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| Post# 123011 , Reply# 1 1/25/2011 at 20:58 (4,832 days old) by electroluxxxx (……) | ||
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did you check all of the inlets to make sure it was not clogged? | ||
| Post# 123015 , Reply# 2 1/25/2011 at 21:31 (4,832 days old) by suckolux (Yuba City, CA) | ||
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| Post# 123016 , Reply# 3 1/25/2011 at 21:35 (4,832 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
Brushes aren`t like typical American Vac`s 
Strong suction never cleans well . It is airflow along with proper agitation. The Dyson Brush roll just doesn`t seem to have enough bristles or seem long enough as say a Kirby , Aerus,Oreck , Hoover Convertible ect. I think it a rather cool looking machine but as far as a deep cleaner I prefer my Kirby`s any day .Just my opionion .
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Post# 123027 , Reply# 4 1/26/2011 at 02:37 (4,831 days old) by tolivac  (Greenville,NC) |
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Is there dog hair wrapped around the brushroll-this would hinder its performance.Is the filter or cyclones clogged-happens. | ||
| Post# 123033 , Reply# 5 1/26/2011 at 09:17 (4,831 days old) by vac_whisperer () | ||
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No, the brushroll was clean- and like i said, the suction in the hose was great. I think what happened was the bristles just werent quite stiff enough to get the job done. VW | ||
| Post# 123042 , Reply# 6 1/26/2011 at 10:13 (4,831 days old) by retrovacguy65 () | ||
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| Post# 123044 , Reply# 7 1/26/2011 at 11:00 (4,831 days old) by vac_whisperer () | ||
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No, it wasnt mine. It was a relatives. VW | ||
| Post# 123059 , Reply# 8 1/26/2011 at 15:00 (4,831 days old) by nick (Hastings, New Zealand) | ||
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brush roll could be worn down | ||
| Post# 123061 , Reply# 9 1/26/2011 at 15:18 (4,831 days old) by vac_whisperer () | ||
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Didnt look worn down... It was bought less than a year ago. VW | ||
| Post# 123081 , Reply# 10 1/26/2011 at 16:21 (4,831 days old) by kirbylux77 (London, Ontario, Canada) | ||
This is one of the reasons why I bought a Bissell Healthy Ho
My ex Craig has the Dyson DC07 & a golden retriever. Whenever he vacuumed, half the hair was wrapped around the brushroll & half was in the dirtbin. Needless to say, he was frustrated with the Dyson & on my suggestion, replaced it with a Kenmore canister vacuum; the Dyson hardly gets used now.
When I first met Craig, & he told me of his problems with the Dyson after a while, I tried it out on his carpet, which is medium-pile berber & was not impressed! The brushroll BARELY touched the rug! When I decided to buy my first multi-cyclonic vacuum to add to the collection, that's the reason why I bought the Bissell Healthy Home 5770 over the Dyson. That, & I also didn't like the fact that the Dyson & most others at the time were using washable HEPA filters, which in my opinion is NOT real HEPA filtration. The Bissell was one of the few multicyclonic uprights that used a true, replaceable HEPA H12 filter- which is CRUCIAL to maintaining good air quality while vacuuming if there is no filters inside the dirtbin. Also, if one was reading Consumer Reports at the time, the Bissell Healthy Home 5770 was also beating all the other multicyclonic vacuums, including Dyson, in their tests. That is, until the Dyson DC28 Airmuscle came out.... Rob | ||
| Post# 123130 , Reply# 12 1/26/2011 at 22:56 (4,831 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Wonderful Bare Floor Vacuum | ||
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Post# 123140 , Reply# 13 1/27/2011 at 08:54 (4,830 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona) |
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There are two problems with Dysons.
The first is they don't have much airflow at the floor. So they don't clean very well. The the worst of all, is they have brainwashed their customers. Someone owns a Bissell Clearveiw, they don't change the belt or clean the filters, it losses suction. Time for a Dyson! People are so stupid I read reviews from people who think carpet tracks are the result of suction. They think it's hard to remember Hoover type Y at Walmart. Your Bissell just needs 10 minuets of your time and your good to go. This could be with any vacuum, but Bissell is smart. They print the belt and filter(or bag) number on the vacuum. Anyway, I have never experienced any large loss of suction, and I do abuse my vacuums. | ||
| Post# 123149 , Reply# 14 1/27/2011 at 13:37 (4,830 days old) by kirbyvertibles (Independence, KS) | ||
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| Post# 123167 , Reply# 15 1/27/2011 at 16:53 (4,830 days old) by nick (Hastings, New Zealand) | ||
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problems with Dysons i have found that most customers fail to read the instruction booklet past the how to assemble section filters are never cleaned or changed resulting in diminished airflow, and that air flow cools the motor so its at risk too. but hey, ill sell you new filters | ||
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Post# 123179 , Reply# 16 1/27/2011 at 19:30 (4,830 days old) by compactelectra (Palm Springs) |
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OK Guys
We keep on losing posters (and some good long-term posters) because of Dyson-bashing. Please re-read the rules of the forum. Bashing machines creates a hostile environment - not something we want here. I am going to be vigilant about this. It does not create the type of environment we want here. I hesitate to ask but what is it about those machines that creates such rancor? I have one that was gifted to me by a friend. Not to my taste, but not anything that generates hostility! I really would like one of the canisters.
