Thread Number: 10787
Are any Hoovers MAade in the USA anymore?
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Post# 116579   12/1/2010 at 10:51 (4,866 days old) by frosty29 ()        

Or did TTI move all production to China

Post# 116604 , Reply# 1   12/1/2010 at 16:21 (4,866 days old) by bagintheback (Flagstaff, Arizona)        

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I think only bags are made in the US now

Post# 116605 , Reply# 2   12/1/2010 at 18:04 (4,866 days old) by frosty29 ()        

That is really sad

Post# 116607 , Reply# 3   12/1/2010 at 18:13 (4,866 days old) by KirbyClassicIII (Milwaukie, Oregon)        

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This is reason enough why I'll never forget the 1980s and earlier decades.

~Ben


Post# 116610 , Reply# 4   12/1/2010 at 19:13 (4,866 days old) by gusherb (Chicagoland)        

Mexico and China are the only current production places I know of.

Post# 116615 , Reply# 5   12/1/2010 at 19:42 (4,866 days old) by frosty29 ()        

They should put a tariff on all imports this is getting ridiculous

Post# 116619 , Reply# 6   12/1/2010 at 20:01 (4,866 days old) by xraytech ()        

the production of Hoovers in North Canton came to an end at the end of 2007, they are now made in China thanks to TTI

Post# 116621 , Reply# 7   12/1/2010 at 20:03 (4,866 days old) by Sablekid ()        

I think Kirby is the last one left here in the states.

Post# 116623 , Reply# 8   12/1/2010 at 20:11 (4,866 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)        
No..

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Riccar/Simplicity are still made here

Post# 116624 , Reply# 9   12/1/2010 at 20:14 (4,866 days old) by xraytech ()        

so is Filter Queen

Post# 116628 , Reply# 10   12/1/2010 at 21:24 (4,866 days old) by DysonAnimal ()        
What about Oreck?

In TTI's defense, the cost of bringing the North Canton plant up to standard to meet the volume of production required to remain competitive would have been astronomical. It simply wasn't a viable proposition - sometimes, tradition has to make way for cold, hard business sense. And vacuum cleaner manufacturing IS a business, not a game.

Post# 116629 , Reply# 11   12/1/2010 at 21:32 (4,866 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)        

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I forgot about Oreck. There is a lot then isn't there. I have no idea, but I am thinking Rainbow might be?

Post# 116630 , Reply# 12   12/1/2010 at 21:32 (4,866 days old) by powertank ()        

Filter Queen uses chinese ametek motors. It's sad. Most motors are chinese now, unfortunately. I think some ametek/lamb motors are still made in the states, though. For large motors, I know Baldor continues to make great quality motors here.

I could have sworn I saw some Hoover bags in the shop that were made in England. Maybe I'm just making things up.


Post# 116685 , Reply# 13   12/2/2010 at 13:35 (4,865 days old) by Ohio_Tuec ()        

Some new Oreck models (i.e. the Edge) are now made in China as well. They have a relatively new line of commercial models that look like Sanitaires but are made in China as well. As for Hoover, well IMHO, it would have been better for them to go out of business completely than have their name now dragged through the dirt (pun intended) by TTI. I really loved the new Connie & am sorry it had such a short production run. R.I.P. Hoover "as we knew it...."

- Karl


Post# 116686 , Reply# 14   12/2/2010 at 13:49 (4,865 days old) by vacman117 (Chicago, IL)        
In TTI's defense...

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Some of their new machines have been pretty nice.. I, and I am sure many others would have been very sad. Number 1- Hoover's name would be gone as we know it completely. I love the Hoover Windtunnel Air, that was a very nice design, and there is a lot of other machines that I do like. I am not trying to start up a fight or anything, I am just saying.

Post# 116692 , Reply# 15   12/2/2010 at 14:20 (4,865 days old) by DysonAnimal ()        

I agree, Chase - some of the TTI Hoovers have been decent cleaners, and the company continues to enjoy strong sales and brand recognition. The last Maytag-Hoover, aside from the new Constellation, was the Z - creative and ambitious, but impractical, and a massive sales flop.

The current reality may not have been the scenario 'Boss' Hoover imagined for his company, but his family were still firmly in control when he died, and I'm sure he didn't foresee the series of bad decisions over the following decades which would lead to them losing control, and to Hoover's European Division being sold off.

The last chapter of The Fabulous Dustpan has some great words on the need for businesses to adapt and to move with the times. Might be worth re-reading!


Post# 116696 , Reply# 16   12/2/2010 at 15:50 (4,865 days old) by Ohio_Tuec ()        

Perhaps you could paraphrase some of it here for those of us not fortunate enough to own a copy....

