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Thread Number: 10972
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| Post# 118633 12/18/2010 at 20:22 (4,876 days old) by OpelGTKarl (Puyallup, Washington) | ||
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Post# 118635 , Reply# 1 12/18/2010 at 20:36 (4,876 days old) by compactelectra  (Palm Springs) |
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Here's One | ||
| Post# 118638 , Reply# 2 12/18/2010 at 21:10 (4,876 days old) by joe22 () | ||
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i dont remember whos pic this is 
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| Post# 118642 , Reply# 3 12/18/2010 at 21:21 (4,876 days old) by joe22 () | ||
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i am bison, hear me roar. . . has a speed control on the handle CLICK HERE TO GO TO joe22's LINK | ||
| Post# 118756 , Reply# 5 12/20/2010 at 01:23 (4,875 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah) | ||
The Beltless Bison
I understand that the Bison was belt less. The brush roller was driven by gears. I was also told that the gears were prone to break, were very loud and the company had many complaints. However, the idea was good. You could push a leaver on the side with your foot and disconnect the nozzle from the motor unit. I believe that the designer of the Bison had worked for Kirby, had the idea for the belt-less design but Kirby did not want to use it, so he started his own company. My former boss told me that a lot of Kirby salesmen went to Bison. Someone once told me that he had converted a Bison to use Kirby belts, but I don't know how well that worked.
Weather it was a good design or not I'd love to have one. It's certainly a one-of-a-kind vac. | ||
| Post# 118759 , Reply# 6 12/20/2010 at 01:32 (4,875 days old) by electrolux~137 () | ||
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Here's a link to my Bison on YouTube. CLICK HERE TO GO TO electrolux~137's LINK | ||
| Post# 118761 , Reply# 7 12/20/2010 at 01:36 (4,875 days old) by electrolux~137 () | ||
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And here are some photos of my Bison. 
It really is an ugly thing, isn't it. | ||
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Post# 118770 , Reply# 8 12/20/2010 at 04:51 (4,875 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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the Bison is Ugly-but BEAUTIFUL too.would love to have the green one and the brown one(Mark3,Centurion).the plastic motor housing looks fragile though,how many housings out there are cracked or broken? | ||
| Post# 118797 , Reply# 10 12/20/2010 at 12:12 (4,874 days old) by Sablekid () | ||
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I shall begin my hunt to find one of those! Even though I love the way those look, they seem a bit clunky...especially compared to a Kirby. They do look Star-wars esque! | ||
| Post# 118799 , Reply# 11 12/20/2010 at 12:32 (4,874 days old) by thunderhexed (Edmond, OK) | ||
one of my dream machines..  | ||
| Post# 118805 , Reply# 12 12/20/2010 at 14:13 (4,874 days old) by kirbyeureka95 () | ||
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2 questions... 1. can someone post a picture with the nozzle removed please? 2. isnt the geared belt drive what weve seen in the new kirby copyright plans? | ||
| Post# 118846 , Reply# 15 12/20/2010 at 19:53 (4,874 days old) by kenkart () | ||
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The difference... Between a Bison and Kirby, beside the fact that the Bison is basically a backwards copy...is that the Bison, when operating properly will clean RINGS around even the newest Kirbys,they are so powerful it is almost unbelieveable! | ||
| Post# 118849 , Reply# 16 12/20/2010 at 20:10 (4,874 days old) by electrolux~137 () | ||
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@Hans - I didn't know that -- I've never actually used mine for cleaning, just pushing it around my (former) workshop. Glad to know it has SOME redeeming qualities, hahaha! How about the straight suction through the hose? | ||
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Post# 118853 , Reply# 17 12/20/2010 at 21:10 (4,874 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon) |
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Adjustable Speed by Dial
What made the Bisons unique was the ability to adjust the speed with a dial.
Some Hoover Turbomasters in the UK had adjustable speeds, too, including this example (on which you must push a button several times) in the link I'll give you. CLICK HERE TO GO TO KirbyClassicIII's LINK | ||
| Post# 118862 , Reply# 19 12/20/2010 at 22:12 (4,874 days old) by djtaylor (Salt Lake City, Utah) | ||
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Thank you
Rick, thank you for clearing up the belt or beltless issue. A friend in Indiana once told me that he was using Kirby belts on his Bison and I was trying to figure out how he was doing it. I am sorry to say that I was given a load of BS on how Bisons worked and what wore out early on some of them.
Thanks Justin | ||
| Post# 118934 , Reply# 22 12/21/2010 at 16:12 (4,873 days old) by joe22 () | ||
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SANTA i really, really, really want one ;^) | ||
| Post# 118960 , Reply# 23 12/21/2010 at 21:45 (4,873 days old) by powertank () | ||
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I heard that the designer of the Bison used to work for Kirby, and left because he felt that he had been wronged. Could be total BS, but who knows. | ||
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Post# 118988 , Reply# 24 12/22/2010 at 05:03 (4,873 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Wasn't it Kirby that was sort of reponsible for the Bison co to shut down-thought Kirby filed lawsuits against Bison becuse of the similarities in designs.Yet the Bison machine is somewhat diffrent then the Kirby design.Guess Kirby wasn't flattered by the Bison competition? | ||
| Post# 120324 , Reply# 25 1/5/2011 at 23:15 (4,858 days old) by OpelGTKarl (Puyallup, Washington) | ||
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Now the real question is.... | ||
| Post# 120389 , Reply# 27 1/6/2011 at 12:21 (4,857 days old) by Ohio_Tuec () | ||
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Someone had posted awhile back that there WAS a prototype Bison that was self-propelled. Didn't Clay Floyd used to sell Bison machines? - Karl | ||
| Post# 120434 , Reply# 28 1/6/2011 at 20:47 (4,857 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC) | ||
Here's a neat little bit of info on someone who worked for Bison...this guy also claims to have sold over 1000 Kirbys a month, so consider the source folks.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO scvacuumguy's LINK | ||
| Post# 120467 , Reply# 29 1/7/2011 at 08:17 (4,856 days old) by twocvbloke () | ||
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"Kirby bags never again" Except that it uses cheap pleated filters which you only have to buy when they clog up..... ;) | ||
| Post# 120469 , Reply# 30 1/7/2011 at 08:39 (4,856 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC) | ||
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It looks to me like a Eureka tank- the one that uses the DCF 10/14 filter. I'd give him an A for creativity, but the whole idea really chokes off the airflow on the Kirby. The airflow is what makes a Kirby a decent machine- so I'd imagine with the addition of that tank, the Kirby will have a hard time performing. It probably also packs that filter very quickly, considering those filters are used to the crap Eureka Optima and its sorry little amount of suction.
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| Post# 120478 , Reply# 32 1/7/2011 at 09:08 (4,856 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC) | ||
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| Post# 120515 , Reply# 33 1/7/2011 at 19:04 (4,856 days old) by bisonian (Where the buffalo roamed! (Ocala, FL)) | ||
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No ... The bag assemblies for Bisons and Kirbys are not interchangeable. The fittings that hold the emptors on the machines are different. | ||
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Post# 120569 , Reply# 34 1/8/2011 at 02:40 (4,856 days old) by tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Not wanting to use disposable bags in the Kirby--Why doesn't Mr Keeler try to develop a Dump bag system for the Kirby--Like WHAT THEY USED TO USE.Would rather have a dump bag than Mr Keelers unit. | ||
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