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Post# 115385   11/21/2010 at 17:11 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        

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You will have seen the pictures from the last UK meet in the Off Topic forum. I was a bit too busy to take photos at the time but before I put the cleaners back into their storage I thought I would share some pictures of my cleaners which were out on display

Post# 115386 , Reply# 1   11/21/2010 at 17:17 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
I was aiming for some cleaners that are not seen so often

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but there just HAD to be some Hoovers. This is not quite as it was on the weekend as Mike very kindly brought his rare Burgundy Dial A Matic. He did offer to leave it in my temporary care, but I had to decline - I was not sure I could give it back!. So my Concept 1 fills in instead

Post# 115388 , Reply# 2   11/21/2010 at 17:34 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Stairway of Juniors

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"Come my love with me
Take me by the hand
And we soon will be
In a magic land
Heaven waits for those who dare to climb
The stairway of Juniors"

Wait, that's not quite right - oh well ....



Post# 115390 , Reply# 3   11/21/2010 at 17:36 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Lower view

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375, 375, 119, 1124, 1334, 1338

Post# 115391 , Reply# 4   11/21/2010 at 17:40 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Upper view

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1346, 1354, 1012, 1036, 1104, 2206, and a Turbo power Junior. Although I dont really consider this last one as a "proper" Junior but I wanted at least one example of this Junior

Post# 115393 , Reply# 5   11/21/2010 at 17:46 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Old Guard Juniors

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The "traditional" style

Post# 115395 , Reply# 6   11/21/2010 at 17:50 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
In action

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Even the one that is at least 73 years old (at the front). And note that I have paid attention to our own DysonAnimal so that I have not run the cleaners with the handles upright

Post# 115396 , Reply# 7   11/21/2010 at 17:53 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Other side

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I did chuckle a bit for, when the 375 was started I got a load of carbon dust (thinking of a recent thread) but its older sister (370) soon put paid to that, as every trace was removed from the carpet (after this picture was taken!). The 370 is one of my favourites ....

Post# 115397 , Reply# 8   11/21/2010 at 17:57 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
A gaggle of Goblins

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Specially for Doug, from the 1960s and 1970s

Post# 115398 , Reply# 9   11/21/2010 at 18:00 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
555 From the 1970s

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This was very much a budget model, owing a considerable amount of its design to the Lux 91/94 and Hoover Freedom., There should be a name panel around the switch at the rear

Post# 115399 , Reply# 10   11/21/2010 at 18:02 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
It has a "combination" nozzle

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The brush clips off the carpet nozzle

Post# 115400 , Reply# 11   11/21/2010 at 18:03 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
But is is a very small nozzle

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See the comparison

Post# 115401 , Reply# 12   11/21/2010 at 18:07 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
This is a lter version of this cleaner

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As it has cable clips around the handle. These were "badged" by our electricity boards for years, but they seem rare. My thanks to Gary (Electron1100 over on AW.org) for this one. The Cable really is shot, but want to keep it as its original. It would have been competition for the Lux 65/80 & Hoover Harlequin 419/429

Post# 115403 , Reply# 13   11/21/2010 at 18:09 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
It may be badged as a Singer

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But it owes NOTHING to its US cousins

Post# 115404 , Reply# 14   11/21/2010 at 18:12 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Its very much a budget model

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300Watt motor, and no swivel at the handle end. The crevice nozzle is not a funny colour, its still in its original wrapping

Post# 115405 , Reply# 15   11/21/2010 at 18:13 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
No swivel on the nozzle either

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And again - its quite small

Post# 115406 , Reply# 16   11/21/2010 at 18:16 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Narrow hose & tubes

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To compensate for the low wattage motor - an old Goblin trick, This picture ties to show how, the tube for this cleaner easily fits inside the tube of the larger Goblin

Post# 115407 , Reply# 17   11/21/2010 at 18:18 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Goblin TOL

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For many, many years - the 701. Flex is not original

Post# 115408 , Reply# 18   11/21/2010 at 18:19 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
All plastic body

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This machine first appeared around 1966 and was still going in 1979. It would have been up against the Lux 90/100 and later on the Hoover Conquest

Post# 115409 , Reply# 19   11/21/2010 at 18:21 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
I dont know

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If there was supposed to be a filter in here - see blower outlet top right

Post# 115410 , Reply# 20   11/21/2010 at 18:22 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Rear cover in place

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..