Post# 116743 , Reply# 17   12/3/2010 at 00:08 (4,865 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)        
TTI is not all that bad....

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They recently restructured their system and they take very good care of their dealers. One of their latest creations is keeping the junk lines at junk stores (big box stores) and keeping decent stuff in dealer protected showrooms. The warranties are taken care of in a reasonable amount of time. Their cheaper products live up to their cheaper price, their more expensive products live up to their more expensive price tag.

Most people who hate TTI aren't even dealers and have no clue how they work, they simply are just stuck in time periods decades ago. While it is great to appreciate long-term appliances, great manufacturing, excellent construction and reliability- we do have to move along with the times, just as Jack and Chase have already said.

The latest Hoovers and Royals are still decent machines. They live up to expectations- and peoples' expectations of appliances are much less than they were decades ago.


Post# 116757 , Reply# 18   12/3/2010 at 06:05 (4,865 days old) by eurekaprince (Montreal, Canada)        

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This reminds me of how sad I am at the disappearance of my beloved Eureka Williams Company. The last time I saw the name "Eureka" put on a vac of decent quality was when Sweden's Electrolux slapped the name on North America's 110-volt version of the Oxygen canisters (beautiful colours, by the way). The only way I can actually see "Eureka" anymore is through the Sanitaire line of uprights. I sometimes imagine what all those new high quality Electrolux's (e.g. the new "ultra one") would look like with the old Eureka logo on them!

It's interesting that Electrolux chose Hungary as their preferred factory location!


Post# 116760 , Reply# 19   12/3/2010 at 08:54 (4,864 days old) by Ohio_Tuec ()        

"Peoples' expectations of appliances are much less than they were decades ago."

Because, except for a handful of manufacturers everything today is made of poor quality. Appliances, automobiles, electronics and everything else is made to be disposable, and I for one think it's disgraceful. We live in a throw-away society and "sheeple" just go along with it. This is all thanks to the China free trade agreement.
It's kind of ironic that just before the TTI takeover, Hoover revived one of their best machines - the Constellation. It was wonderful to see a metal machine again. With TTI at the helm, I can foresee plastic bagless crap for years to come....


Post# 116778 , Reply# 20   12/3/2010 at 12:05 (4,864 days old) by scvacuumguy (SC)        

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Couldn't agree with you more Karl! When you combine instant gratification, big box stores, low customer service and consumers with low expectations- this is what you get.

If I had $5 for every customer who says, "We just buy a new vacuum every year or so after this one dies" ...

I do feel there will be a shift in the next 10-15 years back to locally owned businesses selling decent products. Many people want to go "green" and one of our sales techniques capitalizes on that idea. Buying bad vacuum cleaners is a danger to the environment and increases useless landfill waste.

The only inexpensive TTI Product we carry is the T Series bagless and that is at the $89-99 price point. We sell very few of them as we generally use it as an entry level machine to gain a customer. My theory is if a customer walks because they cannot afford a more expensive vacuum, then we have lost that customer for life.

Many companies such as Bissell have designed vacuums for big box stores- bright graphics and colors, novelty attachments that are relatively useless (fold down pet hair felt strips) are among some of the things that you see on display at these stores. There are stickers describing features, etc in a way that the general consumer can walk up to the machine in Wal Mart and read for themselves "why" they should purchase a vacuum. If you look at the progression of machines in the 80's-90's you notice more and more stickers on the machines describing their features. This goes right along with the lack of customer service provided by these big box stores.





Post# 116783 , Reply# 21   12/3/2010 at 13:24 (4,864 days old) by Ohio_Tuec ()        

It really IS a shame what has happened over the last 20-25 years. The vacuum cleaner industry wants you to believe bagless is better. What most people don't realize is when they purchase a cheapie bagless (i.e. Dirt Devil) these vacuums have filters that have to be replaced every six months or year. At $40. a clip, nobody replaces them (they were too cheap to buy bags in the first place) which causes the motor to choke on dust and burn out in a relatively short period of time. That, plus the bulk majority of the new cleaners have 12-amp "gas guzzler motors." Back in the '80's, Hoover's Concept was a powerhouse that drew only 5.6 amps! From its inception, Dirt Devil was always kind of a throw-away machine, I just feel that TTI is gonna make Hoover the same way.

Post# 116793 , Reply# 22   12/3/2010 at 14:32 (4,864 days old) by sireluxomatic ()        
...last one left...

Aerus vacuums are still made in the States, aren't they?

Post# 239080 , Reply# 23   7/5/2013 at 21:37 (3,919 days old) by director12 ()        

Yeah, they still are.


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