru the fan case other wise the Fan will hang up on the screws or rivits. At the back of the fan opening there isn't much to attach anything to. It is something that eureka would really need to "fix" with new molds that have a smaller fan openings on the quick clean out fan cases or the machines that the fan case is molded as part of the main body.

Post# 142027 , Reply# 37   7/5/2011 at 00:42 (4,650 days old) by richardc1983 (Leeds, UK)        

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I guess Eureka say its a feature of the vacuum that it will spit out anything to large to suck up but what is actually happening is it is hitting the blades and coming back out.

Has the size of the opening changed much on models through the years?


Post# 142197 , Reply# 38   7/6/2011 at 20:06 (4,648 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        
Eureka fan opening

No the fan opening has remained the same for decades. Chances are there won't be any changes to it's design. As that has been what has worked for them for years.


Post# 342953 , Reply# 39   2/6/2016 at 06:51 (2,973 days old) by Blackheart (North Dakota)        
Performance and Durability

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A while back i took some baird meter readings, these numbers were recorded at the end of a hose.
The Heritage II is using a plastic fan and pulls an 8.5
The Legend II is using a metal fan and pulled just under 10 probably about 9.75

I no longer have that Heritage II, and the Legend II has been given an amodel fan since it wasn't working well with the "looser" carpet in my apartment.

I feel that the kevlar and amodel fans are far more durable than the metal fans which makes them better suited to the average user, like my parents, who suck up pennies, nickles, screws, and larger rocks. I'm sure it's not intentional, but it makes it's way into that emptor somehow. *shrugs*


Post# 342976 , Reply# 40   2/6/2016 at 12:38 (2,972 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        
Some interesting info...

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I did some research on this and what I found is very interesting. 

The fans that are installed in the newest Kirby's from the G5 through Avalir are made of Amodel, NOT Kevlar as almost everyone on here on Vacuumland have thought. 

 

For a while Kirby used Lexan, which was discontinued when the switch to superior Amodel was made in the G5. Amodel is widely used in the Aerospace industry, in fact, Amodel was widely used to build the Space Shuttle. It was was used primarily for the framework of the Shuttle's fuselage.  Kirby designed the new fan with the aid of NASA so that it would be the most durable and produce maximum airflow(CFM). Many folks here on Vacuumland, confused Lexan and Kevlar with Amodel. The fact is that Kevlar was never used in any Kirby vacuum .  There were some problems with the Lexan fans after a few years of use. They would suffer stress fractures and would break apart if hit by any foreign object (not regular dirt).

 

Amodel is a new type of polymer that is stronger than either Aluminum, which is used in the Royal metal upright vacuums, or Kevlar which was NEVER used in any Kirby vacuum. The Amodel fan is tougher than metal and believe it or not, will always outlast Lexan and metal fans. 

 

Back in 1998, Kirby did a demonstration for a large group of vacuum enthusiasts during a tour of the factory where they used a Kirby G5 vacuum with Amodel fan to suck up a bowlful of small nuts, bolts, glass fragments and pebbles. After disassembly, the fan had only a couple of very small nicks on it and deemed fully serviceable. 

 

The Kirby Avalir with it's higher speed motor, and NASA designed Amodel fan, produces more airflow (127 CFM) than any previous Kirby model. 

 

Here is a statement by Solvay Advanced Polymers which is the manufacturer of AMODEL polymers. You can find this statement on their website with the link provided below:

 

" About AMODEL Polyphthalamide-- 

 

With a heat deflection temperature of 536 degrees Fahrenheit (280 degreesCelsius) and continuous use temperature of 338 degrees Fahrenheit (170 degrees Celsius), AMODEL PPA retains its exceptional mechanical properties -- strength, stiffness, fatigue and creep resistance -- over a broad range and in high humidity environments. This versatile family of high-temperature nylons can give you the strength of aluminum, the stiffness of steel, and the impactand ductility of hard rubber --

 

I hope you all enjoyed the fruits of my research of AMODEL and look forward to reading comments any of you may have. 

 

-Stan 

 

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Post# 342983 , Reply# 41   2/6/2016 at 12:51 (2,972 days old) by sptyks (Skowhegan, Maine)        

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Here is another link that is very interesting. It is a Kirby/NASA article that describes how NASA and Kirby collaborated to create the new Amodel fan:

 

spinoff.nasa.gov/spinoff1997/ch9....

 

 


Post# 363624 , Reply# 42   12/14/2016 at 18:12 (2,660 days old) by 123go (USA)        
Old and still interesting thread here...Thanks

Well' yesterday was a great day, I bought a Kirby G7D Diamond that came from an estate sale for $85 and it looks absolutely brand new inside/out. It's not a reman or restored model it is in fact new. I even pulled the case off and it's simply has never been used but a couple times "maybe". Just some very light dust inside of both the vacuum suction areas & its tools. Really this light dust is all I can see in it "anywhere" and most tools never had been used as the inside still shines. When I say dust I mean like what's found in a week on a new coffee table dust here...Whoever bought it never used it or it was more than likely a demo maybe idk?

Now the odd part, I always knew how tough the Kirby fan is and how they like to advertise its toughness so I came here to see if Kirby ever done any demo's using coins and marbles but I guess not? That is what I assumed it was?
Inside this Diamonds bag was 10 clear glass marbles,one was split in 1/2 and 2 dimes. There's (1 folded like a taco) dating 2002 the other a 1985 with an edge cut off and also dinged up a bunch. The Kirby fan only has 1 very tiny nick in one blade. I assume the nick is from one of the dimes but that is it's only damage.
This thing is an absolute beauty inside & out and performs like brand new! I thought it's handle label was bubbled when I first saw it, I looked closer then pulled the cellophane cover off and wallah...It's a new machine!!
I will never know if it was bought & simply never used or a demo but either way I'm a very very happy camper over it and I really & truly thank them for saving it all these years just for me...lol
IMO: I think its a demo and the salesman either took it upon himself or Kirby taught him a Marble-Coin demo to show customers? Idk?
Thanks
Anyone ever heard of a Marble-Coin demos Kirby may have had their salesmen do? I can't locate any info on that.


Post# 363627 , Reply# 43   12/14/2016 at 19:35 (2,660 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA)        

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Enjoy that Diamond!

Post# 363643 , Reply# 44   12/15/2016 at 08:24 (2,660 days old) by Kirbysthebest (Midwest)        

I used to demo the Kirby by sucking up a penny. 


Post# 363724 , Reply# 45   12/16/2016 at 22:02 (2,658 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        

@Kirbysthebest

I remember watching the salesman do that when my folks bought their Classic Omega. I have done it myself a few times not seeing the coin.

I don't know if that was part of the demo when I bought my Heritage II. I walked into that demo about half way thru the sales pitch. I did know what I was buying as I had used a Heritage II that someone I knew had. And also know from past experience what can be sucked thru a Kirby. Good, bad or indifferent.


Post# 363725 , Reply# 46   12/16/2016 at 22:07 (2,658 days old) by kirby519 (Wisconsin)        
Amodel Fans

I will say that I have been very satisfied with the new generation of fan for the Kirby's. So far I haven't had any breakage or stress cracking on any of the machines I have.

Post# 363739 , Reply# 47   12/17/2016 at 09:21 (2,658 days old) by ronni (USA)        
@123go re: reply #42

"I will never know if it was bought & simply never used or a demo ... "

Why not contact Kirby and have it reference check your serial # to see if it had been sold?



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