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| Post# 123181 , Reply# 17 1/27/2011 at 19:52 (4,830 days old) by gusherb (Chicagoland) | ||
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I thought everybody was having a nice civilized conversation about the downsides and issues with the Dyson machines. I didn't see anything become heated or anyone breaking out in argument. To me I just thought everyone was stating there opinions of a machine and stating why there opinion is that way. | ||
| Post# 123182 , Reply# 18 1/27/2011 at 20:18 (4,830 days old) by vac_whisperer () | ||
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sorry, fred Ill make sure it doesnt happen again. VW | ||
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Post# 123187 , Reply# 19 1/27/2011 at 21:14 (4,830 days old) by compactelectra (Palm Springs) |
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Gusherb
This thread was heading in that direction - somewhat subtle. If you have been following the forums, this is one issue that has erupted in flames in some of the threads. A common and unpleasant direction. For some reason, people have really strong feelings about the Dyson. Remember this? Lost another poster. One of many.
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| Post# 123192 , Reply# 21 1/27/2011 at 21:44 (4,830 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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New Member a bit disapointed in this site .
I thought I had joined a vacuum collectors group based in the United States of America that interacted with all countries and anyone who had an opinion weather a pro or a con about the many different vacuums out in this wonderful world. I did not realize you could only say happy and positive things about Vacuums on this site . How can we learn the pros and cons of all manufacturers if we can only speak about how much we love all brands ? I see other people stating facts about other brands both positive and the negative . This only seem`s to happen if some one says anything negative about the "D" word . Why is that this is the only brand that must be spoke of in a positive light only ? I have been collecting vacuums for over 35 years and thought this was a great idea where we could share our honest opinions about different brands hopefully the companies of all vacuums could learn from us the "experts" and build better vacuums so that one day we might find every brand to please all of us equally . I read a lot of negative (cons) about other brands such as TTI , Riccar , Royal ect. but only mention a con about the "d" word and it seems to anger some the most ? I read this as a learning experiance and even picked up a used DC17 to really try to figure this brand out , I guess I will just have to point out only the wonderful things about it which I think is really unfair . Danny
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Post# 123193 , Reply# 22 1/27/2011 at 21:53 (4,830 days old) by compactelectra (Palm Springs) |
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Sorry Guys | ||
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Post# 123196 , Reply# 23 1/27/2011 at 21:57 (4,830 days old) by compactelectra (Palm Springs) |
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BTW
My job is not easy. I don't have much of an opinion one way or the other about Dysons (except that they are expensive.) I stand back and watch what happens. But for some reason, when the discussion turns to Dyson, everything heats up and gets ugly. I have had a lot of feedback about this. Think about it.
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| Post# 123200 , Reply# 24 1/27/2011 at 22:15 (4,830 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR) | ||
Well, Daniel --
While I think your comments and your right to an opinion are generally valid.....we had a few posters in the past who REALLY got ugly about Dyson - not just expressing their opinion in a polite, objective way, but in a nasty, snarling, always-the-same snide manner. I think people do have a right to express an opinion about brands, but I can see why Fred is vigilant about this particular subject. MANY people were offended by those few posters' unrelenting Dyson-bashing. SO, forgive us for being a little touchy about the subject, but it probably does require Fred's review, given past history and events. | ||
| Post# 123202 , Reply# 25 1/27/2011 at 22:43 (4,830 days old) by kirbyloverdan (Egg Harbor Twp . NJ aka HOOVERLOVERDAN ❤️) | ||
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Very Understandable
I did see that person who was nasty and bashing the Dyson vacuum . Did someone in this posting "Plastic Vac alert" get that nasty ? I might have just missed it , if I did I am sorry . There are many collectors on this site that are very passionate about vacuums and sometimes have differing opinions both positive and negative and it seem`s that only when the "d" word is spoken in a manner of not praising it then SOME fellow collectors on here get very upset as PETEK from Ontario stated about staying away from talking about Dysons , but this seemed very informative . I think we are all adults and can hopefully express our likes and dislikes in a kind manner of every brand including Dysons and not have to feel like we are walking on egg shells . I really enjoy this site and thank you Fred and everyone else for great postings of all brands of Vacuum Cleaners .
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| Post# 123208 , Reply# 28 1/28/2011 at 02:14 (4,829 days old) by alaskabob () | ||
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it should make no difference to people's lives well said as long as no one personally attacks someone all opinions should be allowed and respected i may not agree with what you say but will defend your right to say it this is america land of free speech | ||
| Post# 123233 , Reply# 30 1/28/2011 at 08:00 (4,829 days old) by portable (Corvallis, OR) | ||
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I think we all should get points for being civil...very adult.