Post# 115412 , Reply# 21   11/21/2010 at 18:23 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Suction control

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its just an air valve

Post# 115414 , Reply# 22   11/21/2010 at 18:25 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Top view

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I do quite like the styling, although it was no match for the competition

Post# 115417 , Reply# 23   11/21/2010 at 18:27 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Late 1970s picture

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From a brochure, with a Hardbag "Housemaid"

Post# 115418 , Reply# 24   11/21/2010 at 18:28 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Speaking of Housemaids

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I have a soft bag version

Post# 115419 , Reply# 25   11/21/2010 at 18:29 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Side view

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Al plastic body

Post# 115421 , Reply# 26   11/21/2010 at 18:31 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Brushroll

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Presumably the Hoover patents had expired

Post# 115423 , Reply# 27   11/21/2010 at 18:33 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Hood

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Although I did not think much of this cleaner when it was on sale again, I have modified my opinion since collecting this one

Post# 115424 , Reply# 28   11/21/2010 at 18:34 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Shows the dirt

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you did not know you had

Post# 115425 , Reply# 29   11/21/2010 at 18:35 (4,903 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Thats all for tonight folks

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Hope I have not bored you to death - more pictures to follow
Al


Post# 115466 , Reply# 30   11/21/2010 at 21:01 (4,903 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Hi Al:

Thanks - great to see some of the models I've only read about up till now. LOL - I see there is also a Bylock, Vactric and one of the many made by Siroma Engineering in the background.

Doug


Post# 115468 , Reply# 31   11/21/2010 at 21:03 (4,903 days old) by Collector2 (Moose Jaw, Sk)        

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Oops - scratch that about Siroma - Took a closer look at the picture (red face)

Post# 115475 , Reply# 32   11/21/2010 at 21:33 (4,903 days old) by luxg ()        

Al, what a fantastic collection you have there. How long have you been collecting? Thanks so much for taking the time to share them with us.

Terry


Post# 115476 , Reply# 33   11/21/2010 at 21:34 (4,903 days old) by petek (Ontario)        

Nice and vast collection there Al. Keep it up and you'll need to be building towers of power like Dave with those chrome racks.

Post# 115516 , Reply# 34   11/22/2010 at 04:55 (4,902 days old) by kirbymodel2c (Nottingham, England)        
Hi Alistair....

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Hi Alistair.

Its Nice to see your pictures of your Goblin Housemaid.
I do like the Gobln Housemaid even tho I prefur the Goblin Commander which was the updated version of the Housemaid.

I would like both types of Housemaid at some point.

Where did you get yours from?

James:o)


Post# 115531 , Reply# 35   11/22/2010 at 11:33 (4,902 days old) by joe22 ()        
WOW

i do love the styling of the vintage UK vacs. awesome collection

Post# 115561 , Reply# 36   11/22/2010 at 17:15 (4,902 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Thanks for the kind words guys

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They are much appreciated.

Terry, that is just a part of the collection - I did not even have any of my Seniors (your convertibles) out, and there was hardly an Electrolux to be seen. I have been "officially" collecting for about 9 years although the first in my collection (and incidentally one of the rarest - an Electrolux 116) was bought in 1993. Next up was the 119, rescued by a friend around 1998 or so. Most of my cleaners have come from ebay although some have also come from fellow collectors. I dare not attend "car boot sales" for I fear the house would be FULL of all sorts - its bad enough with the cleaners, mixers and a few other small appliances.

Pete, well I am not quite at the point of my namesake on your side of the pond, but it feels like it is not far off! When I get everything back in place I may share a photo.

James, the Housemaid was something of a bargain, I actually got two for £2.00 (say $3.00), and two brochures thrown in. As I said on my trident thread, sometimes ebay does work out. I passed the other one on several years ago I am afraid.

Al


Post# 115565 , Reply# 37   11/22/2010 at 17:25 (4,902 days old) by petek (Ontario)        
Tfal actifry

Al.. did I see a pic of a Tfal Actifry in your kitchen... what do you think of it... the gadgeteer in me would love one,, not the price though.

