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Post# 2930-10/23/2006-19:28 ||| HenryDreyfuss (Toledo, Ohio) |
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Hello all! I have a loooooong paper due about appliance industry patent lawsuits over the years, but my knowledge of the subject is slim. So I thought I'd come and ask the experts. The loyalists who have kept up on all the vacuum, washer, blender, mixer, and any other appliance gossip over the years.
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Post# 2933-10/23/2006-19:56 ||| Electrolux1960 (Somewhere in California) |
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Re: Patent Lawsuits:
Hi! Corey, you should also Post on the Appliance Club Site, besides here. In case you don't know the Site Web Address, it is: www.automaticwasher.org
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Post# 2943-10/23/2006-22:29 ||| Swingette (Texas) |
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Corey
ive read that when maytag invented the gyrating agitator action, they failed to secure the proper patents, therefore, everyone copied their innovation. *Fabulous Dustpan*, iirc, covers some of Hoovers patent drama. if anyone can do a report on this topic, you can. |
Post# 2946-10/23/2006-22:53 ||| vac-o-matic (Saint Louis, Mo.) |
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Vac Lawsuits
Corey, Tom Gasko in St. Louis would be a good source for lawsuit info among vac manufacturers. I remember him talking about a Filter Queen-Lewyt lawsuit, and I think Electrolux had issues with Sunbeam, you should check with him, I'm sure he'd be glad to help!
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Post# 2967-10/24/2006-01:34 ||| HooverCelebrity (Milwaukee, WI) |
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Don't forget...
The lawsuit between Air-Way and Hoover... over the paper bag. |
Post# 2971-10/24/2006-05:13 ||| tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Or,how bout the one between HMI-Filter Queen and Lewyt over the filter cone. |
Post# 2972-10/24/2006-06:43 ||| myvacsrock (Adiian Michigan) |
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Don't forget the Hoover Airway lawsite over the brushrolls!!
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Post# 2973-10/24/2006-07:15 ||| vacuumkid3 (Alabama) |
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Oh, here's one!
Well, I thought I heard something about a Royal-Kirby lawsuit. Has anyone noticed how similar they look? I think Royal was suing Kirby for design similarities. Wasn't Royal created first, or is that debateable?
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Post# 2976-10/24/2006-08:15 ||| 74simon (Worthing, England) |
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Hoover versus Dyson
In the 1990s, Dyson launched a lawsuit against Hoover in the UK, after Hoover brought out a cyclonic cleaner (the Vortex) that infringed Dyson's patents. I know that Dyson won, but not too sure of the ins & outs of it.
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Post# 2979-10/24/2006-13:24 ||| HenryDreyfuss (Toledo, Ohio) |
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Very interesting!
Does anyone know when they happened????
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Post# 2981-10/24/2006-14:47 ||| Rocketwarrior (Omaha) |
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How to Search
Corey,
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Post# 2982-10/24/2006-14:50 ||| Rocketwarrior (Omaha) |
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Search String
Corey,
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Post# 3025-10/25/2006-09:14 ||| HenryDreyfuss (Toledo, Ohio) |
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Oh yeah I've been googling research hardcore. I just thought it would be a fun topic to bring up here...and everyone here is so seasoned in vacuum cleaners, so I thought I'd be able to find some fun facts. Just one source of many!
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Post# 3097-10/27/2006-05:53 ||| tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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Wasn't Kirby sueing Bison?I beleive Kirby and Royal are about the same age.both are very old- 80 years companies. |
Post# 3106-10/27/2006-09:10 ||| Bimmer740 (Long Island, New York) |
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Kirby and Bison
I believe there was a law suit between Kirby and Bison. I'm not too sure but I remember Tom G. talking about something. If you ask him, I'm sure he can shed some light on the topic between the two companies.