And to throw my opinion in the ring...when I first laid eyes on a Dyson, I thought "It looks like a toy and it is just too fussy. I want my metal-based vacuums to make a comeback". Since then the world has changed 50 or 100 times. Bagless vacuums have become MUCH more popular, Dysons have improved and have become a gorilla in the competitive market, and many large, formerly well-made vacuums have gone down the path to near-extinction in the name of survival and suicidal cost-cutting measures. Though I still find Dysons not my cup of tea, I think they have improved a LOT. I think they are a formidable competitor with a better product than they used to have. BUT....I personally find bagless vacuums require just too much maintenance to perform on a regular basis. The old-style vacuums with a bag were pretty easy to maintain. And I believe that the average user is NOT going to do the maintenance. It was tough enough in the "olden days" to get them to change the bag and belt! | ||
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Post# 123235 , Reply# 31 1/28/2011 at 08:06 (4,829 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida) |
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My brother and sis in law LOVE their Dyson Ball. I've never had any personal experience with their product, only go by what I see and hear. So far, I've heard more good, and I am not always a sunny and positive person, but I don't believe in relentless (negative) critique of them or any other product represented on this site.
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Post# 123248 , Reply# 32 1/28/2011 at 10:46 (4,829 days old) by jfalberti (Visalia, CA) |
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I have two Dysons
A model DC07 All Floors, and a DC14 All Floors. They are not the best cleaners I have in my collection, but they are far from the worst too. As far as bagless goes, I generally prefer bagged machines. Besides the Dysons, I have two other bagless vacuums. One is a Eureka Altima, and the other is a cheap Kenmore canister. The Altima is a PITA to empty and needs a lot of maintenance, however as with anything else, if properly maintained it performs well. The Kenmore is useless. The dirt cup is so small, it needs frequent emptying in use. The filter in it also is useless. It plugs up so fast, and suction drops so fast, that I have put this machine away and never use it any more.
As far as the Dysons go, I find that if someone absolutely has to have a bagless machine, then the Dyson system is among the best. It has two filters, a pre-motor filter that is easily checked and washed, and a post motor HEPA filter that you are never supposed to have to clean or replace. When I got my DC07, I bought new filters for it simply because I didn't know what kind of environment it came from, not because I had to. The HEPA filter, while it had some dust was in very good condition. Even though I changed it anyway, I kept the old for a spare "just in case". I also like how easy it is to check and clear clogs in the machines. Since I got my DC14, I hardly use the DC07 anymore, and a good lady friend of mine wants a Dyson so bad, but she can't afford to buy one. I think I'm gonna surprise her tonight and gift her the DC07. Hope she likes it. | ||
| Post# 123258 , Reply# 33 1/28/2011 at 13:10 (4,829 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC) | ||
I think some people get more offended than others when it comes to their favorite brand. I am a TTI dealer, warranty station, and see a lot of their products before you people even know about them. However, I sit back and listen to the bashings of TTI and say nothing. While it is kind of obnoxious and most of the bashers of TTI show a complete ignorance to skills concerning mass production and marketing, I do not really "flare up" with the postings. Then again, TTI products are not my TOL offerings either.
I have noticed over time with customers that Dysons are either adored and loved or they are hated. I guess that is the same with vacuum collectors. You either adore that plastic mass produced vacuum, or you hate it. We are all very passionate about collecting, and a lot of us are very passionate about brands we love. In the words of Rodney King..."Can't we all just get along?" For those of us who love the Hoover convertible...I was visiting with one of TTI's regional sales manager yesterday and pretty much begged him to come out with a dealers only version of the Decade 80...Royal just came out with a commercial model that is a revamped Decade 80 and it is gorgeous. | ||
| Post# 123263 , Reply# 34 1/28/2011 at 16:01 (4,829 days old) by alaskabob () | ||
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revamped Decade 80 and it is gorgeous wow it is very nice LED headlight too CLICK HERE TO GO TO alaskabob's LINK | ||
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Post# 123266 , Reply# 36 1/28/2011 at 17:02 (4,829 days old) by arh1953 ( River Park, in Port St. Lucie, Florida) |
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I love it!! | ||
| Post# 123281 , Reply# 37 1/28/2011 at 19:14 (4,829 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC) | ||
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It is MAP'd at $299. Really nice machine with a very nice warranty. If demand is high enough, we will likely direct wire a 30-35' cord on the machine, install a Hoover Type A outer bag and market the machine as a household machine also. I've got the machines on order and would be happy to take some photos when they arrive to show fellow vacuum collectors.
I have known about this machine for quite awhile and immediately suggested to a number of folks that this needs to be rebadged as a Royal or Hoover household machine. This could very well be a possibility. The Royal MRY6500 is also marketed through vac stores as a Hoover Signature. The difference between the Royal and Hoover is that the Hoover is 2-speed with a shorter cord and different color. When my rep and her supervisor were out at the store the other morning, I pulled my Hoover catalog page from the early-mid 80s and showed them the perfect lime green color for the Decade 80. | ||
| Post# 123341 , Reply# 40 1/29/2011 at 12:57 (4,828 days old) by petek (Ontario) | ||
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Does the brushroll on it have beater bars or just bristles? And will it fit in the older Hoovers? | ||
| Post# 123423 , Reply# 41 1/30/2011 at 13:05 (4,827 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC) | ||
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