Post# 115606 , Reply# 38   11/23/2010 at 03:22 (4,902 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Hand on heart

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Pete, I hardly ever use it. My sister has one which she uses a lot but as I am generally cooking just for me, it is not so good at small quantities. It will cook french fries in about a teaspoonfull of oil, but they are more like oven chips than "proper" fries. It is brilliant for sausages though. I bought mine on sale at a good reduction but I would really recommend anyone to wait until they find one at goodwill for $10 unless they have a large family or like a lot of french fries (and you can start with potatoes for these) and have to watch their fat intake.
Al


Post# 115648 , Reply# 39   11/23/2010 at 14:54 (4,901 days old) by hooverbaby (Dalton in Furness, UK)        
Nice Vac Trick!! or should that be Vactric?

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Al, I especially like your yellow Vactric Junior Upright. Whilst not quite on a par with machines such as the Hoover Junior 370 I don't think I've seen one quite so splendid before, though I do have a similar one somewhere with a maroon bag.

Presumably, the red machine next to it is the relatively rare Morphy Richards upright, which was recently revamped?

Stephen


Post# 115764 , Reply# 40   11/24/2010 at 16:50 (4,900 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Vac-trickery

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Time for some quick photos of the Vactric upright - from the front.

And yes, the TV DOES need dusting!


Post# 115765 , Reply# 41   11/24/2010 at 16:51 (4,900 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Close of the bag graphic

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I rather like this, it betrays the cleaner's origins in the 1930s

Post# 115766 , Reply# 42   11/24/2010 at 16:53 (4,900 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
The business end

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The cleaner is a bit battered from years of use. Height adjustment on the right hand side

Post# 115767 , Reply# 43   11/24/2010 at 16:56 (4,900 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
And round the back

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The flex does not go round the forks (as it would on a Hoover Junior)- but emerges near the bottom of the handle. The Goblin of similar vintage was similar

Post# 115770 , Reply# 44   11/24/2010 at 16:58 (4,900 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
It does owe something of its design

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to the Hoover Junior 370, although it is not so tall (more like the later Juniors without forks and is somewhat lighter

Post# 115771 , Reply# 45   11/24/2010 at 16:59 (4,900 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Switch

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On the front of the handle - rather like that on the Dustette or Hooverette/late Lark

Post# 115772 , Reply# 46   11/24/2010 at 17:02 (4,900 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
In action

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Having had this cleaner for several years, it was only recently that I put a plug on it and powered it up. Worked fine straight off. The bag is shaped at an angle - its not just the angle of the photo

Post# 115773 , Reply# 47   11/24/2010 at 17:04 (4,900 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
And from the side

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No matter how superior later "hard bag" cleaners might be, there is always something special about a well inflated cloth bag

Post# 115774 , Reply# 48   11/24/2010 at 17:07 (4,900 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
No edge cleaning here

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and quite a small cleaning area given the overall footprint, which is a marginally wider the the Junior, but the Junior brush roll and cleaning area are much larger

Post# 115775 , Reply# 49   11/24/2010 at 17:09 (4,900 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
And the brush roll

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Very simple and made of wood - just two spirals of (quite stiff) bristles. It does work quite well though

Post# 115776 , Reply# 50   11/24/2010 at 17:13 (4,900 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
I have only seen one other

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of these in real life - Mike has one as well. But this was the first time one has been seen in action - and I am delighted that it does actually work. The cleaner was produced from 1936 until 1958 apparently largely unaltered. There are more pictures and information on Paul Linell's excellent site (see link) - his is in better condition too.

That's all for tonight folks

Al


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Post# 115797 , Reply# 51   11/24/2010 at 22:18 (4,900 days old) by vintagecanister ()        
What is the

machine on the first picture posted, top shelf, all the way to the right?

It looks quite interesting. Any close-up's for us guys across the pond?


Post# 115810 , Reply# 52   11/25/2010 at 00:44 (4,900 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
That would be the Electrolux 160

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Yes, there will be some more pictures of this one, later in the week

Al


Post# 115852 , Reply# 53   11/25/2010 at 16:36 (4,899 days old) by hooverbaby (Dalton in Furness, UK)        
Thanks for the extra pictures of the Vactric Al!