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Post# 3125-10/27/2006-23:33 ||| compactc9 (Denver, Co) |
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Didn't Kirby sue Roayl over the model that had the belt lifter, with the head that came off like s Kirby's even? |
Post# 3127-10/28/2006-00:55 ||| tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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What model Royal was that had the removable floor nozzle and belt lifter-anyone have one of these machines-would love to see a picture of one.and how well does it work?I thought the lawsuit between Kirby and Bison was what put Bison down-Too bad-Kirby needs the competition!Kirby is the ONLY upright DTD vacuum at this time!If Bison didn't Have so many of Kirby's features-they might be still with us. |
Post# 3154-10/28/2006-23:17 ||| compactc9 (Denver, Co) |
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I have the model 888. I will post a picture when my other computer decides to cooperate. |
Post# 3174-10/29/2006-18:19 ||| Hygiene903 (Galion, OH) |
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Besides the 888, Royal also built one that was sold through Electro-Hygiene and labeled the Galaxie Prestige. I believe the model # was 990. It came out (to my knowledge)in 1977, the year I returned to Electro-Hygiene part-time for a few months. Unfortunately, I don't have one of the machines, but luckily I do still have the sales manual. It was essentially the same as the EH 903 except for the removable nozzle and the color of the handle grip, bag, bumper guards, cord, adjustorite (which was incorporated into the belt lifter on the Galaxie), and attachments being blue instead of red. And we pushed the health talk with the Galaxie just like the Electro-Hygiene, and the Galaxie's hose connector even had a crystal chamber in it!
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Post# 3215-10/30/2006-00:37 ||| tolivac (Greenville,NC) |
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The royal and electro Hygiene machines sounded nice!Didn't know before that they build removable nozzle vacuums.Were these dealer machines or sold DTD? |
Post# 3252-10/31/2006-00:02 ||| Hygiene903 (Galion, OH) |
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Don't know about the Royal, but the Galaxie Prestige was sold mostly DTD, but could be purchased at the store as well. And yes, they were a nice machine. Powerful, easy to handle, durable attachments, and a reasonable price.
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Post# 3261-10/31/2006-10:23 ||| dysonman (park hills, missouri) |
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Lawsuits throughout Vac History
The first vacuum cleaner lawsuit was filed by David Kenney against all vacuum cleaner manufacturers that used a suction nozzle. Hoover was one of those companies. Hoover decided to aquire a patent directly from Kenney, but none were available. So they bought the Palm Vacuum Cleaner Manufacturing Company, who owned the right to use the Kenney patent, and they were in business. You'll notice all vacuum cleaners (Royal, Hoover, etc.) until 1921, had the phrase "licensed under Kenny patent" on the nameplate.
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Post# 3297-10/31/2006-21:50 ||| Swingette (Texas) |
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very, very nice, tom. i have to applaud Hoover, for developing the agitator with beater bars for debut at the expiration of the brushroll patents. i hope the guy who developed Hoovers agitator got a big fat bonus. i think most experts would agree with me when i say that Hoover owes its success to their agitator. |
Post# 3302-10/31/2006-22:23 ||| Hygiene903 (Galion, OH) |
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Thank you Tom, for a very informative and interesting post. I had never heard of David Kenney before, or the Palm Vacuum Cleaner Co.
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Post# 3318-11/1/2006-09:09 ||| HenryDreyfuss (Toledo, Ohio) |
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Thanks Tom! That was wonderfully informative! Thank you so much!
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Post# 3426-11/2/2006-09:42 ||| dysonman (park hills, missouri) |
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Jeff:
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Post# 3433-11/2/2006-10:41 ||| ahzeks (Bozeman, MT) |
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That's very interesting!
Dysonman,
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Post# 3441-11/2/2006-14:14 ||| dysonman (park hills, missouri) |
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Hoover 541 used a converter that covered the entire fan opening. One would remove the belt pulley cover, and replace it with the 'converter'. This was to allow for more suction from the 1.8 amp motor. Hoover would use this same type of attachment converter until the launch of model 150 in 1936, the first side conversion machine. With the launch of 'Convertible 65' in 1958, Hoover went with the rear-mount attachment converter, then, with Decade 80, went back to the front mount that they used at the very begining. They would use this for Concept and the first Elite. Then, on-board tools like they have today. |
Post# 3554-11/6/2006-08:21 ||| vintagehoover (Surrey, England) |
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Follow the link below to see a selection of vintage Hoover tool convertors. The picture below shows the Model O's tools in use. CLICK HERE TO GO TO vintagehoover's LINK![]() |
Post# 3555-11/6/2006-08:22 ||| vintagehoover (Surrey, England) |
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Interestingly, the original patent for the Model O did not show the pan-type convertor, but some sort of port on the top of the chassis to attatch the hose to... ![]() |
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Thanks for sharing the photos!
Jack,
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