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I do have one like it in storage and also some of the similar National upright machines with the rectangular front covers.

Mine also worked when I tried them but one of them had a stiff front bearing, which I regreased after stripping the motor down.

Stephen


Post# 115854 , Reply# 54   11/25/2010 at 17:11 (4,899 days old) by Vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
National Utilities

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Now that is interesting Stephen, I had known that Vactric 202/404 cylinder cleaners were badged under the National Utilities brand (and others), indeed I have one and they pop up with surprising regularity on ebay, but I have never seen an NU upright. This one is the only one I have seen on ebay in nine years.

And of course there is the successor model, which appears to owe something to the Hoover 638 that has not been seen either.
Al


Post# 115990 , Reply# 55   11/26/2010 at 22:10 (4,898 days old) by kirby16 ()        

Theres something wrong with your photos; they wont show up.:-\

Post# 115991 , Reply# 56   11/26/2010 at 22:12 (4,898 days old) by kirby16 ()        

Sack that, never mind. Now they do. :(:

Post# 116052 , Reply# 57   11/27/2010 at 12:16 (4,897 days old) by hooverbaby (Dalton in Furness, UK)        
I also have..

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a National upright with a blue bag and a round front cover and only ever saw one of those. I must dig it out sometime, hope it hasn't deteriorated too much in storage..

Stephen


Post# 116152 , Reply# 58   11/28/2010 at 07:21 (4,896 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Link

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Heres the link to the vac pic thread posted in the off-topic forum!!!

CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK


Post# 116153 , Reply# 59   11/28/2010 at 07:24 (4,896 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
From Alistairs Meet...

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In 2008 The Hoover 100th year, heres a few more pics!!!

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Post# 116154 , Reply# 60   11/28/2010 at 07:25 (4,896 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
From The

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Hoover Colourisation Wheel....

Post# 116155 , Reply# 61   11/28/2010 at 07:29 (4,896 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover 417

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Cylinder range...demonstrated by Stephen (Hooverbaby)

Post# 116156 , Reply# 62   11/28/2010 at 07:31 (4,896 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover Minors.....

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The first & second series...

Post# 116157 , Reply# 63   11/28/2010 at 07:32 (4,896 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
Hoover Minors

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...

Post# 116158 , Reply# 64   11/28/2010 at 07:37 (4,896 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill (Birthplace of the Railway),England, UK.)        
The Gang...

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Pick Their favourite vacs...

Post# 116162 , Reply# 65   11/28/2010 at 08:11 (4,896 days old) by hooverbaby (Dalton in Furness, UK)        
Wow!

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Thanks Mike for sending those pictures with me in! I've not seen them before but did check out the ones in the off-topic section last week; it looks as though you all had a great time, even though I wasn't there;)As for the marquee, that was a great idea; you just never know what the weather will do and it makes Al's place look like a stately home lol.

The Junior line ups look great and help and show some of the many variations over the years. I like the one showing the line up of 'coffee can' Hoovers, some of which I brought down 2 years ago.

I'm hoping to get a new camera for Christmas; the mode switch has failed on my old one and I can't seem to get a replacement. Perhaps I'll get organised in the spring and I can post a few line ups of my own stuff.

Hope to catch up with you all later!

Stephen


Post# 236699 , Reply# 66   6/16/2013 at 02:21 (3,966 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Great collections everyone!

"And note that I have paid attention to our own DysonAnimal so that I have not run the cleaners with the handles upright" Why is it a bad thing to run the machine while the handle is upright?

Thanks,

Joe


Post# 236712 , Reply# 67   6/16/2013 at 10:07 (3,965 days old) by hoover119dude (england)        

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hi vacbear58. my fav is your vactric R45. love the bag graphics.

Post# 236713 , Reply# 68   6/16/2013 at 10:18 (3,965 days old) by hoover119dude (england)        

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when you mentioned paul linnell's vactric in this thread he gave that one to me two years ago.

Post# 236719 , Reply# 69   6/16/2013 at 12:18 (3,965 days old) by super-sweeper (KSSRC Refurbishment Center)        
It isn't bad to run them in upright,

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That wouldn't make any sense. In a Dyson, when the cleaner is upright, the suction is diverted from the head the the hose, unless is has something to do with the bursh-roll eating the rug?

 

-Alex.


Post# 236725 , Reply# 70   6/16/2013 at 13:10 (3,965 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Dyson

All the Dyson cleaners I know of take the suction off the cleaning head when stood upright. In newer 01 models and on all of the 03 I think, this was done by sealing off the suction completely, that is to say effectively blocking the airflow. This of course would cause the motor to overheat if left like it for long enough. The early 01 cleaners allowed air to escape from vents in the cleaning head when the machine was stood upright, but this required a valve in the hose socket and the design was so problematic that not only did Dyson stop fitting it, they also took it out of a good deal of cleaners which were sent back to the factory for repair.

On later models from 04 onwards, suction was diverted to the hose when the cleaner was stood up, but as all cleaners had caps over the hole in the wand, the potential was still there for the cleaner to overheat. I have not see the ball-style cleaners in much detail but I have been told that these cleaners allow the suction to carry on through the front of the cleaning head until the hose is removed. To be truthful, I cannot see what the problem was in having the suction running through the cleaner head when the cleaner was stood upright, but Dyson didn't like it, I expect.

However, how this applies to the vintage juniors in the picture, I am not sure.


Post# 236726 , Reply# 71   6/16/2013 at 13:16 (3,965 days old) by vintagerepairer (England)        
Rug munching

All these years have passed and until I read a message on here last week, never once did I hear about the fringes of mats being refereed to as munched, or a cleaner being called a rug-muncher. But I can see where the term comes from, when one considers that the upright cleaners have always been capable of chewing the loose ends of carpets and rugs. This comes down to the brush roller of course, not the suction, which is why a good deal of cleaners are designed so that when the cleaner is upright, the cleaner head is lifted off the floor or the brushes stop turning, so as to not cause damage to carpets when the hose is being used.

Again, I don't see how this relates to the vintage juniors here as all of them would be in contact with the floor at all times, no matter what position the handle was in.


Post# 236727 , Reply# 72   6/16/2013 at 13:17 (3,965 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Thanks for the info Benny. Like you said, how does this affect the Hoover Junior's shown?

Post# 236737 , Reply# 73   6/16/2013 at 14:01 (3,965 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Great Display!!

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I like that idea of lining a staircase with HOOVERS! hmmm. who have thunk???

Post# 236741 , Reply# 74   6/16/2013 at 14:27 (3,965 days old) by garlee (england)        

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Superb collection of vacuums .Love the collection of Hoover Juniors of differing models
Great Stuff


Post# 236752 , Reply# 75   6/16/2013 at 16:16 (3,965 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
Old pictures

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Thanks for all the nice comments on this old thread :)

Gary, is yours the one in this colour scheme or do you have the other version which has a body in similar colour to a Hoover Junior 119 and the burgundy bag?

John, I promise the idea was not stolen from you. It first happened in the first meeting I had in 2007 where there were quite a few Juniors and it was somewhere to put them all, sadly my house is nearly not so large as yours. After that it became a bit of a tradition to have the "stairway of Juniors" although I eventually ran out of stairs - and I don't even have examples of the all!

Now, regarding the comment about using the cleaners with the handles lowered. With all Hoover "bag in the back" cleaners prior to those with disposable bag (which continues the air path beyond the rear of the cleaner) when the handle is in the upright position the bag is held, with some tension, at a sharp right angle to the back of the machine - not only does this restrict the airflow it also puts pressure on this area of the bag and I don't doubt that this is another reason (along with the bag not being emptied every time it is used and the dust rotting the bag) why there are so few original bags around. If you look at every instruction book prior to the 638 you will see that the handle is always lowered when the attachments are in use. Now, I will admit this may not be quite as strong a consideration when using the Junior where the bag is not held under the same tension it seems to me that the same policy is practised, where the handle is lowered when attachments are in use, as shown below.

Al


Post# 236791 , Reply# 76   6/17/2013 at 03:28 (3,965 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Thanks Al, that clears it up. Would this apply to my Hoover Senior 6525E too?

Cheers,

Joe


Post# 236794 , Reply# 77   6/17/2013 at 05:08 (3,965 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London)        
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Joe

The effect on the 6525 would be much less pronounced for it has, as noted above, the bellows assembly which carries the airflow up into the bag. That said, it would be still worth doing for the air, instead of having a 90 degree turn if the handle was upright, would have an easier path (probably less than 45 degrees) if the handle was lowered. And, lets face it, good and all as it is as a carpet cleaner, it needs all the help it can get when tools are attached.

Al


Post# 236797 , Reply# 78   6/17/2013 at 05:50 (3,964 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Thanks Al. Yes, it is a very good carpet cleaner thanks to that beater bar, but in hose mode... Oh dear.

Joe


Post# 236802 , Reply# 79   6/17/2013 at 08:46 (3,964 days old) by garlee (england)        

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Vacbear58 i have the Junior 119 with the brown bag as have managed to get an original bag for this model off Ebay but at a price ! The Hoover juniors that i have in my collection are a 1958 1334 with the metal fan cover as opposed to the plastic one,2 1334A's in the grey and off white colour scheme ,a 1334A in the jonquil and hop green colour scheme ,2 1334E's one with the original bag ,a U1104 and a U1036 .Have been trying to put a pic of them all on here but have been unable to as the camera original digital pic has too many pixels on it as the message comes up when i try to send . hopefully someone will tell me how to send it

Post# 236811 , Reply# 80   6/17/2013 at 10:23 (3,964 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Al!

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I think your staircase of Juniors is beautiful. I simply line the stairs here for mini meets for the same reason. There's a much smaller staircase in the back of the house. There are 10 HOOVER 'Convertibles", your "Seniors' there at all times . This big old house has 11 rooms. There are vacuums EVERYWHERE at any given time.But, when I host a mini/mega meet, I bring out fun machines to see, use. I try to bring out models they others haven't seen at my house before. There's one in the formal dining room all the time. My aunt once asked me ,"Are you going to keep that thing out during dinner"? I replied, "Yes, it makes a nice accent piece in any home, don't you think?" That was the end of THAT discussion. It's nice to see those "Happy Birthday, HOOVER" T-shirts over there on you 2 guys, too. THAT was great fun in Ohio. It was GREAT that ye were able to make it over here.

Post# 236827 , Reply# 81   6/17/2013 at 13:28 (3,964 days old) by dysondestijl (east midlands, UK)        

On dyson DC25's the suction is still going through the cleaner head when the cleaner is upright, it is only when the wand is pulled out does the suction divert.


Post# 236833 , Reply# 82   6/17/2013 at 14:12 (3,964 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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I'd love to see the room you keep all your vacs in George, how on earth do you fit them all in there?!

Joe


Post# 236862 , Reply# 83   6/17/2013 at 14:58 (3,964 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
which one is George?

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I'm missing someone, I think.
John.


Post# 236866 , Reply# 84   6/17/2013 at 15:01 (3,964 days old) by Ultimatevacman ( Leeds, West Yorkshire, UK)        

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John, George is Dysondestijl :)

Joe


Post# 236868 , Reply# 85   6/17/2013 at 15:02 (3,964 days old) by gottahaveahoove (Pittston, Pennsylvania, 18640)        
Ah. ok,

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Thanks.

Post# 242441 , Reply# 86   7/27/2013 at 16:20 (3,924 days old) by hoover119dude (england)        

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hi al. sorry for the delay in answering as i didnt realise you asked a vac question. my R45 is the same as yours. yellow and blue bag. your bag is original mine is an aftermarket replacement. saying that i have seen another design original bag. message me sometime.

Post# 242475 , Reply# 87   7/27/2013 at 19:57 (3,924 days old) by NYCWriter (New York City)        
WHY ...

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... were the British Hoovers so different than the American Hoovers?

It's the same company. Why not make the same identical sweepers?


Post# 242573 , Reply# 88   7/28/2013 at 09:07 (3,923 days old) by hoover119dude (england)        

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hi NYCWriter,

i sometimes wonder that myself. Hoover and Electrolux seemed to have different styles in the different countries.

the hoover junior range never took off in the states but did here. but as americans like things big and large maybe the houses were deemed too big there to warrant a small cleaner.

i lived in florida for 22 years and the houses are much bigger there than they are here. that could be one reason.



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